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Hindu Nationalists Promote "Akhand Bharat" in Indian Textbooks

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You think he will or can?He has been given the links to the NCERT textbooks multiple times before in the thread,but instead of pointing out the points he just goes around advertising his own website:lol:
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let person run behind anything...
our job is to show the MIRROR.....
i will not leave leave him until he replies.. reminders wil go on
 
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someone just scan our whole NCERT history syllabus n upload it here,,,,,let the Pakistanis read n decide,,,
har roz ek hi gana bajta hae yaha...


me three:suicide:

They think they are highly prized and desirable people who India covets. Everyday it hurts them to see Indians jumping with joy over partition. To suppress this trauma, they keep imagining one or other scheme by which India will take over Pakistan.
 
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They think they are highly prized and desirable people who India covets. Everyday it hurts them to see Indians jumping with joy over partition. To suppress this trauma, they keep imagining one or other scheme by which India will take over Pakistan.

Lmaoooo thanks for the laugh hermoine you never disappoint.
 
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Lmaoooo thanks for the laugh hermoine you never disappoint.

This is not aimed at you or other sane members from Pakistan (of which there are plenty), only some loonies who keep posting nonsense threads like the OP.
 
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let person run behind anything...
our job is to show the MIRROR.....
i will not leave leave him until he replies.. reminders wil go on
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let person run behind anything...
our job is to show the MIRROR.....
i will not leave leave him until he replies.. reminders wil go on
People like him are just blind India haters,no matter what the facts are,they'll simply try to bash India,without realizing the difference b/w the two nations and how much they lag behind. Neverthless to say,we've got blind Pakistan bashers in our side too.
 
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People like him are just blind India haters,no matter what the facts are,they'll simply try to bash India,without realizing the difference b/w the two nations and how much they lag behind. Neverthless to say,we've got blind Pakistan bashers in our side too.
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both nation .. need to cathc up...
current situation not desirbale for both..
but,
people should not misinform ,, either by ignorance or by design ...
Riaz bhai can contribute immensely constructive way to both nation.. but seems he got another path..
If he want to hate india let him do .. its his choice..
but he cant get others on wrong platform by annoucning wrong train.. which lead all to worng destination..
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let him reply ...
the guy who quote from WB, IMF source known which data to take and of what sample to have CONCLUSION for ALL..
 
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Finally something rational and realistic rather than years of cultural marxist crap.
 
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Leading Indian historians on Monday slammed former school teacher and activist Dina Nath Batra's books which have been recommended as secondary reading in Gujarat schools, saying they were nothing but works of “fantasy”.

Academics say the 85-year-old Batra's books seeking to Indianise education are often factually incorrect. According to media reports, the books contain several moral and political prescriptions such as a proposal to redraw the map of India in line with the right-wing idea of an Akhand Bharat.

They also suggest that birthdays should not be celebrated by blowing candles on the grounds that it is Western culture. Instead, they should be marked by wearing swadeshi clothes, having havans, reciting mantras such as the Gayatri mantra and feeding cows.

Batra uses stories of saints and demons to interpret history and includes historically inaccurate, and sometimes politically incorrect, anecdotes such as a story about a royal couple being blessed with children only after devoted cow-worship.

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Romila Thapar, one of the leading scholars of ancient Indian history, told HT this is “not history, but fantasy”.

“This is absurd. If education is about training children how to think, this approach will not work," she said, adding that it was important to equip students with skills to ask critical questions instead of telling them all was well in ancient India.

Irfan Habib, another leading historian and Professor Emeritus at Aligarh Muslim University, was also scathing in his criticism.

“The contents are so absurd that any reaction would seem superfluous … I don't know what they will teach students when they have turned geography into fantasy,” he said over the phone from Aligarh, adding that it was an insult to the people of Gujarat that their children were being exposed to this “nonsense”.

A Delhi-based historian of science and modern political history, S Irfan Habib, described Batra's books as “hilarious but scary” on Twitter.

