Hindu Rashtra decoded ( With commentary of a trustworthy Maulvi)

[Smarana Mitra]

It is a two-way street. You buy oil and they get paid for it. And Arabian investments are no charity.

Even if India expels Muslims, Arabians cannot stop selling oil to India. Their economies would take a bad hit. Did they ban oil export to Myanmar?

Who told you that India can simply buy oil? Oil is not something that can be just bought. It is a political commodity which has political strategy behind its sale. Oil price, sanctions etc depend on this oil politics. India does not have large export base to buy oil. India gets most of its money via service exports, remittance & investments which total to over 300 billion annually. All these sources of income are superficial and easily substitutable. India gets this money only as rent. There is no other way that India can simply get oil.

Myanmar does not import oil from Arabs. Myanmar mostly trades with China and India with very limited dependence on trade with other countries. Myanmar mostly aims to be an autarky with self sufficiency or only be dependent on reliable countries like China or India.

Words without actions are meaningless.

The fact is your Banias of corporate world - Tatas, Ambanis,Adanis etc have huge investments in Bangladesh. If India expels Bangladeshi Muslims they would incurr huge losses. The RSS puts money over the Hindu nation.

Investment is a political tool. These companies get money from other sources via political means like KSA investing $15 billion in Reliance for a token share. Similar investment happens from India into Bangladesh. There is no Indian indigenous resources being funneled into Bangladesh.

The fact remains the more time we allot to Muslims, the stronger they grow. More difficult to take care of the problem.

Forget expulsion. The RSS does not even have the courage to sterilize them. Even Bangladesh does that to Rohingya.

Why forget that Dharmics also grow stronger? Muslims are growing stronger but Dharmics are growing much more stronger. India is using the time to develop advanced technology and industrial base. Muslims, on the other hand, are only increasing their population of illiterates while having 0 growth in technology or industry. The power obtained by industry and technology is much more than power obtained by population growth.

Sterilising muslims is akin to attacking muslims. It is best to let muslims be with a stringent retaliatory response if they cause any violent harm. Let India focus on developing technology and industry first. Only then other things can be decided. One can't do many things at once and hence one has to prioritise.

 

[Nilu Pule]

Why forget that Dharmics also grow stronger? Muslims are growing stronger but Dharmics are growing much more stronger. India is using the time to develop advanced technology and industrial base. Muslims, on the other hand, are only increasing their population of illiterates while having 0 growth in technology or industry. The power obtained by industry and technology is much more than power obtained by population growth.

Sterilising muslims is akin to attacking muslims. It is best to let muslims be with a stringent retaliatory response if they cause any violent harm. Let India focus on developing technology and industry first. Only then other things can be decided. One can't do many things at once and hence one has to prioritise.

Dharmics are getting weaker. They are busy chasing meaningless materialistic goals. There is no unity amongst them.

On another hand, Muslims are conspiring behind closed doors to Islamize India and getting rid of non-Muslims. To them material prosperity is meaningless, they want to enjoy the riches of after-life. They are trying to outbreed the rest. This is when upper-class dharmics have like a single child. If that's not enough their Bangladeshi Muslim brothers are helping their cause.

I have lived in many places. I can tell you 10 years back, in some areas there were no Muslims at all. Now these areas are swarmed by Muslims from North India. The sight of them walking around with their 6-12 children gives me a glimpse of the future. The likes of you- RSS supporters are far away from reality.

As for industrial progress, that cannot take place with Muslims. The Congress-led leftist politicians appeased Muslims and divided hindus on basis of caste to remain in power for so long. Development never mattered.

RSS is no different from the leftists. They want to use 'Muslims' to create fear and win elections. Mind you, they want this problem to remain unresolved. Not take care of it once for all.

 

[ps3linux]

@Nilu Pule my friend,

Firstly, allow me to thank you for the tag. It is very kind of you to trust me on this subject.

