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http://www.economist.com/world/international/displaystory.cfm?story_id=16113081Beyond the burqa
In Islam’s heartlands a covered head has more than one connotation

May 13th 2010 | CAIRO AND ISTANBUL | From The Economist print edition
A far-from-simple fashion statement

IN MUSLIM countries, a conservative head-covering does not always mean being conservative in other ways. Just glance at a couple enjoying the romantic night air in Istanbul; her hair may be hidden, but the rest of her attire is hip-huggingly modern, and there is nothing restrained about the kiss she offers her boyfriend.

Odd as it might sound to Western ears, for many women in the Islamic world dressing “Islamically” may be a choice that has been freely taken for reasons of religion, politics or even fashion: one that is especially pointed in countries where the right to cover one’s head is restricted by law or secularist convention.

There are some places, like Saudi Arabia and Iran, where women must cover their heads; in others, notably Turkey and Tunisia, female civil servants along with pupils in state education are banned from concealing their hair. To the horror of Turkey’s secular establishment, the wives of the president and prime minister both cover their heads; hence they are barred from many state institutions, including some hospitals. On April 29th a prosecutor quashed a claim from a secularist group that the two ladies had committed a crime by attending public ceremonies in scarves.

In the rest of the Middle East, most women don a veil of one kind or another, though almost none wears the burqa. In Iran many women defy the strictures of the Islamic republic’s dress-code with token scarves, short coats and heavy make-up. They suffer in an annual campaign against “bad hijab”, kicking off now. In spring and summer women whose scarves are deemed flimsy or whose ankles are too conspicuous are taken to police stations to sign statements vowing to dress more modestly.

In other countries, where there is more choice in the matter, the reasons for veiling are more complex. In Egypt’s socialist heyday, few wore the veil. In the 1970s and 1980s, as political Islam gained ground, many covered up as a sign of growing piety and conservatism. There were practical benefits too. Islamic garb enabled women to work alongside men without attracting opprobrium from strict male relatives. Something similar applies in provincial Turkey, where the scarf has made it easier for women to be active in public.

The hijab is now so popular, in many places where it is not compulsory, that it is no longer much of a political statement. In Egypt magazines such as Hijab Fashion have proliferated, along with shops selling bejewelled and beribboned scarves. In Cairo young women match the colour of their veils with that of their tunics, handbags, make-up and shoes. In Damascus they top fashionable outfits with tightly wound white scarves. Little flesh is on show, but the tight outfits suggest that not all veil-wearers are pious.

The niqab, though, remains controversial. Shortly before his recent death, Sayed Tantawi, who was Egypt’s senior Muslim cleric, told an 11-year-old girl to remove her niqab, saying it was not Islamic. Egypt’s leaders dislike the garment but have yet to outlaw it. Periodic bans in universities and government offices have been couched in the language of security.

Politics plays a role too. In Egypt those pushing for the niqab tend to be zealous Salafists, so pure that even the Muslim Brotherhood, Egypt’s main Islamist opposition, is wary of them. Cracking down on the niqab may be a way for the government to muzzle one group of opponents.

Afghanistan is the only country where women wear the burqa in any great numbers. Some cast it off after the Taliban’s overthrow, but many more did not. Afghan feminists—and there are such brave souls—say challenging this may not be the most urgent task in a society where imposing change from outside can often backfire.
 
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Women and veils: Running for cover | The Economist

Women and veils
Running for cover
Both in Western Europe and the Muslim world (see article) the covering of female heads and faces is stirring passion—and posing a dilemma for governments

May 13th 2010 | PARIS | From The Economist print edition

STRIKING a balance between personal and religious freedom, and the ideals of common citizenship, is proving to be an enormous test for all European countries with large Muslim populations—especially when some seem determined to assert, or even caricature, the practices of their homelands.

Certain things are easily settled: virtually everybody in Europe agrees in abhorring female genital mutilation, as practised in bits of Africa; or the harsh punishment of children in Koranic schools, which has occurred in Britain. But in recent months a third controversy has shown up contrasts between European countries and within them. This is over female headgear—and in particular, forms of dress in which all, or virtually all, the face is hidden. These include the head-covering burqa; and the commoner niqab, in which only a slit is left for the eyes. The burqa, imposed on Afghan women by the Taliban, has become a catchall term for headgear in which the face is wholly or mainly concealed.

Last month 136 of Belgium’s 138 lower-house legislators (who agree on little else, leaving their country near paralysis) voted to outlaw the burqa. Belgian police already have the right to stop people masking their faces, under an old security law; and in some cities this right is invoked to issue warnings to burqa-wearers, who number only a few dozen in the country. So it is hard to see what need the law serves. But a parliamentarian in Brussels said it created a rare moment of “pride in being Belgian” by “smashing the lock that has left quite a lot of women in slavery.” He hoped at least four European countries would follow.