He told HT the core problem was that textbooks were being introduced in Gujarat without any vetting process but as a part of a political programme. “Young minds are being exposed to misinterpretations of the past and even the present.”

Habib said the issue should not be reduced to a debate of left versus right. “The point here is whether the person has any semblance of scholarship, any track record.”

Historians slam Dina Nath Batra books, call them 'fantasy' - Hindustan Times
 
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#India's #Hindu sage conducted #nuke test ages ago: #BJP MP via @htTweets Indian sage conducted nuke test ages ago: BJP MP | india | Hindustan Times
"Today we are talking about nuclear tests. Lakhs of years ago, Sage Kanad had conducted a nuclear test. Our knowledge and science do not lack anything," the Indian Express quoted him as saying in Parliament on Wednesday.
Sage Kanad is believed to have lived around the 2nd century BC.
Nishank, the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) MP from Haridwar, also seconded Prime Minister Narendra Modi's citing of plastic surgery and genetic science with reference to Lord Ganesha getting an elephant trunk and birth of Karna.
"People are raising questions on Modiji's comments on Ganesha's surgery. It was actually a surgery. The science available to us is not available elsewhere in the world… science or knowledge to transplant a severed head existed only in India."
Nishank also batted for astrology, saying it is the topmost science in the world. He said our ancient astrologers dwarfed all other sciences.
The Haridwar MP's comments triggered a protest from Left members even as he said there should be a "proper discussion on it and it should get the respect it deserves".
Nishank's comments are in line with a series of assertions doing the rounds of late; the most notable being from retired school headmaster Dinanath Batra who got American academic Wendy Doniger's book on Hinduism pulped on the grounds that it insulted Hindus.
Batra has written books as well. Earlier this year, the Gujarat government mandated some of them as supplementary reading for its primary and secondary students.
From preaching about ancient India's gurukul style of learning, redrawing the Indian map to include other countries to interpreting history through stories about rishi-munis (sages and seers), dev-daanav (deities and demons) and "heroes" of pre-Independence India, these books try to conform to "Bharatiya sanskriti" (Indian culture).
 
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#India's #Hindu sage conducted #nuke test ages ago: #BJP MP via @htTweets Indian sage conducted nuke test ages ago: BJP MP | india | Hindustan Times
"Today we are talking about nuclear tests. Lakhs of years ago, Sage Kanad had conducted a nuclear test. Our knowledge and science do not lack anything," the Indian Express quoted him as saying in Parliament on Wednesday.
Sage Kanad is believed to have lived around the 2nd century BC.
Nishank, the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) MP from Haridwar, also seconded Prime Minister Narendra Modi's citing of plastic surgery and genetic science with reference to Lord Ganesha getting an elephant trunk and birth of Karna.
"People are raising questions on Modiji's comments on Ganesha's surgery. It was actually a surgery. The science available to us is not available elsewhere in the world… science or knowledge to transplant a severed head existed only in India."
Nishank also batted for astrology, saying it is the topmost science in the world. He said our ancient astrologers dwarfed all other sciences.
The Haridwar MP's comments triggered a protest from Left members even as he said there should be a "proper discussion on it and it should get the respect it deserves".
Nishank's comments are in line with a series of assertions doing the rounds of late; the most notable being from retired school headmaster Dinanath Batra who got American academic Wendy Doniger's book on Hinduism pulped on the grounds that it insulted Hindus.
Batra has written books as well. Earlier this year, the Gujarat government mandated some of them as supplementary reading for its primary and secondary students.
From preaching about ancient India's gurukul style of learning, redrawing the Indian map to include other countries to interpreting history through stories about rishi-munis (sages and seers), dev-daanav (deities and demons) and "heroes" of pre-Independence India, these books try to conform to "Bharatiya sanskriti" (Indian culture).
Leave aside Mythology,which is present in every religion,Indians were among pioneers in Surgery among other things,a known fact.


