Hezbollah confirms sending drone into Israeli airspace

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Oh my dear, for how long more you will continue to run through threads with your lies?

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Latakiya is Alawite province. What actually happened there is that Alawites attacked Sunnis in town.

 

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Pretty weak response. It seems it was written more out of a feeling of obligation to provide an answer than for having any real arguments to add to the debate.

I showed u Arab demonstration with Palestinian flags in midst of Tel Aviv. No one touches them and no one gives a damn.

Oh boy, I referenced books, showed you articles written by Israeli sources, one of which about IDF soldiers admitting to infiltrating protests in order to give the IDF an excuse to arrest protesters, and you think you can refute all this with one of a thousand Youtube videos on Palestinian protesters. You know, many such videos of them have outcomes very different from that of the one you singled out. The one linked below, for example, shows many unarmed protesters being beaten by soldiers just for the sake of it. My favourite is of an old woman getting it on the face just for addressing a soldier. You're a silly boy if you think you can refute recorded history with one Youtube video.

And even after they started throwing stones, molotov cocktails, stabbings, shootings, there were only 1000 killed in 6 years. Assad killed 2000 in first 5 months.

And Israel killed 1,000 in Gaza in four weeks.

139 villages and towns in that tiny area? Pfff u must be kidding. The only large settlement there was Quneitra. Righ on the border. And despite Israel handed it to Syria in 1974 it was not resettled.

I'm not kidding, and I showed you a reference: a peer reviewed book on Israeli history. I'm going to repeat what I told you before, as it seems you have to be taught on how to engage in a real debate: it isn't good enough for you to just blurt out you your opinions, or what you wished was the truth. You have to produce real arguments and evidence. I referenced articles on mainstream newspapers and book excerpts, and you're not going to refute me by simply saying "pffff" or writing in Caps Lock.

Plz show me pics of these 139 "towns"

The excerpt read, not "towns", but "villages". Learn to read, silly. And there are even more references on this number. This one. And this, and this, this, this and this. I could pass the whole day adducing more references supporting the number presented above. You also expelled from Palestine 700,000 of its native residents in 1948, and even till these days the hasbarists say Palestine was barely populated before the Zionists came in. Clearly there is a history of denialism on Israel's part regarding its record of ethnic cleansing. Whether you deny that to make yourselves feel better about your history, or to deceive the world at large about Israel's national character, I don't really know.

I already answered that joke. Israel planned complete withdrawal in 1983. We signed agreement with Lebanese government on than in May 1983. But it was Hezbollah and friends who foiled that deal.

The little agreement signed with Phalangist war criminal Amin Gemayel, under Reagan's blessing, was partial to Israel's occupation of Lebanon and did not establish a full and unconditional Israeli withdrawal from occupied Lebanon. It instead legitimized Israel's occupation of the south, and it was this that ignited the Shia ire against Israel and the uprising which culminated in Israeli defeat in 1985 and withdrawal to a narrow strip until 2000. Hezbollah didn't force you to a thing -- it was instead your pride, Israel's insistence on always finding something to save its face when cornered or defeated, that prompted your country to occupy parts of southern Lebanon until 2000. And this, Israeli leaders regreted very much. By so doing, you legitimized Hezbollah's growth and the continuation of "the resistence" even after the end of the civil war -- you "let the genie out of the bottle", as Ehud Barak regretfully said of Israel's continued presence in Lebanon.

I just say that Assad with all his 300,000 army, 5000 tanks planes artillery + Iranian Guards and Hezbollah is unable to defeat poorly armed rebels.

The rebels are suffering heavy casualties and they have already pulled out of Damascus's center and of the main neighbourhoods of Aleppo. I don't see them as very successful themselves. But since you like to compare them to Hezbollah, allow me to highlight, once again, that Hezbollah has been very successful at its struggle against you.

If rebels had 10% of Hezbollahs arms and equipment Assad would be dead by now.

Do you even know what weapons the rebels have been using? Probably only rebels themselves know their limits. It is known that Saudi Arabia has been transferring heavy US-made stuff to them. What else have they been getting? Do you know?

The only achievement of Hezbollah is that it forced Israel to stay in Lebanon for 17 unnecessary years.

Is that why Israeli generals have called Hezbollah's "by far the greatest guerrilla group in the world" ?

