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Hinduism Respects women rights by Burning her Alive.
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Many would argue human rights abuses in Muslim countries , sometimes we see a girl being whipped , being beaten , The videos rock the world , TV , Radio , Internet , Papers.
Voices are raised against Muslim women wearing Hijab , French president speaks out , all west gets together.....
But a practice no one likes to mention is being carried out in so called " world's largest democracy" India for centuries!
"Sati" a ritual in a Hindu women must be Burnt alive after the death of her Husband , if not she can be beaten to death , or she may live Unmarried forever!
World does not see this as a human abuse because its not " Muslims " who do so .
Video is an on air CNN broadcast , watch patiently and discuss...
Avoid trolling....
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You just read the comments below the video and blindly posted it here....
It shows a women being beaten.....not killed.....and don't you have similar instances in Pakistan...
Video: radicals beat girl, 17, in Islamic stronghold of Swat, Pakistan:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article6022878.ece
But you simply wanted toinitiate an Hindu India bashing thread....
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Click on the Video , go to Youtube website Read the description , its the answer to your question
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Why should I leave the discussion ?? Even don't you that your post was ironic ??
Apart from isolated incidents (one in a decade ?) its not practiced here any more ! And its illegal according to the SATI PREVENTION ACT OF 1987
The video uplpoaded by Some one called bangbangkhan......clearly indicates where the video came from and what was the purpose of the video....
And by the way.......the person uploading the video "Mr bangbangkhan.....must have been and ingenious as he could figure out that the women was being beaten because she refused to become sati....because the video never reveals something like that.....
I. What is Sati?
Hindu custom in India in which the widow was burnt to death on her husbands pyre.
Can be a voluntary choice or force upon a woman by her in-laws.
II. Reasons for Sati
A widow's status was looked upon as an unwanted burden that prevented her from participating in the household work. Her touch, her voice, her very appearance was considered unholy, impure and something that was to be shunned and abhorred.
A woman was considered pure if she committed Sati.
III. The History Behind Sati
Sati, the wife of Daksha, was so overcome at the demise of her husband that she immolated herself on his funeral pyre.
Sati was the consort of Lord Shiva. She burnt herself in fire as protest against her father, Daksha did not give her consort Shiva the respect she thought he deserved.
IV. Theories of Origin
Even though Sati is considered an Indian custom or a Hindu custom it was not practiced all over India by all Hindus but only among certain communities of India.
Sacrificing the widow in her dead husband's funeral or pyre was not unique only to India. This custom was prevalent among Egyptians, Greek, Goths, and others.
Ramayana- Sita walks through fire to prove her purity.
Mahabharata- Madri throws herself on her husband, Pandus fire.
V. Outside Views Impact
A few rulers of India like the Mughals, tried to ban this custom.
Italian Traveler Pietro Della Valle (1586-1652) has documented the Sati ritual that he witnessed in the town of Ikkeri in November of 1623.
Colonel William. H. Sleeman (1809 - 1856 A.D.) served as the collector of Jabalpur.
VI. Sati in the Modern times
In general, before this custom was outlawed in 1829, there were a few hundred officially recorded incidences each year.
The efforts of Raja Rammohan Roy and other Hindu reformers greatly impacted the movement to outlaw this practice.
Even after the custom was outlawed, this custom did not vanish completely. It took few decades before this custom almost vanished
In 1987 an eighteen years old widow, Roop Kanwar, committed Sati in a village of Rajasthan
The 'Sati' version is that Roop told her father-in-law she wanted to commit Sati.
Roop was forced to commit Sati.
The case went to court, but no one was charged with her murder.
Even in the year 2000, you hear about Sati occurring in rural villages.
Sati in India, Sati - the Burning of The Widow bride
Hindu custom in India in which the widow was burnt to death on her husbands pyre.
Can be a voluntary choice or force upon a woman by her in-laws.