Father of Indian Surgery

Sushruta, one of his disciples attained great proficiency in surgery, lived some time in 400 B.C. His famous writings known as "Sushruta Samhita" are devoted essentially to surgery. But that was not all: he also wrote on medicine, pathology, anatomy, midwifery, ophthalmology, biology and hygiene. From the available records, it is evident that major abdominal operations were also carried out. Vesical calculi, even those days, were common and hence the operation for the removal of vesical calculi was well described in Sushruta Samhita. Surgical procedures for anal fistula, fractures, extraction of foetus in abnormal presentation, amputation, excision of tumours, repair of hernia and couching of cataract were also known. Rhinoplasty was commonly performed for restoration of severed or cut noses as punishment for certain offences such as adultery. He carried out plastic surgery, giving his patients a new nose or a new ear by the process of skin grafting. Dr.Hirschberg of Berlin pays his tribute to ancient Indian surgery by writing "The whole plastic surgery in Europetook a new flight when these cunning devices of Indian workmen became known to us". Sushruta described many sharp surgical instruments emphasizing the need to get them made of "pure, strong and sharp iron". Several types of knives and needles have been described depending upon their use and tissues concerned. He taught his pupils how to make incisions on the abdomen by using a pumpkin for demonstration purposes. It is believed that the following ingenious method for suturing the severed ends of intestine was employed. The cut ends of the intestine were apposed to each other and big black ants, collected specifically for this purpose were made to bite the apposed ends and their heads severed when their pincers had closed. Thus the pincers remained 'in situ' due to rigor mortis retaining the cut ends of the intestine in apposition for some time. The heads and the pincers of the ants being organic matter got digested in due course of time, not unlike the catgut of the present day surgery. His works were translated into Arabic by the 8th century A.D. and called " Kitab-i- Susrud ". There is adequate evidence that in ancient India, anatomical study of the human body was carried out. To quote the appropriate translation, "Any one, who wishes to acquire a thorough knowledge of anatomy, must prepare a dead body and carefully observe and examine all its parts". The method of study was to submerge the body in water and allow it to decompose: an examination of the decomposing body was carried out at intervals to study structures, layer by layer, as they got exposed following decomposition.

Charak, the great Hindu physician lived some time around 320 B.C., There is a lot of uncertainly regarding his parentage, his place of abode and whether Charak was his personal name, the name of the school he belonged to, or a title he assumed for himself, or which was conferred upon him. His teachings are complied into what is known as "Charak Samhita" which forms along with the "Sushruta Samhita " some of the classics of ancient Indian medicine. Referring to ancient Indian medicine, Castiglioni writes "....we must admit that Indian medicine, and especially its surgery, had a development in ancient times that was most probably quite independent of Greek medicine ".

Vagbhata I was another important personality of the time. He probably lived around 200 B.C.. His chief work was "Astanga Samgraha" ,a comprehensive treatise on medicine, therapautics, hygiene, anatomy, surgery and other allied subjects. Vaghabhata II wrote extensively on medicine which is known as " Astanga Hridaya Samhita". A lot of matter in this work appears to be , more of less, a reproduction of Charak's and Sushruta's teachnings. Madhavacharya dealt with methods of diagnosis of diseases. His compilation is known as "Rugvinischaya" and it also includes pathology - "Nidana". Nagarjun was a renowned alchemist and is very rightly known as the "Father of Indian chemistry". He lived some time during the period 100 B.C. - 100 A.D.

In ancient India , advances in surgery took place through wars and battle wounds. Aryans used their knowledge of herbal, mineral and other drugs effectively besides their surgical skill. It is believed that Visapala, a woman related to Raja Chola, accompanied him into the battle field and lost a leg. The Vedic surgeons Aswinis fitted her with an artificial leg. Also described in Rig Veda asthe legend has it, that Raja Bhoja's (980 A.D.) skull was trephined to relieve him of his severe headache and to remove the malignant portion of the brain. After the surgical procedure, the Raja was cured of the pain..

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Did the Vedic Philosophy Influence the Concept of Free Energy and Quantum Mechanics?