No, Israels purpose was to stop Hezbollah attacks. And it perfectly worked.

You sure it did? Anyway, many justifications were given by Israel and its supporters about its attack on Lebanon. The first one was that Israel needed to retrieve the captured soldiers. It failed at that, and now we know that that excuse was a fake one. Israeli officials themselves have debunked it by admitting this year that they knew they couldn't get the soldiers, or what was left of them, back. Later on, the war was justified on the grounds that Israel was opening a new front in the "war on terror". John Bolton, at the time the US envoy to the UN, determined that no ceasefire between Lebanon and Israel should be established before Israel succeeded in rooting out Hezbollah. (Later on, when it became clear that Israel was failing, he implored the Lebanese to get back to the negotiation table.) In fact, many western media outlets identified Israel's motivation as being the elimination of Hezbollah. The generally pro-Israel Boston Globe published this article that read that, "Israel is attacking Lebanon again -- this time to root out Hezbollah". I can bring in more examples. In any case, has Israel succeeded? No. In fact, Hezbollah is more powerful now than six years ago. Israel thus lost.

Nasrallah is hiding in bunker and Hezbollah afraids to fire a bullet towards Israel.

So? He may fear a drone or some Mossad agent. Israel is known for its sneaky demeanor. And that says absolutely nothing about Israel's performance in the 2006 war.

They LOST POST WAR ELECTIONS (2009). And later they took power by coup and intimidation.

You forget that, prior to the 2006 war, there was a high degree of resentment among non-Shia Lebanese against Hezbollah, primarily because of the Hariri murder and of Hezbollah's connivence with the Syrian occupation of Lebanon. During the war and in the first few months following it, however, Hezbollah's popularity climbed all over Lebanon. This support, which could be expected only if Hezbollah was seen as victorious, was widely reported at the time. Support for Hezbollah's decision to capture the IDF soldiers, and its insistence on keeping its weapons, skyrocketed, and not only among Shias, but also in all of Lebanon's other main communities (Sunnis, Christians and Druzes). The same is true about the broader Middle East. Even the Iraqi chapter of al-Qaeda, which has been merciless on Shias, saw itself forced, in face of Hezbollah's victory, to call for pan-Islamic unity against Israel following the Lebanon war. If Hezbollah had been seen as the loser, no doubt its adversaries and rivals, instead of supporting it or calling for unity, would instead have used the occasion to pour scorn on the group (in fact, at the beginning of the war, many "moderate" MidEast countries, like Jordan and Saudi Arabia, quietly supported Israel and openly condemned Hezbollah; they didn't dare do so again at the end of the conflict). However, it's very natural that, by 2009, the effects of Hezbollah's victory would have worn off, and old resentments against the group would rise up again. Some such resentments are very understandable -- for instance, the fact that Hezbollah is the only non-state group in Lebanon allowed to store weapons. As I said before, resentment against Hezbollah is nothing new, and Israel's brief war couldn't by itself change it -- what it could do, was to temporarily unite Lebanon's community behind "the resistence" and signal a ceasefire between Hezbollah and its political rivals in Lebanon.

 

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Oh boy, I referenced books, showed you articles written by Israeli sources, one of which about IDF soldiers admitting to infiltrating protests in order to give the IDF an excuse to arrest protesters, and you think you can refute all this with one of a thousand Youtube videos on Palestinian protesters.

1) This is a video of large propalestinian demonstration in heart of Tel Aviv. No one touches them. No one gives a damn. Can u imagine large rebel demonstration in Damascus? How much it wil take before they will be all arrested or killed?
2) You can always find someone who can claim any nonsense. Everyone could see that they were throwing stines and molotov cocktails from the first day of Intifada. I saw that daily in news myself, I know people who dealt with that. So spare me of that nonsense.
3) finally u cant deal with numbers. 1000 killed in 6 years and 2000 slaughtered by Assad in 5 months.

And Israel killed 1,000 in Gaza in four weeks.

There were no demonstrations. It was a WAR. Some 700 of killed were Hamas terrorists. They fired rocket barrages at civilian neighborhoods.