II. Reasons for Sati
A widow's status was looked upon as an unwanted burden that prevented her from participating in the household work. Her touch, her voice, her very appearance was considered unholy, impure and something that was to be shunned and abhorred.
A woman was considered pure if she committed Sati.
III. The History Behind Sati
Sati, the wife of Daksha, was so overcome at the demise of her husband that she immolated herself on his funeral pyre.
Sati was the consort of Lord Shiva. She burnt herself in fire as protest against her father, Daksha did not give her consort Shiva the respect she thought he deserved.
IV. Theories of Origin
Even though Sati is considered an Indian custom or a Hindu custom it was not practiced all over India by all Hindus but only among certain communities of India.
Sacrificing the widow in her dead husband's funeral or pyre was not unique only to India. This custom was prevalent among Egyptians, Greek, Goths, and others.
Ramayana- Sita walks through fire to prove her purity.
Mahabharata- Madri throws herself on her husband, Pandus fire.
V. Outside Views Impact
A few rulers of India like the Mughals, tried to ban this custom.
Italian Traveler Pietro Della Valle (1586-1652) has documented the Sati ritual that he witnessed in the town of Ikkeri in November of 1623.
Colonel William. H. Sleeman (1809 - 1856 A.D.) served as the collector of Jabalpur.
VI. Sati in the Modern times
In general, before this custom was outlawed in 1829, there were a few hundred officially recorded incidences each year.
The efforts of Raja Rammohan Roy and other Hindu reformers greatly impacted the movement to outlaw this practice.
Even after the custom was outlawed, this custom did not vanish completely. It took few decades before this custom almost vanished
In 1987 an eighteen years old widow, Roop Kanwar, committed Sati in a village of Rajasthan
The 'Sati' version is that Roop told her father-in-law she wanted to commit Sati.
Roop was forced to commit Sati.
The case went to court, but no one was charged with her murder.
Even in the year 2000, you hear about Sati occurring in rural villages.
Sati in India, Sati - the Burning of The Widow bride
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I dune i am gratefull for your kind info , this is what one would need on something IRONIC!!
Indian members are getting offended for some unknown reason , none of them have tried to explain it !
They are doing what they are here to do , thanks again....
Indian members are getting offended for some unknown reason , none of them have tried to explain it !
They are doing what they are here to do , thanks again....
Sati glorification: Crime, society and the wheels of injustice
By Rakesh Shukla
Despite protests both within Rajasthan and across the country, no appeal has been filed against the recent acquittal of those accused of glorifying sati, following the death of Roop Kanwar on her husband's funeral pyre back in 1987
On March 3, 2004, women's groups including the Rajasthan University Women's Association, Sathin Karmachari Sangh and the National Federation of Indian Women, under the banner of Mahila Atyachar Virodhi Jan Andolan, staged a march in Jaipur protesting the acquittal, on January 31, of all the accused in four criminal cases of glorification of sati, which was abolished in 1829 by Lord Bentinck. The accused include, among others, a former minister, a former IAS officer, an advocate and the president of the Rajput Maha Sabha.
The cases go back to Deorala 1987, and have a chequered career. The Rajasthan High Court quashed the chargesheets in December 1987 itself! The Supreme Court finally reversed the high court judgement and sent the cases back for trial in January 2003.
On September 4, 1987 in Deorala, a nondescript village in Rajasthan, 18-year-old Roop Kanwar burned to death on the pyre of her husband Maal Singh. Dressed in bridal finery, Roop Kanwar walked at the head of the funeral procession to the centre of the village and ascended the pyre. The family lit the pyre fully aware that she was sitting on it, alive, with hundreds of onlookers watching the proceedings. In fact, relatives even fed a thousand people in honour of 'Sati Mata'.