This week France’s parliament approved a resolution deploring full-face cover, and legislation is due shortly. In Switzerland one of the 26 cantons has voted to work for a nationwide ban; the justice minister, Eveline Widmer-Schlumpf, backs a ban, at least in cantons that want it. The Dutch authorities considered outlawing the burqa, then stepped back. But in Europe as a whole, the idea of making people show their faces is no longer a xenophobic fantasy, but a mainstream political project.

With a fresh election due in June, Belgium’s law is on hold; but it may be the first of many European bans on “all clothing hiding the face totally, or mostly.” Belgian women who wear the burqa in public will risk a modest fine or even seven days’ jail. In Italy a woman was fined €500 ($630) last week for wearing the burqa in a town where the Northern League mayor had barred clothing that hinders police checks.

The resolution passed by French legislators has no legal force but it has huge symbolic impact. Recalling the 1789 Declaration of Human Rights, it says the all-over veil “puts women in a relationship of subordination to men”. On grounds of “dignity” and “equality between men and women”, it judges the garment “contrary to the values of the republic”. A law to ban the burqa will go to cabinet on May 19th.

In some places such moves have been promoted by the far right. Italy’s Northern League, which wants a national burqa ban, is xenophobic. In Britain the anti-European United Kingdom Independence Party is the only party to agitate for a burqa ban. Ed Balls, a minister in the outgoing Labour government, said it was “not British” to tell people what to wear in the street. Jack Straw, a senior Labour figure who once voiced dismay over women who hid their face when meeting him, is still “fundamentally opposed” to a ban. And Barack Obama said in Cairo last year that Western countries should not be “dictating what clothes a Muslim woman should wear”.

In France, by contrast, the backers of a ban are neither extremists nor fringe feminists. It was first mooted by Nicolas Sarkozy, the centre-right president, who said last year that the burqa was “not welcome” on French soil. The first to call for a parliamentary motion was André Gerin, a Communist. This week’s resolution won broad support, including from the Socialists.

In many ways, the French move is the most intriguing test. France is home to Europe’s biggest Muslim minority, numbering 5m to 6m. It expects immigrants, or their offspring, of all faiths to adapt to French ways, not the other way round. France holds dear the ideal of laïcité, a strict ban on religion in the public arena that emerged from anticlerical struggles in the 19th century. It was in the name of laïcité that France banned the Muslim headscarf (and other “conspicuous” religious symbols) in state schools in 2004.

But France’s leaders do not cite laïcité as a reason for the burqa ban; to do so, they note, would mean accepting that hiding female faces is mandated by Islam. Most influential Muslims in France, including the French Council of the Muslim Faith (CFCM), an official body, and Fadela Amara, a female Muslim minister, reject that reading. Mohammed Moussaoui, head of the CFCM, says “no Koranic text prescribes the wearing of the burqa or niqab.”

So the upcoming law—stating that “nobody may wear clothing that masks the face in any public place”—has been justified on two other grounds. One is security, and the need to be identifiable. (There was consternation earlier this year when two men clad in burqas robbed a post office near Paris.) The other is human dignity and equality between the sexes. “This is not a religious question,” argues Jean-François Copé, parliamentary leader of the ruling UMP party. Most French people view the burqa as a clear token of oppression; if libertarians defend it, this is seen as implying softness on ills such as domestic violence.

Recent news has reinforced that view. This week, in a town west of Paris, police arrested a man suspected of forcing his wife to wear the burqa, and of raping and beating her. (With such cases in mind, the upcoming French law would reserve the harshest penalties for a man found to have made his wife wear the burqa.) Mr Copé firmly rejects the idea that France is unjustifiably curbing liberty. He notes that: “On Fifth Avenue, you do not have the liberty to walk down the street completely nude.”

The motives of young French Muslim women—sometimes more inclined to hide their faces than their mothers were—are hotly contested. Many French analysts say a “re-veiling” trend among young girls reflects manipulation by zealots. Although no more than 2,000 women in France cover their face, the phenomenon is growing. Dounia Bouzar, a French Muslim anthropologist, told a parliamentary inquiry that many of the women were young. Intelligence sources say two-thirds are French nationals, and nearly a quarter converts. Many come from North Africa, where there is no face-covering tradition.

So France’s leaders are determined to press ahead. Two risks stand out. First, the ban, which some see as a ruse by Mr Sarkozy to woo far-right voters, may stigmatise Islam and create a defensive reaction. (This is why Mr Moussaoui, who dislikes the burqa, opposes a ban.) As the debate took off, a mosque in south-east France was sprayed with gunfire.

