Hindus calling their dead hindu soldiers in Kashmir "shaheed" - Do you want to stop?

[Jackdaws]

All hindus ultimate ancestors were Muslims and believed in oneness of ALLAH ALMIGHTY and not worshiped idols but later satan has moved them to wrong path and they forget their true religion of Islam all hindus should return back to Islam and abondon hindu religion and idol worshipping if they want to succeed in their life and end unrest in this region

LOL.

 

[graphican]

for us Urdu . farsi and arabic speakers. but indians speak hindi. hindus or other groups they have no idea about what we are talking about. they just know shaheed and jihad from terrorist point of view.

That is where Indians are freaking hilarious. They think they are fighting against terrorist in Kashmir but when they die defending "honour of India", they become terrorist themselves?

Stupids.

If Indians want to call themselves "Shaheed", in anger and frustration, why not they start calling themselves as "Muslims" too?

 

[Jackdaws]

That is where Indians are freaking hilarious. They think they are fighting against terrorist in Kashmir but when they die defending "honour of India", they become terrorist themselves?

Stupids.

If Indians want to call themselves "Shaheed", in anger and frustration, why not they start calling themselves as "Muslims" too?

Yawn. Because to Indians "Shaheed" is not an Islamic term. Bhagat Singh has been known as Shaheed Bhagat Singh since the 1930s - and he was an atheist.

 

[Foxtrot Delta]

That is where Indians are freaking hilarious. They think they are fighting against terrorist in Kashmir but when they die defending "honour of India", they become terrorist themselves?

Stupids.

If Indians want to call themselves "Shaheed", in anger and frustration, why not they start calling themselves as "Muslims" too?

you are missing the point here. they dont see shaheed in religious terms they just use it as a word for martyr. death of honor to protect the homeland or death of honor doing something honorable like taking care of ur family , country people etc.

Hindus are human beings too. they have feelings. they just don't use shaheed in the same way we do. to Us Shaheed means something else and for them a little nerfed down smaller version but sounds the same

they use it in Hindi concept not urdu or arabic concept. they have been using it for a thousand year now. they and us were same people once upon a time...

 

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Yawn. Because to Indians "Shaheed" is not an Islamic term. Bhagat Singh has been known as Shaheed Bhagat Singh since the 1930s - and he was an atheist.

Calling Mahatma Gandhi "Shaheed" will not work either. Its not who you call shaheed, it's a matter "if you can call any non-Muslim shaheed". Practically you cannot - unless you are lousy non-believers of Islam who were helpless but to pick "Islam's medal of honour" as your own.

you are missing the point here. they dont see shaheed in religious terms they just use it as a word for martyr. death of honor to protect the homeland or death of honor doing something honorable like taking care of ur family , country people etc.

Hindus are human beings too. they have feelings. they just don't use shaheed in the same way we do. to Us Shaheed means something else and for them a little nerfed down smaller version but sounds the same

they use it in Hindi concept not urdu or arabic concept. they have been using it for a thousand year now. they and us were same people once upon a time...

• Why not just start calling them "Haji", "Momin" and "Muslim" on the same "non-relegious" grounds - No.
• Shaheed is an Islamic word. It's not even general arabic as Kuffar who died fighting Muslim never used it to describe their dead ones.
• Hinduism has "Sunsikrat" as its mother language, not "Ebrani" or "Arabic". Shaheed is not a word they knew before Islam entered Hindustan.
• Death of honour is "martyr" which means death of honour for your country, tribe or society. It doesn't have religious designation. They can use it without issues.

Don't bring "human being too" $hit here. Its not related to "human being" and "humanitarian" aspects. We are discussing Medal of Honour used by Muslim being copied by Hindus whoa re non-Muslims. Muslim or non-Muslim, every human being is respected - but this is not a matter of respect.

 

[Foxtrot Delta]

Calling Mahatma Gandhi "Shaheed" will not work either. Its not who you call shaheed, it's a matter "if you can call any non-Muslim shaheed". Practically you cannot - unless you are lousy non-believers of Islam who were helpless but to pick "Islam's medal of honour" as your own.

• Why not just start calling them "Haji", "Momin" and "Muslim" on the same "non-relegious" grounds - No.
• Shaheed is an Islamic word. It's not even general arabic as Kuffar who died fighting Muslim never used it to describe their dead ones.
• Hinduism has "Sunsikrat" as its mother language, not "Ebrani" or "Arabic". Shaheed is not a word they knew before Islam entered Hindustan.
• Death of honour is "martyr" which means death of honour for your country, tribe or society. It doesn't have religious designation. They can use it without issues.

Don't bring "human being too" $hit here. Its not related to "human being" and "humanitarian" aspects. We are discussing Medal of Honour used by Muslim being copied by Hindus whoa re non-Muslims. Muslim or non-Muslim, every human being is respected - but this is not a matter of respect.

they have so many influence from us muslims for many years in the past and they have not words but festivals and other things similar to us. just like we have alot of stuff from them. anyways i do agree Shaheed for us is soemthing different and for them its a smaller thing.