Based on a petition by women activists the Rajasthan High Court, on September 14, 1987, ordered the state government to prevent a function glorifying sati from taking place on the 13th day of Roop Kanwar's death. The ceremony was nevertheless held with much fanfare. A festive 'chunari', taken round in procession, draped over a trishul to resemble the form of a woman, was set ablaze in the presence of VIPs, politicians, legislators and thousands of people. Cries of " Sati Mata ki jai ," " Jab tak suraj-chand rahega, Roop Kanwar tera naam rahega " ("As long as the sun and the moon exist, Roop Kanwar will be remembered") rent the air.
Pressure from women's groups led to the promulgation of the Rajasthan Sati (Prevention) Ordinance, 1987, on October 1, 1987, prohibiting the glorification of sati. The Sati Dharma Suraksha Samiti dropped 'Sati' from its name and organised a massive rally, mid-October, in Jaipur. People carried naked swords and shouted slogans in favour of sati and Roop Kanwar. Similar rallies were organised in the districts of Alwar and Sikar. Under the ordinance, 22 criminal cases pertaining to these rallies were filed for 'glorification of sati'.
On October 11, 1996, the additional district and sessions judge at Neem-ka-Thana in Rajasthan pronounced all 32 accused, including Roop Kanwar's father-in-law, 'not guilty' with regard to the immolation. They were acquitted.
The main reason for their acquittal was stated to be the absence of eyewitnesses to the immolation, which took place in the presence of hundreds of onlookers. In fact, the court declared that the prosecution had not been able to prove that Roop Kanwar was alive when she sat on the pyre and was burnt to death!
The court's finding brings us to the acquittal, on January 31, 2004, of all the accused including former minister and vice-president of the state's BJP Rajendra Singh Rathore, former Bharatiya Yuva Morcha president and nephew of vice-president Bhairon Singh Shekhawat, Pratap Singh Khachariawas, president of the Rajput Maha Sabha, Narendra Singh Rajawat, former IAS officer Onkar Singh and advocate Ram Singh Manohar in four of the criminal cases under the 1987 ordinance.
Under the ordinance, 'sati' constitutes the burning or burying alive of any widow along with the body of her deceased husband or with any article, object or thing associated with the husband, irrespective of whether such burning or burying is voluntary on the part of the widow or otherwise.
Glorification has been defined under section 2(b) of the ordinance. The first limb of the provision defines 'glorification' as including the observance of any ceremony or the taking out of a procession in connection with sati. Interposing 'or', the second limb declares the creation of a trust, collection of funds, construction of a temple or the performance of any ceremony thereat with a view to perpetuating the honour of, or to preserve the memory of a widow committing sati as glorification.
The court, duty-bound to apply the definition of sati as laid down in the law, instead declares that 'sati' means a "woman being virtuous, having strong character, completely devoted towards her husband and having a relationship with only one man during her whole life". Applying this subjective meaning, betraying a patriarchal mindset, the judgement refers to Sita and Anusuya as 'satis' and observes that the invocation of their name would obviously not make a person guilty of sati glorification.
The provision is then interpreted to mean that the observance of any ceremony or the taking out of a procession must also be in relation to a particular incident for the act to be punishable. Carrying this twisted logic further, the court rules that as the Roop Kanwar incident has itself not been proved to be one of 'sati', 'sati glorification' is not established by the taking out of processions.
The other striking feature of the case is the turning hostile of senior government officials including police officers. In what is probably unprecedented, ADM Nar Hari Sharma, SDM Gyan Prakash Shukla, SHO Bhilwara Satish Kumar, SHO Nagar Nigam, Jaipur Chagan Lal, amongst other ASIs and constables, all changed their testimonies in court and refused to support the prosecution launched and conducted by their own administration. Lapses on the part of the prosecution, such as a delay in filing an FIR (First Information Report), failure to prove the photographs, speeches recorded and news items through the examination of photographers, technicians and the journalists concerned, the absence of test identification all contributed to the acquittal.
As time for an appeal with the high court runs out, continuing protests within the state and across the country have failed to persuade the state government, headed by Vasundhara Raje, to file an appeal against the acquittal and take steps to conduct, with due care and diligence, the prosecution of 18 cases of 'sati glorification' still pending trial.
