High tech export: india is worse than Philippines

[Dungeness]

Again my disdain really only focuses on the whole repeat repeat repeat red book CPC style quoting from members/people I think can do lot better. Is the whole strategy to just engage in same behaviour they accuse other nationalities of being like, and then claim some higher ground on the back of a particular forum having its own ingrained sycophancy inherently? Seems dubious at best, and extremely egotistical and bad for their own country at worst. If you truly claim you are not boastful, why not act it?

Your wall of text lost me, so I am going to respond to this quoted part only.

I know you are lot of smarter and informed than what your last post could show, but your rationality to engage those "certain Chinese members" is just the same as that of their engaging of "certain Indian members", so you are not in any higher moral ground. Could it be your countrymen, politicians/media/forumers' endless bragging that enticed the reactions from members with different nationalities in the first place?

In all fairness, people from other countries just don't make so many "predictions and announcements" then fail to deliver them, which is considered a negative trait in Chinese culture and it has nothing to do with CCP.

By the way, the use of term "brainwash" could go either way, so better no to use it in discussion.

 

[Dungeness]

and again...replace religion with CPC worship and one can just as well define that as goofing around. At least with religion there is loyalty to grander and larger morals and there is basic identification that human constructs are always scaled imperfection.

I don't agree that CPC is some kind of worship like a religion. Being a member of CPC is a conscious personal choice, and one has to be an adult to make this choice, as oppose to being born into, like those live in religious countries or religious families. Associating a higher moral with a religion is just a "Make Believe" if you are willing to see the ground reality of today's world, and so called loyalty to the religion means none other than the incapability of independent thinking.

For many Chinese like me, we would support any ruling party that can do heck of a job for people of China, and we don't really care if that ruling party happened to have "Communist" in their name.

 

[Han Patriot]

You have studied zero about what Deng Xiaopeng did. Come back and talk when you go through it all first. For starters you can look at what the % of GDP given as credit to private sector in China was in the 90s because of it....and how that compares to India even today. Socio-economic development is certainly important as well, but its not a 100% thing for liquidity fuelled mercantile aspect, not even close (one can simply ask why hasnt the nominal USD liquidity access/production arrived for half or third or quarter of Indian population at the same claimed socioeconomic development as Median China say back in the 90s and 2000s). Neither will GST resolve it in India case overnight (because thats an ongoing development), but certainly direction is better than before.

Ya only you know right? Do you even know when tax reform happened in China? When was GST and service tax introduced in China?

What has % of credit given to private sector got to do with taxes? You are assuming and hoping with GST reforms in India, you can achieve parity with China. That is not the case here bhai, there are many more factors, India politically, culturally and structurally cannot be the China. You will only be the next India.

Socie-economic development is the KEY not just one of the factors. Even back in the 80s, our social parameters were better than Indian parameters now. What is a liquidity fueled mercantile aspect? You just invented a new word. You can just use credit fueled capitalist economic model instead.

Wtf is liquidity access? You mean credit access? Are you asking me why credit/production value ratio? Dude, can you speak in proper terms? What is your question. Be coherent please. Don't go Hindu on me. Of course but you are saying as if GST will help you reach parity, this is the typical supa powa thinking, demonetization will solve all corruption kinda mentality. Modi will save us all and clear the slums. It's a system genius, not one man nor single move can solve everything. You need to solve and resolve multiple issues and create structural reforms. The most critical being how to distribute and store food. Typical Indian mentality.

Btw, this is the meaning of liquidity, please use the word credit instead.

Liquidity is the term used to describe how easy it is to convert assets to cash. The most liquid asset, and what everything else is compared to, is cash. This is because it can always be used easily and immediately

 

[TaiShang]

I don't agree that CPC is some kind of worship like a religion. Being a member of CPC is a conscious personal choice, and one has to be an adult to make this choice, as oppose to being born into, like those live in religious countries or religious families. Associating a higher moral with a religion is just a "Make Believe" if you are willing to see the ground reality of today's world, and so called loyalty to the religion means none other than the incapability of independent thinking.

For many Chinese like me, we would support any ruling party that can do heck of a job for people of China, and we don't really care if that ruling party happened to have "Communist" in their name.

This is how they distract and derail. The main argument of the thread is that India lags the Philippines in high-tech export. Simple and easy.

Yet, Indians tickle and fickle to find a way to derail and then people got to discuss religion. Besides, in terms of believing a religion like zombies, India would beat down anybody else except die-hard religious zealots who blow themselves up to hoard up some after-life women (and men).

If one having a good chance of being killed for disrespecting a cow is not the worse form of brainwashing, what is it?

Anyways, on topic, India has no chance to beat SEA in economic development (comparing India and China is blasphemous) and, worse yet, they have no fertile grounds for revolutionary change to speed things up. Cow speed development will only make them progress regressively. Hence, SP2012.

