Hezbollah Shows Off Stolen US Weapons to Threaten Israel

[Metanoia]

"Sword of Arab" at work here

Your (IMO misplaced) zeal is admirable. Look...one proper way to get your point across is just to keep it short and simple instead of posting really long reading material. Secondly and more importantly. ..please do not be repetitive because repeating something that long not only consumes the bandwidth but it makes you seems emotional, akin to the user 500.

 

[Saif al-Arab]

"Sword of Arab" at work here

Your (IMO misplaced) zeal is admirable. Look...one proper way to get your point across is just to keep it short and simple instead of posting really long reading material. Secondly and more importantly. ..please do not be repetitive because repeating something that long not only consumes the bandwidth but it makes you seems emotional, akin to the user 500.

There is nothing misplaced about speaking the truth. EVERYTHING that I have posted is backed by sources of all kind in this thread. That is why my "opponents" are unable to argue the content but instead get personal or write useless one-liners. Or try to censor me. My posts do not contain any insults, personal attacks nor, as far as I am aware of and can see, do they break any forum rules.

I do not consider my posts to be particularly long (you should see my work in my field of work - chemical engineering) but the important thing here is not the length but the content. The topics discussed are complicated and require long detailed posts. Besides I am also writing to an audience that is mostly not even users here. Therefore I write in a manner that even non-Muslims will understand.

As for being emotional we all have emotions whenever we engage in any discussion and I indeed consider the nature of the topics that I have raised as extremely serious.

@WebMaster this is all connected if you read my posts as the subject is Hezbollah which is essentially an Iranian terrorist organization that operates inside Lebanon as per the words of its own leader. However I will listen to your advice. The rules in this regard (discussing topics connected to the MENA) should be fair for all and if censored it should go both ways. All I am saying.

 

[WebMaster]

@Saif al-Arab stick to the topic!!

 

[TheTravla]

Much ado about nothing, prior to the Syria debacle, Nasrullah along with many Israeli intelligence strategists were claiming that the group was amassing and expanding its arsenal.

These outaded weapons are a joke, they'll be smashed by Israel with absolute ease. And Hezbollah's leaders alongside their Iranian backers know this. That's why these weapons were never meant to be used against Israel, their intended purpose is killing more innocent Syrians.

Well Israel, Iran or Hezbollah didn’t get your memo during the 2006 war.

Prior to the onset of the 2006 war, Ehud Olmert, addressed the Knesset and stated his objectives:

- Hizbollah would be decimated and removed from Southern Lebanon

- Recapture of Ehud and Eldad

- Deployment of the Lebanese Army in South Lebanon

- UNSC Resolution 1559

Hezbollah since has amassed a stockpile of weapons. Its ability to not only survive but to strike back and inflict losses especially on the ground has won it many admirers across the globe and most importantly amongst the Lebanon’s political sphere and populace.

The UN Resolution 1559 to disarm and give power to solely the Lebanese army up to Israel's northern border has also fallen on deaf ears, both parties have become allied with one another and work strongly in combating Wahhabi terrorism. Despite the effort of Israel, US and the Saudi establishment to empower the Lebanese army, it has had little to no effect to diminish the role of Hezbollah. So it was hardly surprising to see earlier this year that Saudi Arabia removed its aid to the Lebanese army.

Most of these objectives seemed pretty reasonable barring the recapture of Ehud and Eldad. Yet, Israel, had achieved none of them.

The inter-web is full of reports from prominent Israelis on how they perceived that war going and how it eventually turned out. Ultimately, Olmert, who had just taken over from Sharon had over 72% of Israeli’s wanting him gone right after the war. At the moment, Israel whole focus is solely on Iran, not some insignificant backwater state that amasses state of the art weaponry only to unleash it on poor defenceless Yemenis or attacking helpless Bahrainis. You dune dwellers in Saud are respected by nobody including your allies.

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The formation, the rise, the success of Hezbollah despite the insurmountable odds is a testament to the support of Iran, the steadfast nature of the Southern Lebanese populace and the adeptness of their leader, Nasrallah.

A guerrilla force containing thousands of soldiers without a nuclear armed power to back them up on their doorstep and with no advanced weaponry but knowledge of the local terrain was able to defend its territory against a highly sophisticated, potently armed and disciplined army.