I'm not kidding, and I showed you a reference: a peer reviewed book on Israeli history. I'm going to repeat what I told you before, as it seems you have to be taught on how to engage in a real debate: it isn't good enough for you to just blurt out you your opinions, or what you wished was the truth. You have to produce real arguments and evidence. I referenced articles on mainstream newspapers and book excerpts, and you're not going to refute me by simply saying "pffff" or writing in Caps Lock.

There are many different estimates about number of refugees. 136 thousands is highest estimate made by Arabs propagandists. And we all know how truthworthy they are

Here the fact: the only large settlement there was Quneitra with 20,000 people which was located right on Golan's border. Until 1920-es Quneitra was a Circassian village (who migrated South Russia). Then it was settled by Arabs and population grew to 20,000. In 1967 war they fled together with Syrian army. In 1974 Israel returned Quneitra to Syrians, but they refused to resettle civilians back.

and even till these days the hasbarists say Palestine was barely populated before the Zionists came in.

Of course it is truth. If during Jesus' times Palestine had well over 2 million population, in 1880 when Zionism started it was only 400 thousands. The largest town of Palestine - Jerusalem had population of only 32,000 and it had Jewish majority.

The little agreement signed with Phalangist war criminal Amin Gemayel, under Reagan's blessing, was partial to Israel's occupation of Lebanon and did not establish a full and unconditional Israeli withdrawal from occupied Lebanon.

Stupid lie. Agreement crealry talked about full Israel withdrawal from Lebanon:

1. The Parties agree and undertake to respect the sovereignty, political independence and territorial integrity of each other. They consider the existing international boundary between Israel and Lebanon inviolable.

3. Taking into account the provisions of paragraphs I and 2, Israel undertakes to withdraw all its armed forces from Lebanon in accordance with the Annex of the present Agreement.

Syrian and Iranian puppets like Hezbollah foiled this agreement. As result Israel STAYED in Lebanon for 17 additional years. That was only achievement of Hezbollah.

The rebels are suffering heavy casualties and they have already pulled out of Damascus's center and of the main neighbourhoods of Aleppo. I don't see them as very successful themselves. But since you like to compare them to Hezbollah, allow me to highlight, once again, that Hezbollah has been very successful at its struggle against you.

Damasuc was just raid with few hundreds. Regime still is unable to clean Homs (third largest city) and Aleppo (first largest city in Syria). In Aleppo rebels are still in center. The situation change very little since the beginning of assault 3 month's ago.

On the other hand regime is rapidly losing positions in northern regions, especially in Idlib.

Do you even know what weapons the rebels have been using? Probably only rebels themselves know their limits. It is known that Saudi Arabia has been transferring heavy US-made stuff to them. What else have they been getting? Do you know?

Where these magic weapons? Show me. The most heavy weapons are ZSU-23-2 stormed from Syrian army.

Is that why Israeli generals have called Hezbollah's "by far the greatest guerrilla group in the world" ?

No doubt Hezbollah is best armed and trained guerilla group in the world.

You sure it did?

Of course. Not a single bullet was fired by Hezbollah towards Israel since 2006.

Anyway, many justifications were given by Israel and its supporters about its attack on Lebanon.

Israel did not attack Lebanon. Israel retaliated after 6 years of attacks from Hezbollah. And then Hezbollah stopped.

So? He may fear a drone or some Mossad agent. Israel is known for its sneaky demeanor. And that says absolutely nothing about Israel's performance in the 2006 war.

He lived openly before 2006. Now he hides like a rat. Great victory. WIth u more victories like that.

You forget that, prior to the 2006 war, there was a high degree of resentment among non-Shia Lebanese against Hezbollah, primarily because of the Hariri murder and of Hezbollah's connivence with the Syrian occupation of Lebanon.

Yes. 2005 elections happened right after Hariri's murder, anger and Hezbollah was at peak. Lebanon got freedom from Syria and euphoria was also high. Thats why Hariri junior won.

But in 2009 Hariri's murder was a history, there was no euphoria, since Hariri juiors government was very corrupted. Yet they got virtually same result as in 2005! Obviously was did not increase Hezbollah popularity but vice versa.

 

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just a simple ...are you supporting a terrorist organization can Grow to destroy your Enemy......

If you boost terrorist one day they can turn around and hit you harder..Just like the same lesson by the Al qaida.....

one more to Iran..If you have guts Come and fight with Israel ..they are ready to fight...But don't hit their Shoulders .....


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