 

[AnnoyingOrange]

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http://www.worldatlas.com/articles/countries-with-the-most-high-tech-exports.html
@Martian2 Thanks for the link

China’s leading position in high-tech exports is a myth created by outdated trade statistics, which are inconsistent with the trade based on global supply chains. Assembled high-tech products, made with imported key parts and components, accounted for 82% of China’s high-tech exports. Current trade statistics mistakenly credit entire values of these assembled products to China, thus greatly inflate the export value. For instance, in 2009 China’s export in the iPhone amounted US$4.6 billion, of which only 3.6% was the value added by Chinese workers; its annual export in laptop PC valued at US$52 billion, but assembly accounted for only 3% of the gross value. In addition, 83% of China’s high-tech exports was attributed to foreign invested firms, in particular Taiwanese owned companies. Taiwan-IT companies have relocated 95% of their production/assembly capacity into and transferred mainland China to a top assembler of information and communication technology, such as laptop PCs, digital cameras and all i-products.

http://www.industrytap.com/global-high-tech-export-myths-realities/41309

 

[Beast]

China’s leading position in high-tech exports is a myth created by outdated trade statistics, which are inconsistent with the trade based on global supply chains. Assembled high-tech products, made with imported key parts and components, accounted for 82% of China’s high-tech exports. Current trade statistics mistakenly credit entire values of these assembled products to China, thus greatly inflate the export value. For instance, in 2009 China’s export in the iPhone amounted US$4.6 billion, of which only 3.6% was the value added by Chinese workers; its annual export in laptop PC valued at US$52 billion, but assembly accounted for only 3% of the gross value. In addition, 83% of China’s high-tech exports was attributed to foreign invested firms, in particular Taiwanese owned companies. Taiwan-IT companies have relocated 95% of their production/assembly capacity into and transferred mainland China to a top assembler of information and communication technology, such as laptop PCs, digital cameras and all i-products.

http://www.industrytap.com/global-high-tech-export-myths-realities/41309

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/huawei-kirin-970-ai-news/amp/

Maybe some smart Alec will claim huawei is a European country or the chipset is stolen from India.

How many chipset for smartphone India made and export? Zero

 

[AndrewJin]

Ya only you know right? Do you even know when tax reform happened in China? When was GST and service tax introduced in China?

What has % of credit given to private sector got to do with taxes? You are assuming and hoping with GST reforms in India, you can achieve parity with China. That is not the case here bhai, there are many more factors, India politically, culturally and structurally cannot be the China. You will only be the next India.

Socie-economic development is the KEY not just one of the factors. Even back in the 80s, our social parameters were better than Indian parameters now. What is a liquidity fueled mercantile aspect? You just invented a new word. You can just use credit fueled capitalist economic model instead.

Wtf is liquidity access? You mean credit access? Are you asking me why credit/production value ratio? Dude, can you speak in proper terms? What is your question. Be coherent please. Don't go Hindu on me. Of course but you are saying as if GST will help you reach parity, this is the typical supa powa thinking, demonetization will solve all corruption kinda mentality. Modi will save us all and clear the slums. It's a system genius, not one man nor single move can solve everything. You need to solve and resolve multiple issues and create structural reforms. The most critical being how to distribute and store food. Typical Indian mentality.

Btw, this is the meaning of liquidity, please use the word credit instead.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/huawei-kirin-970-ai-news/amp/

Maybe some smart Alec will claim huawei is a European country or the chipset is stolen from India.

How many chipset for smartphone India made and export? Zero

Those RSSers once again have no idea about high tech experts

This is how they distract and derail. The main argument of the thread is that India lags the Philippines in high-tech export. Simple and easy.

Yet, Indians tickle and fickle to find a way to derail and then people got to discuss religion. Besides, in terms of believing a religion like zombies, India would beat down anybody else except die-hard religious zealots who blow themselves up to hoard up some after-life women (and men).

If one having a good chance of being killed for disrespecting a cow is not the worse form of brainwashing, what is it?

Anyways, on topic, India has no chance to beat SEA in economic development (comparing India and China is blasphemous) and, worse yet, they have no fertile grounds for revolutionary change to speed things up. Cow speed development will only make them progress regressively. Hence, SP2012.

Any topic related to indians will be dragged into religion.

Why do they always derail and deflect? Because they have no answer or they refuse to acknowledge the truth.

 

[TaiShang]

Technology means creativity and application.

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JD.com to build drone airports to promote logistics services
China Plus, December 05, 2017

Liu Qiangdong, founder and CEO of Chinese e-commerce giant JD.com, has announced plans to build 185 drone airports in Sichuan Province in order to promote logistics services in rural areas, ithomes.com reports.

Workers prepare to attach a package onto a drone in Xi'an, capital of northwest China's Shaanxi Province, June 20, 2017. Delivering goods to terminal customers through drones has been normalized by JD.com since June 18, 2017 in Xi'an. [Photo/Xinhua]

Liu has made the revelation as part of a speech at the World Internet Conference in Wuzhen, Zhejiang Province, on December 4, 2017.

"Due to the high costs of logistics, agricultural products sell at higher prices in cities while industrial products sell at higher prices in remote rural areas," said Liu.