People from Kashmir would be wise to learn from them and replicate their resistance model.

 

[C130]

Nobody reads your crap...Majority prefers Hizbollah than KSA.


It is not the M-133 that Israel is wary of, its the man behind it that give them the chill..

my comment was more to do with the 'title of this discussion' I don't doubt the courage and determination of hezbollah and shia.

 

[T-Rex]

Hezbollah shows off U.S.-made tanks in parade, U.S. military unsure how they got them
Some initially thought the armored personnel carriers had been stolen from the Lebanese military but U.S. officials say the tanks shown in pictures are not the same model as those given to Lebanon.
By Stephen Feller | Nov. 18, 2016 at 2:48 AM

Hezbollah showed off U.S.-made M113 armored personnel vehicles, pictured on the right, in a recent military parade, but U.S. officials are unsure exactly how the militant group obtained the tanks. Photo by Mark Holloway/Flickr.com
QUSAYR, Syria, Nov. 18 (UPI) -- Hezbollah showed off U.S.-made tanks in a parade in Syria, which some thought were stolen from Lebanon, but U.S. military officials say that is impossible because they gave the Lebanese military a different model.

Images of the parade, held in Qusayr, Syria, are raising concern about terror groups in the Middle East using U.S. military armored personnel carriers distributed as part of aid to various nations in the region.

While some have suggested the tanks were taken from the Lebanese Armed Forces, which the United States has been supporting in its battle against militant groups in Lebanon. Last summer, the U.S. gave the military about $50 million worth of equipment, including vehicles, grenade launchers and tons of ammunition.

A U.S. State Department official told The Washington Post the vehicles in the pictures are "unlikely" to have come from the Lebanese military, and Pentagon spokesman Chris Sherwood backed the official up, saying "the structural analysis of the vehicles in the picture" does not match those provided to Lebanon.

The M113 armored personnel carrier, or APC, has been used in every major U.S. military conflict since the Vietnam War. The vehicle has also been given or sold to other countries around the world as part of aid packages, in addition to being used by many police departments in the United States.

U.S. officials say the model M113 Hezbollah has may have come from the Southern Lebanese Army, which Israel supplied with military equipment -- including 20 M113s -- from 1984 until 1996. Hezbollah may also have taken them from the al-Qaeda-linked Jabhat al-Nusra, but officials are also unsure how they got their M113s.

 

[mike2000 is back]

Hezbollah shows off U.S.-made tanks in parade, U.S. military unsure how they got them
Some initially thought the armored personnel carriers had been stolen from the Lebanese military but U.S. officials say the tanks shown in pictures are not the same model as those given to Lebanon.
By Stephen Feller | Nov. 18, 2016 at 2:48 AM

Hezbollah showed off U.S.-made M113 armored personnel vehicles, pictured on the right, in a recent military parade, but U.S. officials are unsure exactly how the militant group obtained the tanks. Photo by Mark Holloway/Flickr.com
QUSAYR, Syria, Nov. 18 (UPI) -- Hezbollah showed off U.S.-made tanks in a parade in Syria, which some thought were stolen from Lebanon, but U.S. military officials say that is impossible because they gave the Lebanese military a different model.

Images of the parade, held in Qusayr, Syria, are raising concern about terror groups in the Middle East using U.S. military armored personnel carriers distributed as part of aid to various nations in the region.

While some have suggested the tanks were taken from the Lebanese Armed Forces, which the United States has been supporting in its battle against militant groups in Lebanon. Last summer, the U.S. gave the military about $50 million worth of equipment, including vehicles, grenade launchers and tons of ammunition.

A U.S. State Department official told The Washington Post the vehicles in the pictures are "unlikely" to have come from the Lebanese military, and Pentagon spokesman Chris Sherwood backed the official up, saying "the structural analysis of the vehicles in the picture" does not match those provided to Lebanon.

The M113 armored personnel carrier, or APC, has been used in every major U.S. military conflict since the Vietnam War. The vehicle has also been given or sold to other countries around the world as part of aid packages, in addition to being used by many police departments in the United States.

