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Hindu-Muslim divide real: Ishaqzaade director

Sickened by the violence in his own film that ensues when a Muslim girl falls in love with a Hindu boy, Habib Faisal has decided to take a long break.

Says the discernibly upset director, "I'm an extremely non-violent person. I knew there was a lot of aggression and violence in Ishaqzaade. I knew we had shot a lot of violent scenes. It's one thing to shoot them. To watch them is quite another. When I watched my two beloved characters encounter such violence my stomach churned. Such was the nature of the subject. You can't make an omelette without breaking eggs. And the sooner we stop trying the better."

To solve the problem of the communal divide Habib Faisal feels we first need to address the issue openly, which our movies fail to do by and large. Smirks Habib, "In that cast we might as well make government-sponsored DAVP (Directorate Of Advertising & Visual Publicity) short-films."

In Ishaqzaade the unabashed treatment of Hindu-Muslim relations has taken audiences by surprise. Never before have we seen characters from the two communities exchanging insults based on communal differences, so openly. In fact the Hindu hero Parma ( Arjun Kapoor) refers to the Muslim heroine Zoya ( Parineeti Chopra) as a 'Mussalli'. Half way through the film he decides to marry the 'Musalli' firebrand. In a graphic love-making sequence in an abandoned train Kapoor and Chopra are shown indulging in serious real time kissing and making out.

Director Habib Faisal admits he was apprehensive of how the censorboard would react. "There's so much Ishaqzaade that we as movie makers and as a society in the larger context tend to sweep under the carpet. But if I as Muslim filmmaker shied away from addressing the issue headlong in attempting a Hindu-Muslim love story, then I think I'd have failed to convey what I had set out to. The censorbard was exceptionally tolerant. The love-making scene is not gratuitous. I shot it in a long single-shot scene. If the censors had asked me to cut I wouldn't have been able to," says Habib a day after the film's release.

As for the boy addressing the girl as 'Mussalli' Habib says, "In the beginning he means to rile her by calling her a 'Mussalli.' Later it becomes his term of endearment for her. Why are focusing on the names? The problem is very deep. Hindus don't even know how to greet Muslims so a social level . They wonder if they should say 'Salaam' or 'Namaste'. In my film when Zoya takes her lover Parma to her house he doesn't know how to greet Zoya's parents. The initiation of a dialogue between two cultures starts on the wrong note."

Habib thinks it is unrealistic to think the divide between Hindu and Muslims doesn't exist. "It does. And to say by addressing the palpable problems that arise when a Hindu boy falls in a love with a Muslim girl is according to me unrealistic. Look around. The Hindu-Muslim divide is everwhere. In a so-called metropolitan city housing societies do not allow Muslims or Hindus depending on which area you're house-hunting in. In fact I've witnessed more communal integrity in rural areas."

As a Muslim Habib became conscious of how deep those differences were after the demolition of the Babri Masjid. "These differences are normally swept under the carpet. I don't think that helps.The fact is, we have not really progressed intellectually in understanding let alone bridging the chasm between the progressive and regressive India. Just the other day a senior police officer in Bangalore publicly endorsed honour killing. Why does a couple belonging to two different cultures or communities have to meet suureptiiously in public places? I'll tell you why. Because every parent, no matter how progressive outwardly,throws a fit if his or her child brings a mate home. This is why I made the Muslim girl Zoya's family an educated relatively sophisticated bunch of people. I wanted to show, no matter how educated people still suffer from lethal prejudices about inter-communal alliances."

What Habib didn't want to show was the small-town UP characters getting abusive in their spoken language. "I knew I had the licence to let them get abusive. But I don't use abusive language in my speech and I'd be uncomfortable if my characters did the same. Besides I find the generous use of BCs and MCs in the films set in the North Indian heartland distracting. Audiences laugh and snigger when a character uses abuses. In this day and age of 'D.K Bose' my demurral on expletives is perhaps a little outdated. I'd rather be true to myself than trendy."

Habib says he watched some Hindi classics about outcast lovers as preparation for directing Ishaqzaade. "I saw Mujhe Jeene Do and Reshma Aur Shera. But it was Dharmputra made in 1961 where I found the issue of the Hindu-Muslim divide being so unabashedly delineated. Coincidentally it was the first film that Mr Yash Chopra directed. Today I've directed another film on the same theme for Mr Chopra's banner."

