Hillary Clinton: "We discovered Japan for Heaven sakes"

[chauism]

Wow!! You guys are all reading this so wrongly. She means the US beat the Europeans to trading with Japan. That's what she means by discovering them first. The Europeans have always been secondary to Japan ever since.

Japan has been trading with Portugal long before US "discovered" it during Oda Nabunaga period. Since then Portugal was the only western country were permitted to trade in Japan. What US did was force Japan to open itself to them instead of Portugal only. The idiocy and arrogance here is just unbelievable.

Here is the full paragraph



Sounds like a Eurocentric view of things, but its a minor detail in what was the topic, and I think was meant to illustrate how ludicrous Chinese claims are.

Please remind me how the Republic of Hawaii was overthrown and was annexed by US.

United States Public Law 103-150, informally known as the Apology Resolution, is a Joint Resolution of the U.S. Congress adopted in 1993 that "acknowledges that the overthrow of the Kingdom of Hawaii occurred with the active participation of agents and citizens of the United States and further acknowledges that the Native Hawaiian people never directly relinquished to the United States their claims to their inherent sovereignty as a people over their national lands, either through the Kingdom of Hawaii or through a plebiscite or referendum" (U.S. Public Law 103-150 (107 Stat. 1510)). The resolution has been cited as a major impetus for the Hawaiian sovereignty movement, and has been the subject of intense debate.[1][2][3][4][5]

The Resolution was adopted by both houses of the United States Congress on November 23, 1993. A joint resolution, it was signed by President of the United States Bill Clinton on the same day.

The resolution was passed in the Senate by a vote of 65-34. In the House, it was passed by a two-thirds voice vote. It was sponsored on January 21, 1993, as S.J.Res.19 by Daniel Akaka and co-sponsored by Daniel Inouye, both Democratic senators from Hawaii.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apology_Resolution

 

[terranMarine]

Japan has been trading with Portugal long before US "discovered" it during Oda Nabunaga period. Since then Portugal was the only western country were permitted to trade in Japan.

Nope there was another European country too. See Nagasaki

 

[chauism]

Nope there was another European country too. See Nagasaki

Yes, you are right. I forgot about the presence of Dutch in Japan back then.

 

[bbccdd1470]

Well the Portugeuse did slave trading in China (took over Macau mid 1500's), Korea, and Japan in the late 1500's so you probably are correct.

Are you sure that was "took" over from Ming? Go and do some research first. However, one thing I'm pretty sure USA was the first country that forced Japan to sign unequal treaty and to open their ports to trade.

 

[powastick]

I'm not surprise. Japan is a defeated country like Germany.

 

[TaiShang]

The leaked emails show what sort of a demented warmonger Hillary is going to be if elected president -- although, I suspect she would survive the entire presidency.

Japanese should take clue of what sort of government they got to deal with. No wonder the US military is conducting itself as it is in Okinawa. There is total disrespect and arrogance.

The level the US popular politics has been reduced to is amazing. One can learn as much lesson from this experience as from the fall of the USSR. The potential difference would be that whereas the USSR had the ability to rise from its ashes more or less unscathed, the US, once falling into chaos, would never had a chance to arise, especially if/once its demographic make up goes beyond the point of reversing into a white dominated society.

 

[Götterdämmerung]

What Clinton said is basically that Chinas claim to all of SCS is as valid as an US claim to all of the Pacific.
The statement is used to show how poor the Chinese claim is...

The statement about missiles is a warning to China about North Korea.
If China lets North Korea develop ICBM/Nuclear technology, then the US will take measures
to defend allies in the area. Nothing controversial about that.

"discovered Japan" is a bit strange, but since it was said in conjunction with the US - Japan war,
it would have made more sense to say "defeated Japan" so I suspect this is a slip of the tongue.



It was the Shogun that banned foreigners after he assumed power as a result of Sekigahara year 1600.

The Stockholm Syndrom comes to rescue its hostage-taker.

 

[xunzi]

This is why people don't trust Hilary. She is too emotionally unstable to lead a country.

 

[xyxmt]

Don't underestimate the gullibility and blindness of the masses. Or the numbers that just want free money stolen from those with means and dont care about who's handing it over to them or what that means long term for their society.

There's a reason why revolutions that matter are generally bloody....humans are generally quite fickle and stupid.

I'd like to see what the split is like in the US. We will see on Nov 8th I guess.

well that controlled democracy has no choice but to elect one of the two worst in the country. A population of 230 million and this the best they can find...good luck US

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

The leaked emails show what sort of a demented warmonger Hillary is going to be if elected president -- although, I suspect she would survive the entire presidency.

Japanese should take clue of what sort of government they got to deal with. No wonder the US military is conducting itself as it is in Okinawa. There is total disrespect and arrogance.

The level the US popular politics has been reduced to is amazing. One can learn as much lesson from this experience as from the fall of the USSR. The potential difference would be that whereas the USSR had the ability to rise from its ashes more or less unscathed, the US, once falling into chaos, would never had a chance to arise, especially if/once its demographic make up goes beyond the point of reversing into a white dominated society.

Yes, Japan is really pissed off over the fact that US threatens China that they are going out of their
way to protect Japan and other Asian allies in case China does not rein in North Korea.
Maybe You should take the time reading the emails, instead of just listening to Republican propaganda...

This is why people don't trust Hilary. She is too emotionally unstable to lead a country.

Compared to Donald Trump?
He has an obvious mental disorder...

 

[ahojunk]

well that controlled democracy has no choice but to elect one of the two worst in the country. A population of 230 million and this the best they can find...good luck US

Hey, what are you talking about?

Don't you dare to criticize the American political system. They say it's the best in the world and they go around spreading it to other countries. It's either their way or the highway. What if it is not good for the other countries because of their culture, history, etc. Who cares?

Oh yes, Americans have a choice to choose one from two candidates, but it is still a choice. They are the chosen representative of the two main parties. Who are you to criticize their selection?

The population of US is 330 million, not 230 million. Take care when you type, ok? Americans are not happy when you eliminate 100 million of their people.

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PS. It looks like many of us are having fun on this thread.

 

[Boss Dragun]

Does Americans really have no choice other than these 2?

 

[gambit]

Who are you to criticize their selection?

You are correct. Just like how the PDF Chinese repeatedly told everyone not to criticize their selection of leaders.

 

[Desert Fox]

Idiot demon.
I am surprised that most polls still show this demonic lady ahead even after the email leaks.
It like people don't care at all.
God save America.

The polls are rigged. The entire media is colluding with her as was proven by the Podesta Emails revelation. I have yet to meet anyone who likes Hillary Clinton. On the other hand i have lost count of the Trump supporters i've come across.

Americans want change and Donald Trump is that change.

 

[Lure]

Dude don't get me wrong. But daily mail? Come on..

I don't believe anything that I hear about China in Western news sources by the way. Even most prestegious ones are downgraded to the level of Daily Mail when they are writing an article about a foreign country.

Even US voters don't believe in US media. Why should I believe it from Turkey? And why do they write those articles really? Do they think large masses in China will read this, believe in this so much that they will try to make a revolution and overthrow their own government?

When Demcratic Party mails were hacked&released during DNC and how they rigged their own primary process was publicized, Democrats said such hacked materials are being used by Russia to influence US elections. Then your very unbiased media immediately stopped digging what actually happened in Democratic Primaries (which is by the way the backbone of American democracy if you ask me) and they attacked Trump for cooperating with Russia.

Now let me give you a similar answer.

Panama leaks are used by US media to influence Chinese public.

I don't know if you're a democrat or republican but I hope my answer has satisfied you.