U.S. officials say the model M113 Hezbollah has may have come from the Southern Lebanese Army, which Israel supplied with military equipment -- including 20 M113s -- from 1984 until 1996. Hezbollah may also have taken them from the al-Qaeda-linked Jabhat al-Nusra, but officials are also unsure how they got their M113s.

Is this a joke? So they think that a few stolen U.S M113 personnel carriers will scare Israel? Seriously?? This will just be another good target practice for Israel and will help boast Israel's battle tested weapons exports(they are already the world's 7th largest military exporter) even more.
This will only help justify Israeli strikes against this terror group and justify these strikes to the international community. The more Hezbollah shows it's western stolen weapons as a sow of force, the better for Israel as it will justify Israel tackling this large dangerous terror group in case of conflict.
If i was them i will hide it instead.

 

[Serpentine]

Is this a joke? So they think that a few stolen U.S M113 personnel carriers will scare Israel? Seriously?? This will just be another good target practice for Israel and will help boast Israel's battle tested weapons exports(they are already the world's 7th largest military exporter) even more.
This will only help justify Israeli strikes against this terror group and justify these strikes to the international community. The more Hezbollah shows it's western stolen weapons as a sow of force, the better for Israel as it will justify Israel tackling this large dangerous terror group in case of conflict.
If i was them i will hide it instead.

The only terror group I could find in your post is IDF itself, practically the best armed terrorist group in the world.

So Hezbollah are terrorists because they kicked IDF out of their country, but Israel, the only who stole lands and killed its people are not terrorists, well that's now how it works.

 

[Milica]

It seems that the Syrian war has tremendously benefited Hezbollah. The assad regime and its supporters have armed Hezbollah like never before. How they are going to be used against Israel that is the question now. I think for Isreal the better way to tackle them will be to arm FSA, their arch rival in Syria, with sophisticated weapons.

No, jew boot licker jamaati. What about Israel and USA should arm both Hezbollah and FSA with lower tier weapons, so that they fight each other for eternity and can never look on Israel..

 

[mike2000 is back]

The only terror group I could find in your post is IDF itself, practically the best armed terrorist group in the world.

So Hezbollah are terrorists because they kicked IDF out of their country, but Israel, the only who stole lands and killed its people are not terrorists, well that's now how it works.

Hezbollah, ISIS, AL Qaeda, PKK, TTP, Hamas, Al Nusra and many other sunni Islamic extremists groups are all terrorists.

• Hezbollah was responsible for the bombing of a tourist bus in Bulgaria, killing five Israelis and one Belgian, and wounding dozens more.
• It was responsible for a massive bombing in 1983 of the US Embassy and US and French barracks in Beirut, Suicide bombing(one of the first terrorist group in the world to use suicide bombers way before ISIS and Al Qaeda. lol) of the American Marine barracks in 1983. Suicide bombing of the French army barracks in 1983. killing 241 U.S. and 58 French servicemen and 6 civilians.
• Capture of the Beirut hostages in 1985. TWA hijacking and murder of a US Marine on 1985, capture,the HIDEOUS torture and murder of the CIA Station Chief William Buckley in 1984/5( this was videotaped and went beyond the limits of the Gestapo. lol ) . Ditto William Higgins in 1989.( castrated and skinned alive).
• A Hezbollah the terrorist group had detonated a car bomb with more than 400 kg of explosives outside the building of the Asociación Mutual Israelita Argentina. The vast amount of explosives caused the building to collapse, killing 85 people and wounding more than 300.
• Hezbollah terrorist leader Hassan Nasrala(or whatever his name is spelt. lol ) has complained that the task of hunting down Jews worldwide is too burdensome, observing that “if all the Jews were gathered in Israel, it would save us the trouble of going after them world-wide,” while further proclaiming “an open war until the elimination of Israel and until the death of the last Jew on earth”. Radical islamic rhetorics not much different from hardcore jihadists and terrorists leaders like Ben laden.
• Nasrallah said “the elimination of Israel is not only a Palestinian interest. It is the interest of the entire Muslim world and the entire Arab world.” He also added that there is “no region of Israel outside the reach of Hezbollah’s missiles.” Terrorist also like boasting even thouh they know fully well that they stand no chance against a professional army if they fought on an open/even field and not hiding behind civilians and using them as human shields(like Hezbollah does when facing Israel. lol ).
• Hezbollah are also a springboard and a training stop for every other Islamic terrorist group in the area including the SUNNI terrorist group Hamas,Popular Resistance Comitties, Islamic Jihad etc etc. Do not run away with the idea ISIS are bad therefore Hezbollah are good.Only naive misinformed people believe that. I am not one of them .lol

http://mfa.gov.il/MFA/AboutIsrae...