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The properties of space have been postulated by many, from ancient Vedic philosophy, Eastern Mystics, various ancient civilizations throughout human history all the way to Descartes, Einstein, Newton and more.

Again, if you observed the composition of an atom with a microscope, you would see a small, invisible tornado like vortex, with a number of infinitely small energy vortices called quarks and photons. These are what make up the structure of the atom. As you focused in closer and closer on the structure of the atom, you would see nothing, you would observe a physical void. The atom has no physical structure, we have no physical structure, physical things really don’t have any physical structure. Atoms are made out of invisible energy, not tangible matter.

“And they allowed Apollonius to ask questions; and he asked them of what they thought the cosmos was composed; but they replied; “Of elements.” “Are there then four?” he asked. “Not four,” said Larchas, “but five.” “And how can there be a fifth,” said Apollonius, “alongside of water and air and earth and fire?” “There is the ether,”replied the other, “which we must regard as the stuff of which gods are made; for just as all mortal creatures inhale the wire, so do immortal and divine natures inhale the ether.” “Am I,” said Appollonius, “to regard the universe as a living creature?” “Yes,” said the other.”
~ The Life of Apollonius of Tyana, Philostratus, 220AD

“Get over it, and accept the inarguable conclusion. The universe is immaterial-mental and spiritual.”
~ R.C. Henry, Professor of physics and Astronomy at Johns Hopkins University

Tesla and Ancient Vedic Philosophy and the Properties of SpaceThe Vedas are a group of writings that consist of hymns, prayers, myths, historical accounting, science and the nature of reality. They date back at least 5000 years, and are not so different from other ancient texts that dive into the same matters from all across the globe. The language used is Sanskrit and its origins are unknown.



We’ve seen a very interesting trend (especially within the past decade) of modern-day science catching up to an ancient understanding about the true nature of reality, its make-up, how it functions and how we can work with it to bring about change on our planet. For anybody to label merging of spirituality and science as pseudoscience means they have not properly investigated it. Spiritual concepts of our ancient world are directly intertwined with modern-day science, more so quantum physics, and Nikola Tesla was well aware of this.

Tesla understood the great power of Zero Point Field, Akasha or Ether: the power of space between the electrons and the nucleus. Vivekanda’s effect on Tesla was so great that he became vegetarian, became celibate and started using Sanskrit words. He died with his scalar energy science in his head, because he did NOT want the US military to use it to destroy the planet. No wonder he was denied the Nobel prize and eventually killed. Knowledge is power, and there are many people that want all the power for themselves. Tesla wanted to give power to everyone for free! He was actually the first person to figure out how to make radio communication possible across the Atlantic ocean. But because he wanted to make this ability free for others his funding was stopped and the credit was later given to someone else that played the power game better than him

“All perceptible matter comes from a primary substance, or tenuity beyond conception, filling all space, the akasha or luminiferous ether, which is acted upon by the life giving Prana or creative force, calling into existence, in never-ending cycles all things and phenomena.”~ Nikola Tesla, Man’s Greatest Achievement, 1907 (1)(2)

Tesla was aware of ancient concepts as I have mentioned and the correlation it had with the science he was working on – using sanskrit worlds like “akasha,” and “prana” to describe the force and matter that exists all around us. These words come from the Upanishads (a collection of Vedic texts).

“The aakaash is not destructible, it is the primordial absolute substratum that creates cosmic matter and hence the properties of aakaash are not found in the material properties that are in a sense relative. The aakaash is the eternally existent, superfluid reality, for which creation and destruction are inapplicable.”~ Paramahamsa Tewari, Engineer, Physicist and Inventor

Nikola Tesla had correlations with Swami Vivekananda (1863-1902), who was one of the most famous and influential spiritual leaders of the philosophies of Vedanta (one of the six schools of Hindu philosophy, the term originally referred to the upanishads, a collection of philosophical texts in Hinduism) and Yoga. He was the chief disciple of Ramakrishna Paramahamsa and the founder of Ramakrishna Math and Ramakrishna Mission. He is a giant figure in the history of the hindu reform movements.