@RIWWIR , my fellow traveller here on PDF, is one of the few people who undertands the scarifices made by muslims in your country to make Creation of Pakistan possible. So, in alll honesty, we, Paks, owe muslims in your country alot @Areesh

What you, @Nilu Pule , is struggling with the Truth, naked Truth... that Hindus and Muslims are two separate nations, cultures and civilisation... the social-engineering of turning Muslims in your country hindufied is not working... it can never work because it goes against the very essence, very soul of the difference between the two of you.

The super clever RSS/Hindutva can buy FuzlaGangsters aka FUI Hind and have them say all sorts of things... but they cann't re-engineer Islam or hindufy it.
The more they will try, the more push back will come... somehow, you understand this Spirit..and RSS/BJP media-cell workers here on PDF don't.

Obviously, this is 350 million problem you have... the more RSS/Hindutva does its cheap chauvanistic tricks of demolishing monuments or mosques... the more it unites the muslims..

Please, remember... Pakistan, with all its flaws or weaknesses, is a living example for 350 millions to seek escape from total domination... more lynching, rapping or orangfication means more Pakistanification of 350 million..

You have seen it in IoJK..where PakKashmiris have totally rejected any form of hindufication..although your governments have been buying off 'Kashmiri leaders' there for 72 years... still no success... and now this show of Hindu Might and annexation is not going that well..

Though the annexation and ongoing Genocide gives a temporary sense of Hindu Victory and RSS/Hindutva can feel that they have gained more ground... a kinda of revenge for 1000 years @PakSword

However, this is short lived... please, my friend @Nilu Pule , see that BD is defacto a hindufied regime with full support of your government... and the more the Beauty there does her oppression.. the more anger/push back will come... BD is a muslim country... no matter how many people Beauty hangs.. it is not going to change

Do you know that BD is the biggest route for weapons to PakKashmiris in IoJK .. Pakistan gets the bad press and of course it sells on your media.... Think, my friend, think!

And there is Assam/SevenSisters... no amount of Concetration Camps can hold millions there.. RSS/Hindutva can lynch but a total termination of 350 million is a bit too much even for a super power like your country. You don't have the industrial, logistic and societal base for such a large scale operation.

So, for now The Killing Fields of Kashmir is where RSS/Hindutva can satisfy their lust for revenge @waz

Pakistan by it very existence is an existential danger for you... not because of war or nukiz.. NO... but because Pakistan exists and is free... regardless of the fun/ridicule that your media/politocz/posters make... And this is an inspiration/aspiration for muslims in your country...

Hence, RSS/Hindutva trying to put lipstick on the pig won't make it a supermodel... they shall keep selling this HinduRashtra and winning elections...

As I have said before... many of these tough guys and most of your leaders are closet muslims... subconciously your country is still under occupation... sans some southern parts... that is true reason for this over the top machoismo!

Masses needs to be exploited... with an orange tint... thats what it is.

So, I am sorry to inform you that muslims in your country cann't be deported or killed/terminated... they are there to stay or carve out countries for themselves...
But they cann't be hindufied ... simply because you are two different nations... just look at the architecture... you will get the picture.. and then there is food and clothing styles...

The heart of the matter is rather simple: You have to accept something you cann't accept... the more you try, the more it becomes separated...

Life is all about managing grief, happiness.... either we can produce affection as result of loss or bitterness... it doesn't matter... we shall all die... to plant trees is better than cutting down forests... yet both happen.

Human Condition.

Now, have some Peace @Nilu Pule and learn to manage your anger/loss... you are such an original poster... sad to see you remain imprisoned... Or you just might be pulling our legs and having laugh at the foolishness of us... in either case... we all going to die!

Life is so transient... yet we live in the illusion of its permanence. Good as well...otherwise, how else people will wake and chase life?

You were going to start threads about Brahma civilsation... would be nice to learn a few new things other than Ganga civilsation.