19 Years Since AMIA Argentina Bombing and Hezbollah Terror Threat Growing

Nasrallah, in vicious public address, calls for the destruction of Israel

AMIA bombing - Wikipedia

2012 Burgas bus bombing - Wikipedia

Cyprus arrest of Hezbollah man 'uncovered large-scale Iranian terror plot across Europe'

Hezbollah members arrested in Thailand admit to planning attack on Israeli tourists - Diplomacy and Defense


A terrorist group by all means, same with some supported by the Muslim brotherhood, KSA, . etc Of course Hezbollah the terror group patron is still Iran so your support for them is understandable.

 

[Serpentine]

Hezbollah, ISIS, AL Qaeda, PKK, TTP, Hamas, Al Nusra and many other sunni Islamic extremists groups are all terrorists.

• Hezbollah was responsible for the bombing of a tourist bus in Bulgaria, killing five Israelis and one Belgian, and wounding dozens more.
• It was responsible for a massive bombing in 1983 of the US Embassy and US and French barracks in Beirut, Suicide bombing(one of the first terrorist group in the world to use suicide bombers way before ISIS and Al Qaeda. lol) of the American Marine barracks in 1983. Suicide bombing of the French army barracks in 1983. killing 241 U.S. and 58 French servicemen and 6 civilians.
• Capture of the Beirut hostages in 1985. TWA hijacking and murder of a US Marine on 1985, capture,the HIDEOUS torture and murder of the CIA Station Chief William Buckley in 1984/5( this was videotaped and went beyond the limits of the Gestapo. lol ) . Ditto William Higgins in 1989.( castrated and skinned alive).
• A Hezbollah the terrorist group had detonated a car bomb with more than 400 kg of explosives outside the building of the Asociación Mutual Israelita Argentina. The vast amount of explosives caused the building to collapse, killing 85 people and wounding more than 300.
• Hezbollah terrorist leader Hassan Nasrala(or whatever his name is spelt. lol ) has complained that the task of hunting down Jews worldwide is too burdensome, observing that “if all the Jews were gathered in Israel, it would save us the trouble of going after them world-wide,” while further proclaiming “an open war until the elimination of Israel and until the death of the last Jew on earth”. Radical islamic rhetorics not much different from hardcore jihadists and terrorists leaders like Ben laden.
• Nasrallah said “the elimination of Israel is not only a Palestinian interest. It is the interest of the entire Muslim world and the entire Arab world.” He also added that there is “no region of Israel outside the reach of Hezbollah’s missiles.” Terrorist also like boasting even thouh they know fully well that they stand no chance against a professional army if they fought on an open/even field and not hiding behind civilians and using them as human shields(like Hezbollah does when facing Israel. lol ).
• Hezbollah are also a springboard and a training stop for every other Islamic terrorist group in the area including the SUNNI terrorist group Hamas,Popular Resistance Comitties, Islamic Jihad etc etc. Do not run away with the idea ISIS are bad therefore Hezbollah are good.Only naive misinformed people believe that. I am not one of them .lol

http://mfa.gov.il/MFA/AboutIsrae...

19 Years Since AMIA Argentina Bombing and Hezbollah Terror Threat Growing

Nasrallah, in vicious public address, calls for the destruction of Israel

AMIA bombing - Wikipedia

2012 Burgas bus bombing - Wikipedia

Cyprus arrest of Hezbollah man 'uncovered large-scale Iranian terror plot across Europe'

Hezbollah members arrested in Thailand admit to planning attack on Israeli tourists - Diplomacy and Defense


A terrorist group by all means, same with some supported by the Muslim brotherhood, KSA, . etc Of course Hezbollah the terror group patron is still Iran so your support for them is understandable.

