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Who will understand..whose religion starts and ends in a book...and you can't question the book ..you will be called blasfemous....????Better don't discuss our great religion here in allien forum..
 
Still doesn't disprove me. This is a conversation with Arjuna. If Krishna said, anyone can worship me with a fruit or flower or nothing, I will accept anything if the intention of the prayer is pure. By I Krishna means the parabrahma, not just Krishna. That is, Krishna is parabrahma.

Read sloka 16 - 25. Explains it clearly.

you have not addressed the points I raised e.g why is BG classified as a prasthana trayam (and also as hindus holy book) ?

Krishna = Parabrahma , please provide the authoritative evidence

BG chapter 9 verse 25 (Visistadvaita school)

yānti deva-vratā devān
pitṝn yānti pitṛ-vratāḥ
bhūtāni yānti bhūtejyā
yānti mad-yājino ’pi mām

(Visistadvaita) Worshipers of the demigods go to the demigods, worshipers of the ancestors go to the ancestors, worshipers of ghosts and spirits go to ghost and spirits and My worshipers certainly come to Me.

http://www.bhagavad-gita.org/Gita/verse-09-25.html

(Gaudiya school)

Translation of Bhagavad Gita 9.25

Those who worship the demigods will take birth among the demigods; those who worship the ancestors go to the ancestors; those who worship ghosts and spirits will take birth among such beings; and those who worship Me will live with Me.

Commentary by Sri A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada of Gaudiya Sampradaya:

If one has any desire to go to the moon, the sun or any other planet, one can attain the desired destination by following specific Vedic principles recommended for that purpose, such as the process technically known as darsa-paurnamasi. These are vividly described in the fruitive activities portion of the Vedas, which recommends a specific worship of demigods situated on different heavenly planets. Similarly, one can attain the Pita planets by performing a specific yajna. Similarly, one can go to many ghostly planets and become a Yaksha, Raksha or Pishaca. Pishaca worship is called “black arts” or “black magic.” There are many men who practice this black art, and they think that it is spiritualism, but such activities are completely materialistic. Similarly, a pure devotee, who worships the Supreme Personality of Godhead only, achieves the planets of Vaikuntha and Krishnaloka without a doubt. It is very easy to understand through this important verse that if by simply worshiping the demigods one can achieve the heavenly planets, or by worshiping the Pitas achieve the Pita planets, or by practicing the black arts achieve the ghostly planets, why can the pure devotee not achieve the planet of Krishna or Vishnu? Unfortunately many people have no information of these sublime planets where Krishna and Vishnu live, and because they do not know of them they fall down. Even the impersonalists fall down from the brahmajyoti. The Krishna consciousness movement is therefore distributing sublime information to the entire human society to the effect that by simply chanting the Hare Krishna mantra one can become perfect in this life and go back home, back to Godhead.

https://www.bhagavad-gita.us/bhagavad-gita-9-25/

BG Chapter 9 verse 25 , refutes yours and Fawley claims

1) BG message was not exclusively meant for Arjuna only (i.e My worshipers)
2) BG supports the idea of paradise /heaven (see highlighted text) , forgiveness from sin and negation of karma to Krishna devotee (show me a verse from BG which states devotee must face their karma ??)

the story of Ajamila, further prooves hindu god's partiality i.e no karma or hell, a sinner goes direct to paradise/heaven

The Story of Ajamila
http://www.yogamag.net/archives/2004/fdec04/ajamila.shtml


Again, these are for Arjuna, it doesn't mean if you do all sorts of bad things and worship Krishna, you'll not face any punishments. In fact, Arjuna faced punishment for believing he is the best and had a pride in it.
Please, don't quote things you have no idea of.

BG chapter verse 25, chapt 18 verse 66 and Ajamila story should debunk your hell / karma baloney

"and regarding other Pandavas and Karna, they were not present in heaven immediately, but had gone to hell. Messengers from heaven lead Yudhisthira to hell through an inauspicious path where he heard them screaming:

"Thus addressed, they answered him from all sides, saying, ‘I am Karna!’ ‘I am Bhimasena!’ ‘I am Arjuna!’ ‘I am Nakula!’ ‘I am Sahadeva!’ ‘I am Dhrishtadyumna!’ ‘I am Draupadi!’ ‘We are the sons of Draupadi!’ Even thus, O king, did those voices speak.

But, if you are wondering why Pandavas went to hell, then it was just an illusion by Yama to test Yudhisthira and deceive him as he had deceived Drona about his son:

O son of Pritha, thy brothers, O king, were not such as to deserve Hell. All this has been an illusion created by the chief of the gods.