Habib can't praise Aditya Chopra enough for giving him freedom to make the film he wanted. "Not once did Adi question the hardhitting content and the dialogues. He left it all to me. I suppose it was my destiny. I wouldn't have wanted to make a film on the communal divide without addressing the issue directly."

The director admits he had to work very hard on his two actors, "Arjun Kapoor was put on a six-month trial period to see if he fits into the part of Parma.To his credit he kept at it until he got it right. As for Parinati I had to take her native 'punjaabiyat' out of her and make her this Uttar Pradesh his mussalman ladki Zoya. I was lucky with my actors. Except for Gauhar Khan I wanted no known faces in the supporting cast. I stuck to my guns."

As did the gun-toting characters of Ishaqzaade.


Hindu-Muslim divide real: Ishaqzaade director - The Times of India

Check out the hatred comments between Muslims and Hindus of India.

Hindu-Muslim divide real: Ishaqzaade director - The Times of India
 
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Of course it's real, it's politically, socially, and economically real. Only Hindustanis on this forum think otherwise, we know how they try and project a romantic image of India, nothing could be further from the truth.
 
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This is shocking. India is divided between north and south as well. Is this due to the natural centrifugal tendencies of the Indian state? As we all know, India has been divided for longer times than it has been united. The relatively more prosperous southern coast may pull away from the poorer north, if it were not for the fact that the north controls the military.

Racial discrimination against north-east people a reality: Agatha Sangma - Times Of India
Discrimination is also widely seen against North east indians in india, those people who look similar to Chinese people.

The Hindu : Cities / Hyderabad : Why are we singled out, ask students from North East
 
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Of course it's real, it's politically, socially, and economically real. Only Hindustanis on this forum think otherwise, we know how they try and project a romantic image of India, nothing could be further from the truth.

Well I would think Indians in general would have a good idea of the social climate of the country they are living in compared to Pakistanis. What Habib(the director) is trying to say is that Hindu-Muslim issues become overblown when Hindus and Muslims try to intermarry. For the most part, there is not much of an issue between different religious communities in India today. But when the topic of inter-religious marriage comes up, all sorts of problems are made by the families of both parties wanting to get married, which should not happen.

On a side note, the movie looks good. Looking forward to watch it next week:

Theatrical Trailer - Ishaqzaade - YouTube
 
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This is shocking. India is divided between north and south as well. Is this due to the natural centrifugal tendencies of the Indian state? As we all know, India has been divided for longer times than it has been united. The relatively more prosperous southern coast may pull away from the poorer north, if it were not for the fact that the north controls the military.

Yes, Northern half of India is dominant in the Indian military and hold the bulk of the power both military and government. If you look at most of the northern provinces most military leaders are from that region also many prominent politicians as well. Northern half of India is basically the central power base of the Indian union. Meanwhile, the Southern half of India is the marginalized vassal-state of Northern half of India.
 
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Well I would think Indians in general would have a good idea of the social climate of the country they are living in compared to Pakistanis. What Habib(the director) is trying to say is that Hindu-Muslim issues become overblown when Hindus and Muslims try to intermarry. For the most part, there is not much of an issue between different religious communities in India today. But when the topic of inter-religious marriage comes up, all sorts of problems are made by the families of both parties wanting to get married, which should not happen.

You need to read the article again:

Look around. The Hindu-Muslim divide is everwhere. In a so-called metropolitan city housing societies do not allow Muslims or Hindus depending on which area you're house-hunting in. In fact I've witnessed more communal integrity in rural areas."

Hindu-Muslim divide real: Ishaqzaade director - The Times of India
 
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Hindu's don't like Muslims, plain and simple. No matter how much Indians try to deny it, the truth always shines through... Now if the Muslims want, they can leave India and come to Pak zameen where atleast they won't be discriminated and vilified anymore.

Indian Muslims (of 140-160million) must declare to their own independence, maybe Indiastan or Indigladesh.

yaar sahi naam toh chunno hahaha
 
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Hindu's don't like Muslims, plain and simple. No matter how much Indians try to deny it, the truth always shines through... Now if the Muslims want, they can leave India and come to Pak zameen where atleast they won't be discriminated and vilified anymore.

Pakistan can't hold 170 million additional people. Its best they create their own Muslim country out of india.
 
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Pakistanis and Chini (cherry picker) have comprehension problem ?