(Rakesh Shukla is an advocate with the Supreme Court)
InfoChange India News & Features development news India - Sati glorification: Crime, society and the wheels of injustice
By Rakesh Shukla
Despite protests both within Rajasthan and across the country, no appeal has been filed against the recent acquittal of those accused of glorifying sati, following the death of Roop Kanwar on her husband's funeral pyre back in 1987
On March 3, 2004, women's groups including the Rajasthan University Women's Association, Sathin Karmachari Sangh and the National Federation of Indian Women, under the banner of Mahila Atyachar Virodhi Jan Andolan, staged a march in Jaipur protesting the acquittal, on January 31, of all the accused in four criminal cases of glorification of sati, which was abolished in 1829 by Lord Bentinck. The accused include, among others, a former minister, a former IAS officer, an advocate and the president of the Rajput Maha Sabha.
The cases go back to Deorala 1987, and have a chequered career. The Rajasthan High Court quashed the chargesheets in December 1987 itself! The Supreme Court finally reversed the high court judgement and sent the cases back for trial in January 2003.
On September 4, 1987 in Deorala, a nondescript village in Rajasthan, 18-year-old Roop Kanwar burned to death on the pyre of her husband Maal Singh. Dressed in bridal finery, Roop Kanwar walked at the head of the funeral procession to the centre of the village and ascended the pyre. The family lit the pyre fully aware that she was sitting on it, alive, with hundreds of onlookers watching the proceedings. In fact, relatives even fed a thousand people in honour of 'Sati Mata'.
Based on a petition by women activists the Rajasthan High Court, on September 14, 1987, ordered the state government to prevent a function glorifying sati from taking place on the 13th day of Roop Kanwar's death. The ceremony was nevertheless held with much fanfare. A festive 'chunari', taken round in procession, draped over a trishul to resemble the form of a woman, was set ablaze in the presence of VIPs, politicians, legislators and thousands of people. Cries of " Sati Mata ki jai ," " Jab tak suraj-chand rahega, Roop Kanwar tera naam rahega " ("As long as the sun and the moon exist, Roop Kanwar will be remembered") rent the air.
Pressure from women's groups led to the promulgation of the Rajasthan Sati (Prevention) Ordinance, 1987, on October 1, 1987, prohibiting the glorification of sati. The Sati Dharma Suraksha Samiti dropped 'Sati' from its name and organised a massive rally, mid-October, in Jaipur. People carried naked swords and shouted slogans in favour of sati and Roop Kanwar. Similar rallies were organised in the districts of Alwar and Sikar. Under the ordinance, 22 criminal cases pertaining to these rallies were filed for 'glorification of sati'.
On October 11, 1996, the additional district and sessions judge at Neem-ka-Thana in Rajasthan pronounced all 32 accused, including Roop Kanwar's father-in-law, 'not guilty' with regard to the immolation. They were acquitted.
The main reason for their acquittal was stated to be the absence of eyewitnesses to the immolation, which took place in the presence of hundreds of onlookers. In fact, the court declared that the prosecution had not been able to prove that Roop Kanwar was alive when she sat on the pyre and was burnt to death!
The court's finding brings us to the acquittal, on January 31, 2004, of all the accused including former minister and vice-president of the state's BJP Rajendra Singh Rathore, former Bharatiya Yuva Morcha president and nephew of vice-president Bhairon Singh Shekhawat, Pratap Singh Khachariawas, president of the Rajput Maha Sabha, Narendra Singh Rajawat, former IAS officer Onkar Singh and advocate Ram Singh Manohar in four of the criminal cases under the 1987 ordinance.
Under the ordinance, 'sati' constitutes the burning or burying alive of any widow along with the body of her deceased husband or with any article, object or thing associated with the husband, irrespective of whether such burning or burying is voluntary on the part of the widow or otherwise.