O king, that desirous of doing thee good, I caused thee to be sent for having a view of Hell. Thou hadst, by a pretence, deceived Drona in the matter of his son. Thou hast, in consequence thereof, been shown Hell by an act of deception. After the manner of thyself, Bhima and Arjuna, and Draupadi, have all been shown the place of sinners by an act of deception. Come, O chief of men, all of them have been cleansed of their sins. All those kings who had aided thee and who have been slain in battle, have all attained to Heaven."


https://hinduism.stackexchange.com/...yodhana-and-the-pandavas-go-after-their-death
 
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you have not addressed the points I raised e.g why is BG classified as a prasthana trayam (and also as hindus holy book) ?
There is no Holy book one must follow in Hinduism. A man can believe in nothing and do his duty then die and reach heaven or hell based on his Karma. One can even believe there is no heaven and hell and do good or bad.

Krishna = Parabrahma , please provide the authoritative evidence
hahaha there is no evidence, Krishna is a person of the past. You ask me for evidence on what? Even I'm para-brahma, you're parabrahma.
If you have known Vedanta before replying to me you must have known one important point. तत्त्वमसि (that thou art)

Copy pasting a lot of Gita will not help you make a point against me. I have already read all that, all these are the conversation from Krishna to Arjuna. For those who worship Krishna can trust his words, live like how he asked and attain moksha.

But, if you are wondering why Pandavas went to hell, then it was just an illusion by Yama to test Yudhisthira and deceive him as he had deceived Drona about his son:
LOL! Your own comments explain it. The only Mistake Yudhistira did in his lifetime was to say one simple lie. That's why he was made to see the sufferings of his brothers.

Clearly explained "Draupadi is the first person to die. Bhima asks Yudhishthira why Draupadi died early and couldn't continue the journey to heaven. Yudhishthira claims that Draupadi suffered from the vice of partiality, in her affections for Arjuna."


 
There is no Holy book one must follow in Hinduism. A man can believe in nothing and do his duty then die and reach heaven or hell based on his Karma. One can even believe there is no heaven and hell and do good or bad.

I have debunked Fawley's false propaganda that Hinduism doesnt promise paradise, offers forgiveness for sin etc by quoting the B G which is a prasthana trayam i.e canonical scriptures accepted by the vedantic schools.

BG is a one of the Hindu holy books

http://www.hinduismfacts.org/hindu-scriptures-and-holy-books/

hahaha there is no evidence, Krishna is a person of the past. You ask me for evidence on what? Even I'm para-brahma, you're parabrahma.
If you have known Vedanta before replying to me you must have known one important point. तत्त्वमसि (that thou art)

do you even know the basic difference between brahman and para brahman ?

Brahman (not to be confused with the deity Brahmā) is seen as a Cosmic Spirit. The personality behind Brahman is known as Parabrahman (The superior Brahman).

http://veda.wikidot.com/brahman

Atat Tvam Asi (thou art not that )

https://sites.google.com/site/aktbfkollam/madhwacharya/atat-tvam-asi-of-sri-madhva

Copy pasting a lot of Gita will not help you make a point against me. I have already read all that, all these are the conversation from Krishna to Arjuna. For those who worship Krishna can trust his words, live like how he asked and attain moksha.


LOL! Your own comments explain it. The only Mistake Yudhistira did in his lifetime was to say one simple lie. That's why he was made to see the sufferings of his brothers.

Clearly explained "Draupadi is the first person to die. Bhima asks Yudhishthira why Draupadi died early and couldn't continue the journey to heaven. Yudhishthira claims that Draupadi suffered from the vice of partiality, in her affections for Arjuna."

I just gave you an e.g from the vaisnavism sect view that debunks Fawley's false claims on karma, paradise and forgiveness

did you read - it was an illusion , pandavas were never in hell refer mahabharata - maha prasthanika parva

"Shakra said, ‘Thou shalt behold thy brothers in Heaven. They have reached it before thee. Indeed, thou shalt see all of them there, with Krishna. Do not yield to grief, O chief of the Bharatas. Having cast off their human bodies they have gone there, O chief of Bharata’s race. As regards thee, it is ordained that thou shalt go thither in this very body of thine.’

if Arjuna was in hell , then its for him to ponder verse - BG chapt 18 : 66 (either he lacked faith or Krishna lied)

Abandon all dharma and surrender unto Me. I shall deliver you from all sinful reaction. Do not fear.
 
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