Liu Qiangdong said JD.com is already using a large network of drones in Shaanxi and Sichuan provinces, and plans to use drones to deliver agricultural products from rural areas in Sichuan to cities across the country within 24 hours, cutting the logistics costs in rural areas by 50 to 70 percent.

This is not Liu's first move aimed at poverty alleviation. On November 28, 2017, the internet entrepreneur was inaugurated as honorary chief of Pingshitou Village in Fuping County, Hebei Province, one of the most impoverished areas in the region.

In a post on his microblog, Liu set a target to have a tenfold increase in the village's average household income within five years, with all the villagers being lifted out of poverty.

http://www.china.org.cn/business/2017-12/05/content_50085951.htm

 

[AndrewJin]

Technology means creativity and application.

***

JD.com to build drone airports to promote logistics services
China Plus, December 05, 2017

Liu Qiangdong, founder and CEO of Chinese e-commerce giant JD.com, has announced plans to build 185 drone airports in Sichuan Province in order to promote logistics services in rural areas, ithomes.com reports.

Workers prepare to attach a package onto a drone in Xi'an, capital of northwest China's Shaanxi Province, June 20, 2017. Delivering goods to terminal customers through drones has been normalized by JD.com since June 18, 2017 in Xi'an. [Photo/Xinhua]

Liu has made the revelation as part of a speech at the World Internet Conference in Wuzhen, Zhejiang Province, on December 4, 2017.

"Due to the high costs of logistics, agricultural products sell at higher prices in cities while industrial products sell at higher prices in remote rural areas," said Liu.

Liu Qiangdong said JD.com is already using a large network of drones in Shaanxi and Sichuan provinces, and plans to use drones to deliver agricultural products from rural areas in Sichuan to cities across the country within 24 hours, cutting the logistics costs in rural areas by 50 to 70 percent.

This is not Liu's first move aimed at poverty alleviation. On November 28, 2017, the internet entrepreneur was inaugurated as honorary chief of Pingshitou Village in Fuping County, Hebei Province, one of the most impoverished areas in the region.

In a post on his microblog, Liu set a target to have a tenfold increase in the village's average household income within five years, with all the villagers being lifted out of poverty.

http://www.china.org.cn/business/2017-12/05/content_50085951.htm

Wait, but Indian milltary used DJI drones to spy Pakistan

 

[Beast]

Those RSSers once again have no idea about high tech experts

The Indian are very ignorant. They don't know the IGBT, so called the brain for fuxing HSR are 100percent made in China. Same as huawei smartphone already using domestic produced chipset. They still think China smartphone and HSR only used foreign chipset. No wonder their economy so way behind China.

No, Indian will claim these chipset as potatoes chip which qualify only as low tech export

Maybe these will make Indian feel better?

 

[AndrewJin]

The Indian are very ignorant. They don't know the IGBT, so called the brain for fuxing HSR are 100percent made in China. Same as huawei smartphone already using domestic produced chipset. They still think China smartphone and HSR only used foreign chipset. No wonder their economy so way behind China.

No, Indian will claim these chipset as potatoes chip which qualify only as low tech export

Maybe these will make Indian feel better?

https://www.economictimes.com/industry/transportation/railways/chinese-firm-exports-transistor-chips-for-indian-locomotives/amp_articleshow/55436249.cms

Now, those people are gonna jump here up and down to claim these IGBT chips are make in india.

And wait, this is world’s second factory of this kind in the world, I think the first one is in India?

 

[Beast]

May I know how many of this Indian export? Zero. Do Indian even know what is high tech export? Let me show you the real competitive world and what is real high tech export.

https://gbtimes.com/largest-chinese-made-tunnel-boring-machine-completed

 

[AndrewJin]

View attachment 440852 May I know how many of this Indian export? Zero. Do Indian even know what is high tech export? Let me show you the real competitive world and what is real high tech export.

https://gbtimes.com/largest-chinese-made-tunnel-boring-machine-completed

Most Chinese metro lines are subway/underground, most Indian ones are elevated with just a few exceptions.

India will have to import more TBMs if they want real modern metro systems.

Sydney imported Chinese TBM for their new metro line, a right move to improve their abysmal public transport.

 

[AnnoyingOrange]

Most Chinese metro lines are subway/underground, most Indian ones are elevated with just a few exceptions.

India will have to import more TBMs if they want real modern metro systems.

Sydney imported Chinese TBM for their new metro line, a right move to improve their abysmal public transport.

And.. Chinese High IQ displayed again.....
India metro system uses a hybrid model as it is cost effective... there are enough TBMs both Imported and Indian Made to meet demands...

 

[Beast]

And.. Chinese High IQ displayed again.....
India metro system uses a hybrid model as it is cost effective... there are enough TBMs both Imported and Indian Made to meet demands...

There is no india made TBM. Don't be delusion.

Check out where this monster shipped from. Not from Mumbai or Chennai.

https://www.google.com/amp/m.timeso...etro-iii-project/amp_articleshow/60379460.cms

https://www.google.com/amp/zeenews....nel-boring-machine-for-india_1877511.html/amp