High cost of Indian Mirage 2000 fighter upgrade causing a rethink

[SpArK]

Maybe.

Lets see what happens.

But Rafale is one cracker of a machine to have.

Yeahhhh you are the man...

 

[Markus]

Will it be F-16 Block IN ??? So will it be F-16s Without AESA or With AESA as F-18s under MMRCA will already will have an AESA Radar ????

No, he had mentioned Block 60.

Block 70 will never materialize.

 

[SpArK]

A nice pic of Su-30's and Mirage2K's

 

[Ishan]

No, he had mentioned Block 60.

Block 70 will never materialize.

Will it Finalise for Sure or what are chances ??? That wud be a really be Shocker for Everyone if that Happens

 

[SpArK]

Will it Finalise for Sure or what are chances ??? That wud be a really be Shocker for Everyone if that Happens

Its just speculation.. nothing reliable has come up to suggesting something like that..

So lets do what we do at most times..

Waiting...

 

[sudhir007]

Ist we hear that deal is around 2.1billion dollar not 2.4 billion euro. ????
why not buy 100 lca MK1 or 40-50 Gripen IN it is new fighter with AESA more capable then old mirage

 

[rockstarIN]

By early next we will come to know, who will be the winner as IAF chief keen to sign the contract in mid 2011. Anyway is MMS going to any foreign country that time? can speculate a bit...

 

[rockstarIN]

Ist we hear that deal is around 2.1billion dollar not 2.4 billion euro. ????
why not buy 100 lca MK1 or 40-50 Gripen IN it is new fighter with AESA more capable then old mirage

LCA MKI is capable than our current mirage fleet?

 

[sudhir007]

LCA MKI is capable than our current mirage fleet?

No dear Im Gripen IN

 

[Ishan]

Its just speculation.. nothing reliable has come up to suggesting something like that..

So lets do what we do at most times..

Waiting...

I Just Hope They Free Us Frm This Long Long Wait .

 

[GORKHALI]

Benny ,actully you might remember the interview in which reporter asked about this expensive upgrade to PV Naik and he said yes!its true 40m$ is quiet high per plane but when you look at it with the perespective of training ,experience and infrastructure .it's actully quiet right price .Also a new variant say Rafale atleast take 5years wo khete hai na Haath baitana. No doubt Mirage is still a beloved plane for IAF and They are ready to pay this expensive upgradation so that it can hang on for 15years atleast and ultimately replaced by AMCA.

 

[SpArK]

Raytheon Flies AESA Retrofit Radar In F-16​

Dec 2, 2010



By Graham Warwick

An international customer could order the first active, electronically scanned array (AESA) radar upgrade for the Lockheed Martin F-16 in 2011, moving ahead of the still-undecided U.S. Air Force, Raytheon says.



The company has completed flight trials of its Raytheon Advanced Combat Radar (RACR) in a U.S. Air Force F-16D Block 50 at Edwards AFB, Calif. The six flights were conducted in July, but have just been announced.

Northrop Grumman flew its competing Scalable Agile Beam Radar (SABR) on an F-16 at Edwards in January, in support of a U.S. Air Force AESA feasibility study.

The July flights were the first time RACR had flown in any platform, says Ken Murphy, Raytheon business development manager. Northrop’s SABR previously had flown on the company’s Sabreliner testbed.

Murphy says the RACR went from concept to flight on the F-16 in 24 months because it is 90% common with the APG-79 AESA on the F/A-18E/F and the APG-82 being installed on the F-15E.

The Edwards flights demonstrated air-to-air and air-to-ground modes including high-resolution synthetic-aperture radar (SAR) imaging with ground moving-target indication overlay, he says. Air combat modes were demonstrated and the radar integrated with the F-16’s joint helmet-mounted cuing system.


Efforts to sell AESA upgrades to F-16 operators are picking up pace. “I think next year will be the turning point when international customers move ahead of the U.S. Air Force,” Murphy says.


USAF is looking at extending the service life of its F-16s because of delays to the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter, but has yet to decide whether to fund an avionics upgrade, he says.


Meanwhile, the companies have provided the U.S. government with pricing data requested by two countries that operate large F-16 fleets. “A couple of countries are seeking budgets [for upgrades],” Murphy says.

RACR deliveries could begin 36 months after contract award, paced by the development of radar modes required by the customer, Murphy says, adding that node development and testing would fit within the three-year timescale of the Common Configuration Implementation Program upgrade for the F-16C/D.

Cost of the RACR retrofit is comparable to that of upgrading the F-16C/D’s Northrop APG-68 mechanically scanned radar to the SAR-capable (V)9 standard, but the AESA offers a tenfold increase in reliability, Murphy says.

Photo: Lockheed Martin


Raytheon Flies AESA Retrofit Radar In F-16 | AVIATION WEEK

 

[SpArK]

Benny ,actully you might remember the interview in which reporter asked about this expensive upgrade to PV Naik and he said yes!its true 40m$ is quiet high per plane but when you look at it with the perespective of training ,experience and infrastructure .it's actully quiet right price .Also a new variant say Rafale atleast take 5years wo khete hai na Haath baitana. No doubt Mirage is still a beloved plane for IAF and They are ready to pay this expensive upgradation so that it can hang on for 15years atleast and ultimately replaced by AMCA.

I actually dont believe the commonality theory that is going against F-16s.. It would be a newer aircraft just as any other winning fighter.

If we have a superior fighter than what our adversary has , it is indeed a plus point and a psychological advantage in my book.

 

[GORKHALI]

No dear Im Gripen IN

It seems you dint read the LATEST WIKILEAKS REVEALATION THAT US ARM TWISTING SWEDEN NEWS IN MMRCA THREAD BUDDY

 

[SpArK]

It seems you dint read the LATEST WIKILEAKS REVEALATION THAT US ARM TWISTING SWEDEN NEWS IN MMRCA THREAD BUDDY

This is the news

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