Vivekananda wrote a later to Tesla in the late 1800′s stating:
“Mr. Tesla thinks he can demonstrate mathematically that force and matter are reducible to potential energy. I am to go and see him next week to get this new mathematical demonstration. In that case the Vedantic cosmology will be placed on the surest of foundations. I am working a good deal now upon the cosmology and eschatology of the Vedanta. I clearly see their perfect union with modern science, and the elucidation of the one will be followed by that of the other.”~ Swami Vivekananda (Complete Works, VOL. V, Fifth Edition, 1347, p. 77) (1)

Tesla began using the Sanskrit words after meeting with Swami, and after studying the Eastern view of the true nature of reality, about the mechanisms that drive the material world. Eventually, it led him to the basis for the wireless transmission of electrical power, what is known as the Tesla Coil Transformer. During this year he made the following comments during a speech before the American Institute of Electrical Engineers (given before he familiarized himself with the the Vedic sincere of the easter nations of India, Tibet, and Nepal):

“Ere many generations pass, our machinery will be driven by a power obtainable at any point in the universe. This idea is not novel…We find it in the delightful myth of Antheus, who derives power from the earth; we find it among subtle speculations of one of your splendid mathematicians….Throughout space there is energy. Is this energy static, or kinetic? If static our hopes are in vain; if kinetic – and this we know it is, for certain – then it is a mere question of time when men will succeed in attaching their machinery to the very wheel work of nature.”
~ Nikola Tesla

“Swami Vivekananda was hopeful that Tesla would be able to show that what we call matter is simply potential energy because that would reconcile the teachings of the Vedas with modern science. The Swami realized that in that case, the Vedantic cosmology (would) be placed on the surest of foundations. Tesla understood the Sanskrit terminology and philosophy and found that it was a good means to describe the physical mechanisms of the universe as seen through his eyes. It would behoove those who would attempt to understand the science behind the inventions of Nikola Tesla to study Sanskrit and Vedic philosophy.”
~Toby Grotz, President, Wireless Engineering

Apparently, Tesla was unable to show the identity of energy and matter, this did not come until Albert Einstein published his paper on relativity, which was known in the East for the last 5000 years.

“All the powers in the universe are already ours. It is we who have put our hands before our eyes and cry that it is dark.”~ Swami Vivekananda

Tesla’s vision of the wireless transmission of electricity and free energy has been postponed for almost one hundred years now.

Bohr, Heisenberg and Schrödinger regulary read Vedic textsHeisenberg stated: “Quantum theory will not look ridiculous to people who have read Vedanta. Vedanta is the conclusion of Vedic thought.”

Furthermore, Fritjof Capra, who was interviewed by Renee Weber in the book The Holographic Paradigm (page 217-218), has stated that Schrödinger, in speaking about Heisenberg, has said:

“I had several discussions with Heisenberg. I lived in England then [circa 1972], and I visited him several times in Munich and showed him the whole manuscript chapter by chapter. He was very interested and very open, and he told me something that I think is not known publicly because he never published it. He said that he was well aware of these parallels. While he was working on quantum theory he went to India to lecture and was a guest of Tagore. He talked a lot with Tagore about Indian philosophy. Heisenberg told me that these talks had helped him a lot with his work in physics, because they showed him that all these new ideas in quantum physics were in fact not all that crazy. He realized there was, in fact, a whole culture that subscribed to very similar ideas. Heisenberg said that this was a great help for him.”


Niels Bohr, image from Wikipedia

The famous Danish physicist and Nobel Prize winner, Laureate Niels Bohr (1885-1962) (pictured right), was a follower of the Vedas. He said, “I go into the Upanishads to ask questions.” Both Bohr and Schrödinger, the founders of quantum physics, were avid readers of the Vedic texts and observed that their experiments in quantum physics were consistent with what they had read in the Vedas.

Niels Bohr got the ball rolling around 1900 by explaining why atoms emit and absorb electromagnetic radiation only at certain frequencies.