Glorification has been defined under section 2(b) of the ordinance. The first limb of the provision defines 'glorification' as including the observance of any ceremony or the taking out of a procession in connection with sati. Interposing 'or', the second limb declares the creation of a trust, collection of funds, construction of a temple or the performance of any ceremony thereat with a view to perpetuating the honour of, or to preserve the memory of a widow committing sati as glorification.
The court, duty-bound to apply the definition of sati as laid down in the law, instead declares that 'sati' means a "woman being virtuous, having strong character, completely devoted towards her husband and having a relationship with only one man during her whole life". Applying this subjective meaning, betraying a patriarchal mindset, the judgement refers to Sita and Anusuya as 'satis' and observes that the invocation of their name would obviously not make a person guilty of sati glorification.
The provision is then interpreted to mean that the observance of any ceremony or the taking out of a procession must also be in relation to a particular incident for the act to be punishable. Carrying this twisted logic further, the court rules that as the Roop Kanwar incident has itself not been proved to be one of 'sati', 'sati glorification' is not established by the taking out of processions.
The other striking feature of the case is the turning hostile of senior government officials including police officers. In what is probably unprecedented, ADM Nar Hari Sharma, SDM Gyan Prakash Shukla, SHO Bhilwara Satish Kumar, SHO Nagar Nigam, Jaipur Chagan Lal, amongst other ASIs and constables, all changed their testimonies in court and refused to support the prosecution launched and conducted by their own administration. Lapses on the part of the prosecution, such as a delay in filing an FIR (First Information Report), failure to prove the photographs, speeches recorded and news items through the examination of photographers, technicians and the journalists concerned, the absence of test identification all contributed to the acquittal.
As time for an appeal with the high court runs out, continuing protests within the state and across the country have failed to persuade the state government, headed by Vasundhara Raje, to file an appeal against the acquittal and take steps to conduct, with due care and diligence, the prosecution of 18 cases of 'sati glorification' still pending trial.
(Rakesh Shukla is an advocate with the Supreme Court)
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No problem bro. Indian will always say this is illegal in india about all social injustices. But in practice many parts of india is still living in dark ages.
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sati was a reality and is banned in India ages ago. Nobody is practicing sati in India, it is non-existent.
The video you posted shows men beating women and it has nothing to do with sati , or are you saying beating women is called sati? Then it happens not only in India, but also in Pakistan..
Your intentions are clear, open a new thread , post some crap and bash India..
Next time please try some new/credible topics to bash india..
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sati was a reality and is banned in India ages ago. Nobody is practicing sati in India, it is non-existent.
The video you posted shows men beating women and it has nothing to do with sati , or are you saying beating women is called sati? Then it happens not only in India, but also in Pakistan..
Your intentions are clear, open a new thread , post some crap and bash India..
Next time please try some new/credible topics to bash india..
Read the Video description , and if not watch all parts of the video that i have just posted , BTW in india people Eat Human flesh too!!
No intentions to india but to something to me is Pathetic
You better try to explain us the "sati" itself
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I see the two videos in which i see the ritualism in India.
I am very sad to see the hole situation the poor women face.
But i still can not quit what is this i think it is bad symbol for any progressive nation.
If in the women was beating for what
what is her crime
she did require of some love form peoples.
but sorry to say the brave peoples beating him lavishly
i can not able for doing any step in this regard but request to the people of India to please stop this.
i know majority of peoples don't like this but when they see this situation they must interfare and break this bad ritual setting
ritualism in India.I am very sad to see the hole situation the poor women face.
But i still can not quit what is this i think it is bad symbol for any progressive nation.
If in the women was beating for what
what is her crime
she did require of some love form peoples.
but sorry to say the brave peoples beating him lavishly
i can not able for doing any step in this regard but request to the people of India to please stop this.
i know majority of peoples don't like this but when they see this situation they must interfare and break this bad ritual setting
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