 

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they have so many influence from us muslims for many years in the past and they have not words but festivals and other things similar to us. just like we have alot of stuff from them. anyways i do agree Shaheed for us is soemthing different and for them its a smaller thing.

Eating biryani, dahi-pakoray and using our religious military award which we use against them are equal to you? Think from their point of view, they are anti-Islam and devoted Hindus when they fight against Muslims, and then suddenly they become "Best Muslims" when they are dead?

 

[Foxtrot Delta]

Eating biryani, dahi-pakoray and using our religious military award which we use against them are equal to you? Think from their point of view, they are anti-Islam and devoted Hindus when they fight against Muslims, and then suddenly they become "Best Muslims" when they are dead?

they don't claim or think what u just said. they use it in a different sense. just take a breath lol and think about what i just said, they don't have any idea what you and i mean when we say Shaheed. to them its martyr nothing more nothing less.

they don't claim anything from quran. anyways talk to them they might be able to explain it better than i can. this is not as hard to understand as u have made it to be LOL. its simple LINGUISTICS.

 

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they don't claim or think what u just said. they use it in a different sense. just take a breath lol and think about what i just said, they don't have any idea what you and i mean when we say Shaheed. to them its martyr nothing more nothing less.

they don't claim anything from quran. anyways talk to them they might be able to explain it better than i can. this is not as hard to understand as u have made it to be LOL. its simple LINGUISTICS.

Here you are missing the basics. Shaheed is an ISLAMIC WORD - its not an Arabic word used by any other Non-Muslim Arab Nation. Bring evidence of it being of "Shaheed" being "linguistic adoption" in Hinduism that you are basing your argument on. Generalised statements are not going to back your point. But one more time, and for the benefit of some Hindus as well, read the following.

Shaheed is NOT a linguistic adoption in Hinduism

• Shaheed is a Muslim word having specific meanings.
• Its not an arabic noun. Non-Muslim Arabs don't use word "Shaheed" to describe their martyed as they know what does shaheed mean.
• Not every dead Muslim is a shaheed - thus muslims do not use "shaheed" for every dead person even.
  
• Shaheed dosn't mean "witnessing" but "witnessing one-ness of Allah Subhan wa Taela"
• Hindusm (a polylithic) religon is an opposing concept to Islam (a monolithic religion). Islam and Hindusim have a history of being an enemy of each other and fighting against each other. Never in the history Hindus used "Shaheed" to describe their dead soldiers against Islam.
• Recent adoption of word "Shaheed" by Hindus is stupid - and lacks reasoning other than a "unhelpful adoption".
• No other Muslim concept is adopted by Hindus, like Haj, Nimaz, Roza, Zoukat or Qurbani. Their insistence of using "Shaheed" for their dead soldiers who got killed fighting against Muslims is flat stupid.

If you dis-agree, which I think you will as you have resisted learning thus far, try to being some evidence of your claims. And if you have researched and failed to find evidence of what you are saying then try to learn what I am saying. You will end up improving both ways.

 

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Pakistanis are cute. Instead of condemning a terror attack they celebrate it.

They have the gall to condemn the use of a word instead of a dastardly attack.

And this is NOT the first time this has happened. See similar threads and there was one more thread that had hundreds of post against the use of a word and not the terrorist act

Should they word be "reincarnated" instead of "Shaheed"???

 

[Pakistansdefender]

Don't they have an Hindi word for it..
Shaheed is not only urdu but purely Islamic and Arabic term.

 

[Sabretooth]

This thread turned out to be more exiting than I could have imagined.

 

[Cookie Monster]

Teri kyun jal rahi hai? It is our choice to use whatever word we want.

Do you have a copyright on that word? Unlike a Pakistani we don't consider words to be religious.

He is just pointing out the hypocrisy. Remember how Indians were all up in arms bcuz Justin Trudeau tweeted "Diwali Mubarak"...all the Indians were hounding him that it's "Shubh Diwali" or "Happy Diwali". So clearly ur argument that "unlike a Pakistani we don't consider words to be religious", falls flat on its face.

If an Arabic word like "Mubarak" was so unacceptable...and u guys were so narrow minded that instead of looking at the meaning and intention, u(Indians) chose to display ur xenophobia...then why use "Shaheed"? Go find a Hindi or English word. He is just showing the mirror...there's no need for u to jump up and down

 

[Clutch]

The correct title of the Kashmir occupation army incident should be...n

24 Indian Army personnel Reincarnated in a Kashmiri insurgent rebel freedom fighter attack!

 

[Great Janjua]

Lol. Says someone whose national language is from Central India. Whose founding father is from Gujarat, India. Who dance to Indian tunes all the time. Irony just died.

Who the **** dances to Indian tunes I only dance to allah dita lonay walla.....