Hidden Threat: The PKK in Europe

[xenon54 out]

 

[HannibalBarca]

Well... In the End... Turkey is indirectly feeding PKK...
Turkey is the Key to End it...

Close Physically the Turkish/Iranian Border (Or all of the EAst side, like the TR/SY border)...
Increase Border Control of goods... on the Asian Side and European side...
A True Zero tolerance for Drugs/smuggling etc...
Increase control of Funds Transfer between EU and TR
Continue suffocating them...

And that's it... Until then...They will keep getting fed.

Ps: Investing even more on the Turkish Diaspora in EU, will greatly Help... against Any PKK-related ideology...

 

[xenon54 out]

Well... In the End... Turkey is indirectly feeding PKK...
Turkey is the Key to End it...

Close Physically the Turkish/Iranian Border (Or all of the EAst side, like the TR/SY border)...
Increase Border Control of goods... on the Asian Side and European side...
A True Zero tolerance for Drugs/smuggling etc...
Increase control of Funds Transfer between EU and TR
Continue suffocating them...

And that's it... Until then...They will keep getting fed.

Have you ever seen the topography of Turkish Iranian border, it has mountains as high as 4000-5000 m.
Compare that to North Iraq from where most pkk assaults happen, its not as easy as said.

 

[HannibalBarca]

Have you ever seen the topography of Turkish Iranian border?
Compare that to North Iraq from where most pkk assaults happen, its not as easy as said.

You don't need to make a concrete wall, to be "Physical".
And Drastically increasing security on that same border.

If it's the price to pay to cut the flow... and therefore their "power"...then sacrifice should be made...nothing is impossible... only "Will" is needed.

 

[xenon54 out]

You don't need to make a concrete wall, to be "Physical".
And Drastically increasing security on that same border.

If it's the price to pay to cut the flow... and therefore their "power"...then sacrifice should be made...nothing is impossible... only "Will" is needed.

This has been topic for decades, let me just tell you something, my uncle in Turkey served in the worst possible place in Turkey, he was at the Turkey, Iran, Iraq triangle in Hakkari province in a border post on top of a mountain.
You have temparatures like -35°C in windy conditions, after 15 min. you change guards because you just cant survive the cold out there for a long time.
And its not like they didnt engage enemies, he had to pick up pieces of terrorists after a clash.

Imagine the manpower you need and the supplies you have to get upthere all the while Iraqi and Iranian sides are completely unmanned.
Do you think this channel would have been left open if there was a feasible way to completely cut it?
As said its easier said than done.

These are the conditions in Hakkari, Daglica right at the border, a notorious place known for pkk raids since decades in the said region, its the living hell for any serviceman.

Notice: the pics are from summer, in winter these bases get supplied by air since they get cut from outside world for several months by land.

 

[HannibalBarca]

This has been topic for decades, let me just tell you something, my uncle in Turkey served in the worst possible place in Turkey, he was at the Turkey, Iran, Iraq triangle in Hakkari province in a border post on top of a mountain.
You have temparatures like -35°C in windy conditions, after 15 min. you change guards because you just cant survive the cold out there for a long time.
And its not like they didnt engage enemies, he had to pick up pieces of terrorists after a clash.

Imagine the manpower you need and the supplies you have to get upthere all the while Iraqi and Iranian sides are completely unmanned.
Do you think this channel would have been left open if there was a feasible way to completely cut it?
As said its easier said than done.

These are the conditions in Hakkari, Daglica right at the border, a notorious place known for pkk raids since decades in the said region, its the living hell for any serviceman.

Notice: the pics are from summer.

I do Understand the difficult environment at play.
But I also understand, that nothing is impossible, Other did succeed in closing down their "mountainous" border, that is even more drastic than the East TR side.

I do, believe, that more investment, should be made, whatever by increasing Bases/Watchpost/Fences/Tower Controls/UAV etc...

And the East side is not the only problem...since Drugs get pass the TR/EU border... and for that...there is no excuse... And let's not hide it either... all of it...couldn't move without the implication of "Few" Officials/Police/Customs etc... that turn a blind eye to it... in exchange of few $$...

So fighting corruption is also a top priority...

 

[xenon54 out]

But I also understand, that nothing is impossible, Other did succeed in closing down their "mountainous" border, that is even more drastic than the East TR side.

I cant think of an exsample though.

I do, believe, that more investment, should be made, whatever by increasing Bases/Watchpost/Fences/Tower Controls/UAV etc...

Well those have just started but it will take years to fully implement and still wont secure that place 100%

And the East side is not the only problem...since Drugs get pass the TR/EU border... and for that...there is no excuse... And let's not hide it either... all of it...could move without the implication of "Few" Officials/Police/Customs etc... that turn a blind eye to it...

So fighting corruption is also a top priority...

True and yet the TR-EU border is very busy, i mean not something you would imagine, last year i passed Turkey-Bulgaria border by car and right after passing i zeroed the km of the car to measure the Truck line, it was an insane number of over 10km and this was just one bordergate.

 

[CAN_TR]

You don't need to make a concrete wall, to be "Physical".
And Drastically increasing security on that same border.

If it's the price to pay to cut the flow... and therefore their "power"...then sacrifice should be made...nothing is impossible... only "Will" is needed.

red line = border wall

 

[-SINAN-]

But I also understand, that nothing is impossible, Other did succeed in closing down their "mountainous" border, that is even more drastic than the East TR side.

Impossible, a geography which consists of thousands of valleys, mountain tops, caves, where even soldiers have difficulty to simply walk, razor sharp rocks. It is virtually impossible to close down that border. Hell even US can't fully control it's border with Mexico which is an incomparable geography with southeastern Turkey.

Only way to end it, is to destroy rat nests in Northern Iraq. Cross border operation/Invasion of Northern Iraq.

 

[lastofthepatriots]

Turkey needs real men in army not draftees. Real Turkish men very tough people, but when you fill army with Turkish burgers from cities you obviously face casualties. Real men come from villages, not Ankhara and Istanbul. PKK is no problem for Turkish army, but rats that help them are the problem.

Respect to Turkish Army. I hope you guys kill these puppets fast.

Turkish army halal olsun.

 

[Kiryu]

Technology can help secure borders in difficult terrain and lessen the physical toll on the human body.