There is a divide and its obvious, Pakistanis are not even at agreement with each other on the time for their prayers. We in India knew this divide and live with it the best peaceful way we can with many good examples where such inter religion marriages have been accepted by the society. You will rarely find an Indian wielding guns on such social tractions and doing act of anarchies on streets. Irrespective of this so called divide people are prosperous and living in coexistence.

As far as this director is concerned he needs publicity to endorse his product and topic he has chosen for his films.

For my Pakistani friends not Indian: Known orthodox bigot Muslims telling Hindus how they should not be protective about their girls marrying out religion should do the same. First Muslims siege their women with all the restrictions and barriers with fictional religious nonsense then themselves ox around like pervert Romeos to grooms women not belonging to their religion. Let your women open up and do the mixing as well. Till then shut up.

Hindu's don't like Muslims, plain and simple.

Add Christian, Jews, Sikhs and Buddhist to that list as well. How about converting all Muslims back to normal modern human way of life out of this fictional word the God thingy ''The Apple of discord''.
 
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Hindu's don't like Muslims, plain and simple

That's hardly our problem; they either learn to live with their Masters or create a country for their own/cede their regions to Pakistan. We can't double our population with that little piece of land we have; not to mention Kashmir is also occupied currently.
 
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It is your leader who decided to create a country because of religion.While many decided to migrate to Pakistan in search of a Islamic country some of them thought of staying in India like the Hindus who didnt migrate to India.

Now after 65 years of Independence on the one hand we have India where Muslims are treated equally atleast by the law and the government whats the situation in Pakistan...where reoprts keep comming up of how nicely the minorities are treated??

I am not saying there is no problem..Obviously there is.But we are a secular republic where the Law and the Govt doesnt favour its citizens after seeing their religion.

When Pakistanis are fighting with Pakistanis why cant Indians fight with Indians...and who are you to poke your nose in our internal matters.I guess the Indian Muslim is capable enought to fight for their cause if they are not being treated properly.

It would be the last option for a Indian Muslim to seek Pakistanis help in his own problem.

An Indian muslim answer to Gen. Musharraf - YouTube
 
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Hahaha.. Pakistanis found a proof of their identity from a director's outburst.. Cool.. I think that particular director as an Indian is progressively asking for people to identify the issue so to solve it peacefully. Pakistanis here are desperate to prove a regressive step of separating a country based on religion as an ideal one. What a shame.
 
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Wow..Cannot believe the number of Indian and Pakistani trolls in this thread. Agreed there has been a religious divide in India but honestly it's dating back to the time of partition in India and given that even a century hasn't passed yet it still simmers under the surface. But it's no different than the divide between the rich and poor, language divide and numerous such instances we see around. Stop spamming with religious bigotism and learn to respect religions and people trolls.
 
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You need to read the article again:

Look around. The Hindu-Muslim divide is everwhere. In a so-called metropolitan city housing societies do not allow Muslims or Hindus depending on which area you're house-hunting in. In fact I've witnessed more communal integrity in rural areas."

Hindu-Muslim divide real: Ishaqzaade director - The Times of India

The comments under that article are really horrific.

It looks like the Hindu-Muslim hatred from partition is still alive and kicking.
 
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Certianly there is a cultural divide between two communities all over india ....not only between hindus & muslims...but marathas & rajpoots....punjabis & bengalis....tamils & mallus ...and many more. India's beauty lies in such cultural diversities ....

subah mandir k bhajan....gurubaani ki awaaz aur masjid ki aazaan sunke jo bache bade hote hai ....they know how to respect other cultures & how to be faithful with their own cultural identity.

I personally remember things during my engineering days.... how me & my many hindu friends use to keep ROJA in holy month of ramzaan....attending iftaar prayers at masjid .... waking all night and listening verses & doing DUA on Badi Raat in ramzan....same about my muslim friend's ...they celebrated holi with us ..enjoy kite flying in sankranti festivals....lightinging crackers in diwaali nights.

I feel pity for wet dreamers here....jo iss diversity ka alag matlab nikaaltey hai.... I have son of 4 years but he know hindu aartis & 3 Kalmaas ( learnt from muslim neighbourhood families) ....people who draw such stupid conclusions from some bollywood flicks or some director's comment should come india & see realities instead of brainfarting here !

People who have no idea about how tolerant common indian are keep taking about indian hindu or muslim independence !! keep on talking & farting .... no worries but if you really wanna know reality then to open eye visit india !!
 
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