Second, it is unclear how the ban would work in practice. The Conseil d’Etat, the highest administrative court, has questioned the legal basis for the ban. And what about foreigners? Mr Copé says that the ban would apply to visitors too: but would women from the Gulf states be hauled away from smart boutiques?

And then there are other problems: how could one prove that a woman wore a burqa under orders from her menfolk? And isn’t there a risk of such women facing further isolation in the home? That would be an odd result for a law designed in part to ensure sexual equality.
 
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Lanat on hijab burqa and niqab! All of this is unislamic and BIDAH! This should be illegal like in france! Allah bless france! ALLAH HAS NIQABI AUR HIJABI KO JAHNNUM KI AAG MEIN JAALAAE AMEEN!

Amen and Hallelujah - Cistah girl
 
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From what i understand, "hijab" is mandatory in Islam. Therefore i am opposed to the ban on headscarves. However, the "burqa" and "niqab" must be outlawed and the ban strictly enforced.

Any chance you can help me out and tell me exactly where in Quran it says Hijab is mandatory
 
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Lanat on hijab burqa and niqab! All of this is unislamic and BIDAH! This should be illegal like in france! Allah bless france! ALLAH HAS NIQABI AUR HIJABI KO JAHNNUM KI AAG MEIN JAALAAE AMEEN!

freedom ke bary main kya khayal hai yaar? hijab tak to theek hai i think

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Any chance you can help me out and tell me exactly where in Quran it says Hijab is mandatory

I am not sure. Its what I've been told by so many. Its not true then? However, being a non-muslim , its not my place to make comments about it. Sorry.
 
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Don't take my word for it - because of course being secular and liberal, and facist, my telling you that it's complete BS that it is mandatory, is, suspect -- do your own research
 
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Lanat on hijab burqa and niqab! All of this is unislamic and BIDAH! This should be illegal like in france! Allah bless france! ALLAH HAS NIQABI AUR HIJABI KO JAHNNUM KI AAG MEIN JAALAAE AMEEN!
Mr these are orders of Islam you have proved a lot by writing this anti Islam statement Hijab and Niqab are the orders of ALLAH and secular traitors are biggest curse on our society
 
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Mr these are orders of Islam you have proved a lot by writing this anti Islam statement Hijab and Niqab are the orders of ALLAH and secular traitors are biggest curse on our society
And here comes the patriotic Muslim in the name Zarvan or should I say the Idiotic Muslim?
 
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Any chance you can help me out and tell me exactly where in Quran it says Hijab is mandatory
ميرى خدمات حاصل كرو

It's "Dupat'tah" or "Chaadar" to be exact but for convenience ladies came up with "hijab" coz dupattah & chaddar are difficult to fix in position especially for working women...

Quran:33:59
O Prophet! Tell thy wives and thy daughters and the women of the believers that they should cast their outer garments over their persons . That will be better, so that they may be recognised and not annoyed. Allah is ever Forgiving, Merciful


Quran:[24:31] And tell the believing women to subdue their eyes, and maintain their chastity. They shall not reveal any parts of their bodies, except that which is necessary. They shall cover their chests, and shall not relax this code in the presence of other than their husbands, their fathers, the fathers of their husbands, their sons, the sons of their husbands, their brothers, the sons of their brothers, the sons of their sisters, other women, the male servants or employees whose sexual drive has been nullified, or the children who have not reached puberty. They shall not strike their feet when they walk in order to shake and reveal certain details of their bodies. All of you shall repent to GOD, O you believers, that you may succeed.

Abu dawood:27:4092
Narrated Aisha, Ummul Mu'minin:

Asma, daughter of AbuBakr, entered upon the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) wearing thin clothes. The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) turned his attention from her. He said: O Asma', when a woman reaches the age of menstruation, it does not suit her that she displays her parts of body except this and this, and he pointed to her face and hands.

From what i understand, "hijab" is mandatory in Islam. Therefore i am opposed to the ban on headscarves. However, the "burqa" and "niqab" must be outlawed and the ban strictly enforced.
Yes, face covering is NOT required & identifying oneself at certain places is necessary... so face-hiding a.k.a "NIKAB/Burka" can surely be banned...
 
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And here comes the patriotic Muslim in the name Zarvan or should I say the Idiotic Muslim?
and who are you to judge a muslim a better muslim or bitter muslim????

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Mr these are orders of Islam you have proved a lot by writing this anti Islam statement Hijab and Niqab are the orders of ALLAH and secular traitors are biggest curse on our society
yar again you are telling those about ALLAH's order who make fun of them. please please. stay out of there discussions. an indian hindu is telling them what is and what should be islam no modren islam..
leave it.
 
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