Mangus

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@Verve 800 years have past... entering the Realm of Nine @ps3linux @Sine Nomine @graphican

Good thread, however, as I am travelling tonight to east coast for some personal reasons and will be back first week December during the time I have few loose ends to tie, I did mention somewhere else that twice in our life time the eldest son visits some select Rishis at Varanasi, Vrindavan to get the family tree recorded I did pose this questions to them, Islam being a religion of nature appealed to two castes of Aryan system 1) the suppressed ones the shudra for reasons understandable, and 2) The warriors/rulers - kashtriya. What did aryan/hindus gain by making the muslim kashtryas as outcasts. I will post their comments later.

More on Hindu-renaissance under Shiva ji and bala ji baji rao some other time, gotta finish up my packing.

If what @jamahir is saying is right then I am worried two opposite extremist ideologies in one country, that's a recipe for disaster.

 

[Smarana Mitra]

Dharmics are getting weaker. They are busy chasing meaningless materialistic goals. There is no unity amongst them.

On another hand, Muslims are conspiring behind closed doors to Islamize India and getting rid of non-Muslims. To them material prosperity is meaningless, they want to enjoy the riches of after-life. They are trying to outbreed the rest. This is when upper-class dharmics have like a single child. If that's not enough their Bangladeshi Muslim brothers are helping their cause.

I have lived in many places. I can tell you 10 years back, in some areas there were no Muslims at all. Now these areas are swarmed by Muslims from North India. The sight of them walking around with their 6-12 children gives me a glimpse of the future. The likes of you- RSS supporters are far away from reality.

As for industrial progress, that cannot take place with Muslims. The Congress-led leftist politicians appeased Muslims and divided hindus on basis of caste to remain in power for so long. Development never mattered.

RSS is no different from the leftists. They want to use 'Muslims' to create fear and win elections. Mind you, they want this problem to remain unresolved. Not take care of it once for all.

Talking illogical and nonconstructive words only makes your point weak. Muslims population growth was 24% whereas hindu population growth was 16% in 2011. It will be about 20% and 12% for Muslims and hindus in 2021. Muslims are breeding at 3 child per woman. Where did these 6 children come from? The upper class dharmics are just 10% of population with fertility of 1.5 while other hindus are still breeding 2.4 children. The upper caste dharmics are developing weapons technology and industry while other hindus are increasing population.

Only a fool thinks that material gains is useless. I am not talking of standard of living but weapons technology when I mean industry or development. The idea that muslims will simply Islamise India magically by outbreeding is illogical as world is not simply controlled by reproduction. Military domination is the key. One can't be militarily dominant without material gains. Material gains not mean lack of unity or meaningless goals. Only a person who is intent on sabotaging or a traitor would ask RSS to stop technology development but go for spiritual or other retarded paths with short term goals.

Congress is not in power anymore. So, no point talking of congress. Moreover, people like Indira, PVNR etc did help Indian defence development significantly, though in case of Indira, her real aim was to contain USA interference. Don't talk without context about congress in this topic.

Again, the foolish notion that RSS wants power by creating fear using muslims is a simply absurd. People who don't understand the meaning of power talk such nonsense. None can simply gain power by shouting without action plan. Otherwise, why don't you create fear and become powerful? Who is stopping you from doing that if it was so easy?

 

[usman012]

Hindu terrorism is increasing day by day and the world should take it as a serious threat to the whole world .

 

[Nilu Pule]

Talking illogical and nonconstructive words only makes your point weak. Muslims population growth was 24% whereas hindu population growth was 16% in 2011. It will be about 20% and 12% for Muslims and hindus in 2021. Muslims are breeding at 3 child per woman. Where did these 6 children come from? The upper class dharmics are just 10% of population with fertility of 1.5 while other hindus are still breeding 2.4 children. The upper caste dharmics are developing weapons technology and industry while other hindus are increasing population.

Only a fool thinks that material gains is useless. I am not talking of standard of living but weapons technology when I mean industry or development. The idea that muslims will simply Islamise India magically by outbreeding is illogical as world is not simply controlled by reproduction. Military domination is the key. One can't be militarily dominant without material gains. Material gains not mean lack of unity or meaningless goals. Only a person who is intent on sabotaging or a traitor would ask RSS to stop technology development but go for spiritual or other retarded paths with short term goals.