First, Hezbollah is not a Sunni group and it is not even remotely close to a single group you named. Israel is closer ideologically to ISIS/Nusra than Hezbollah is.

Secondly, Most of the attacks you mentioned are not proved to be Hezbollah, and they have denied responsibility for most of them. But of course, they did kill American, French and Israeli soldiers in Lebanon, that's not an act of terrorism, you can look it up in a dictionary.

Meanwhile, when it comes to killing civilians for political/religious reasons, the countries you mentioned (US, UK, France, Israel) could be branded as biggest terrorists in the world, since barely anyone can match them in number of civilians they killed.

You can repeat all those nonsense and copy paste from Wikipedia, but that doesn't change the truth. US, UK, France or Israel trying to tell who is terrorist is like a mass murderer/mass rapist trying to say who is a murderer or a rapist. Doesn't work like this.

 

[925boy]

@Saif al-Arab Men, you talk so much biased, rubbish(sorry). KSA is "1000" more anti Israel than Iran? THEN PLEASE TELL US WHAT SAUDIS AND ARABS HAVE DONE AGAINST ISRAEL INTERESTS/IN INTEREST OF PALESTINE. KSA has even colluded with this same Israel you are saying you guys hate to bomb Iran's nuclear facilities. Saudis made secret trips to this "hated" Israel to plan join operations/flyover KSA by Israelis to hit Iran's nuclear facilities, Because KSA not Israel could succesfully do the strike on their own. Give me a break about Saudis/arabs hating Israel more or blah blah blah. You guys talk a good muslim talk but on the inside you seem to love cash and behave xenophobic.YOu said Iranians or hezbollah have killed fellow muslims, BUT, the likes of Alqaeda and ISIS which takes extreme form of wahhabism as their ideology has been killing muslims(shiites) in Iraq and Syria and Afghanistan just because they are shiite MUSLIMS, so wtf are you talking about? hypocrite!

 

[Adir-M]

Actually it will more easy to fight against tanks and apc then gorilla war in a civil area.
This boxes (m113 and tanks form the 60s) will be a the grave of hizzy soldiers. in Syria the hizzy enjoy from air cover because rebel have no air force. fighting against Israel with spike nols F15/F16 and modern artillery will make the yellow boxes dead parade of the hizzy more common.
I forget to say that dahieh will be removed from this earth

 

[AmirPatriot]

@Saif al-Arab Men, you talk so much biased, rubbish(sorry). KSA is "1000" more anti Israel than Iran? THEN PLEASE TELL US WHAT SAUDIS AND ARABS HAVE DONE AGAINST ISRAEL INTERESTS/IN INTEREST OF PALESTINE. KSA has even colluded with this same Israel you are saying you guys hate to bomb Iran's nuclear facilities. Saudis made secret trips to this "hated" Israel to plan join operations/flyover KSA by Israelis to hit Iran's nuclear facilities, Because KSA not Israel could succesfully do the strike on their own. Give me a break about Saudis/arabs hating Israel more or blah blah blah. You guys talk a good muslim talk but on the inside you seem to love cash and behave xenophobic.YOu said Iranians or hezbollah have killed fellow muslims, BUT, the likes of Alqaeda and ISIS which takes extreme form of wahhabism as their ideology has been killing muslims(shiites) in Iraq and Syria and Afghanistan just because they are shiite MUSLIMS, so wtf are you talking about? hypocrite!

Lol don't bother. This guy just just went FULL Al-Baghdadi. His post has been deleted but it had a link to what he calls an "amazing channel" called AntiMajosProduction" https://www.youtube.com/user/AntiMajosProduction

It has "amazing" videos called "Rafidism (Shiism): Sahaba, the worst of mankind!" and "Founders of Shia cult were hardcore mujassima". Theres also the great "Majoosi influenced Shiism" which I'm sure he really loves.

 

[Serpentine]

I forget to say that dahieh will be removed from this earth

It seems victims of the Holocaust (if we assume the whole Holocaust isn't a hoax) are in to become a worse Hitler in making, which is natural. It's something like an Stockholm syndrome. Hopefully, next time, Israel will pay such a heavy price for war that it won't start another war for decades to come.