Then, in the 1920′s Erwin Schrödinger (1887-1961), an Austrian-Irish physicist (pictured below), who won the Nobel prize, came up with his famous wave equation that predicts how the Quantum Mechanical wave function changes with time. Wave functions are used in Quantum Mechanics to determine how particles move and interact with time.


Erwin Schrödinger, image from Wikipedia

Schrödinger wrote in his book Meine Weltansicht:

“This life of yours which you are living is not merely a piece of this entire existence, but in a certain sense the whole; only this whole is not so constituted that it can be surveyed in one single glance. This, as we know, is what the Brahmins [wise men or priests in the Vedic tradition] express in that sacred, mystic formula which is yet really so simple and so clear; tat tvam asi, this is you. Or, again, in such words as “I am in the east and the west, I am above and below, I am this entire world.”

This is a reference to the Mundaka Upanishad mantra (above) in which the Vedic understanding of the connectivity of living entities is put forward to help the Bhakta (practitioner of yoga) to understand the difference between the body and the living entity. How the real nature of the living entity is realized only in union with the source, the supreme being (Brahman/Krishna) through a platform of transcendental divine loving service.

Schrödinger, in speaking of a universe in which particles are represented by wave functions, said: “The unity and continuity of Vedanta are reflected in the unity and continuity of wave mechanics. This is entirely consistent with the Vedanta concept of All in One.”

Vedanta and gnosticism are beliefs likely to appeal to a mathematical physicist, a brilliant only child, tempted on occasion by intellectual pride. Such factors may help to explain why Schrödinger became a believer in Vedanta, but they do not detract from the importance of his belief as a foundation for his life and work. It would be simplistic to suggest that there is a direct causal link between his religious beliefs and his discoveries in theoretical physics, yet the unity and continuity of Vedanta are reflected in the unity and continuity of wave mechanics.

In 1925, the world view of physics was a model of the universe as a great machine composed of separable interacting material particles, During the next few years, Schrödinger and Heisenberg and their followers created a universe based on superimposed inseparable waves of probability amplitudes. This new view would be entirely consistent with the vedantic concept of the All in One (Schrödinger: Life and Thought (Meine Weltansicht), p. 173).

According to Walter J. Moore on page 125 of his biographical work, A Life of Erwin Schrödinger, Schrödinger found “Vedanta teaches that consciousness is singular, all happenings are played out in one universal consciousness and there is no multiplicity of selves… The stages of human development are to strive for Possession (Artha), Knowledge (Dharma), Ability (Kama), Being (Moksha)… Nirvana is a state of pure blissful knowledge. It has nothing to do with individual. The ego or its separation is an illusion. The goal of man is to preserve his Karma and to develop it further – when man dies his karma lives and creates for itself another carrier.”

Schrödinger did not believe that it is possible to demonstrate the unity of consciousness by logical arguments. One must make an imaginative leap guided by communion with nature and the persuasion of analogies. He understood the nonmaterial eternal nature of the conscious self and how the Atman is intimately connected to the supreme.

In the 1920′s quantum mechanics was created by the three great minds: Heisenberg, Bohr and Schrödinger, who all read from and greatly respected the Vedas. They elaborated upon these ancient books of wisdom in their own language and with modern mathematical formulas in order to try to understand the ideas that are to be found throughout the Vedas, referred to in the ancient Sanskrit as “Brahman,” “Paramatma,” “Akasha” and “Atman.” As Schrödinger said, “some blood transfusion from the East to the West to save Western science from spiritual anemia.” Vedic texts such as the Bahgavad-gita and the Upanishads were collectively considered the most influential books ever written by eminent people like Thoreau, Kant, Schopenhauer, Schrödinger, Werner Heisenberg, Tesla, and Einstein, among others.

- See more at: http://www.scienceandnonduality.com...y-and-quantum-mechanics/#sthash.zIX4wdtx.dpuf
 
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Also promote 1000 year Muslim and 150 year British rule over entire subcontinent. And explain reasons why present Pakistan region has never been ruled by Hindu leaders.
 
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