Congress is not in power anymore. So, no point talking of congress. Moreover, people like Indira, PVNR etc did help Indian defence development significantly, though in case of Indira, her real aim was to contain USA interference. Don't talk without context about congress in this topic.

Again, the foolish notion that RSS wants power by creating fear using muslims is a simply absurd. People who don't understand the meaning of power talk such nonsense. None can simply gain power by shouting without action plan. Otherwise, why don't you create fear and become powerful? Who is stopping you from doing that if it was so easy?

Do you really believe official government figures?

As for military development, India has the already the power to expel or extinguish them.

And Indian payload can reach Riyadh and Ankara too. So I don't know what RSS is waiting for.

 

[Smarana Mitra]

Do you really believe official government figures?

As for military development, India has the already the power to expel or extinguish them.

And Indian payload can reach Riyadh and Ankara too. So I don't know what RSS is waiting for.

The population growth of muslims in India is 24% and there are several census in various countries that also show similar trend amongst muslim population. This shows that census is reliable as every country on earth will not rig their census. Secondly, census is done by lakhs of teachers of government schools. It is not possible for such a large scale cover-up.

Secondly, mere power to expel is not enough as these are only short term goals. India needs to become super power and fully advanced in technology. Current level of technology is one generation behind the latest technology. It requires time and resources. India is getting the resources and hence it is a trade-off

Wars are not fought by throwing missiles but by invasion. Missiles are only the first step, not the end. There is no point of having missiles if India does not have enough strength to eliminate enemy missiles and limit losses and also conquer enemy resources to end the war.

 

[Nilu Pule]

The population growth of muslims in India is 24% and there are several census in various countries that also show similar trend amongst muslim population. This shows that census is reliable as every country on earth will not rig their census. Secondly, census is done by lakhs of teachers of government schools. It is not possible for such a large scale cover-up.

Maybe

Secondly, mere power to expel is not enough as these are only short term goals. India needs to become super power and fully advanced in technology. Current level of technology is one generation behind the latest technology. It requires time and resources. India is getting the resources and hence it is a trade-off

Time and Tide waits for no man

Wars are not fought by throwing missiles but by invasion. Missiles are only the first step, not the end. There is no point of having missiles if India does not have enough strength to eliminate enemy missiles and limit losses and also conquer enemy resources to end the war.

Nukes are a safeguard for preventing those nations from attacking India. Why would we invade them?

 

[Smarana Mitra]

Time and Tide waits for no man

Neither does time respond to man's desire. So, man has to wait for the right time.

 

[Nilu Pule]

Neither does time respond to man's desire. So, man has to wait for the right time.

You can wait. But RSS won't make it happen, my Malayalee friend.

 

[dani92]

Dharmics are getting weaker. They are busy chasing meaningless materialistic goals. There is no unity amongst them.

On another hand, Muslims are conspiring behind closed doors to Islamize India and getting rid of non-Muslims. To them material prosperity is meaningless, they want to enjoy the riches of after-life. They are trying to outbreed the rest. This is when upper-class dharmics have like a single child. If that's not enough their Bangladeshi Muslim brothers are helping their cause.

I have lived in many places. I can tell you 10 years back, in some areas there were no Muslims at all. Now these areas are swarmed by Muslims from North India. The sight of them walking around with their 6-12 children gives me a glimpse of the future. The likes of you- RSS supporters are far away from reality.

As for industrial progress, that cannot take place with Muslims. The Congress-led leftist politicians appeased Muslims and divided hindus on basis of caste to remain in power for so long. Development never mattered.

RSS is no different from the leftists. They want to use 'Muslims' to create fear and win elections. Mind you, they want this problem to remain unresolved. Not take care of it once for all.

Sooner or later your country will become majority muslim lol

 

[Smarana Mitra]

You can wait. But RSS won't make it happen, my Malayalee friend.

RSS is just an organisation. With sufficient leadership skill, even you can take over the organisation. There is no fixed leadership to RSS and it runs on the basis of cadre strength and cause. What matters most is weapons development and technology.