Hezbollah and Assad Transfer Daesh Terrorists to Iraqi Borders

[TheCamelGuy]

Lebanese officials confirmed that the Lebanese Army, in coordination with Hezbollah and the Syrian Army, arranged on Monday for 670 Islamic State fighters and their relatives to be taken nearly 300 miles in buses and ambulances from near the Lebanese-Syrian border to Abu Kamal, close to the border with Iraq.

They're pushing IS towards Iraqi forces with this deal, it's quite dirty politics from the Syrian army after the amount of military support they received from the PMU. Iraq did not do this as they closed all exit points when Mosul operation started. Should respond by pulling out all of the PMU back into Iraq.

Not the first time we see such betrayal from Syrian government, before 2011 they sent terrorists into Iraq.

 

[Muhammed45]

Should respond by pulling out all of the PMU back into Iraq.

And that's what Americans wanted.
Syrian gov, Hezbollah or Lebanese government never intended to transfer terrorists into Iraq, that's a lie.
They were in Syria and still they are in Syria. That's right close to your borders but not inside Iraq.
You must stay united and help each other, that number cannot cause a major influence on Iraq's war against IS terrorists.
But why did Americans bomb IS and prevented that? That's an other story. We all know that IS is an American creation never mind. Why did USA punish it's children? I will tell you
The Americans, who were the main proponents of the fight against ISIS, first raised the issue of retreat, although in ways that differed in logic and influence. The retreat sought by the Americans was due to take place from Mosul and al-Raqa, but the west of Mosul was supposed to Syria stay opened for them, and from the south, their path to Anbar was open. Also, east of al-Raqa to Deir al-Zur and south of al-Raqa to the desert of Syria stay opened for IS militants. However, Hashd al-Sha'bi and the Syrian army and Hezbollah with the support of Iran and Russia prevented the plan. This retreat meant that ISIL was allowed to continue its conflicts, and the United States gave them the opportunity to manage. But the recent retreat to gather ISIS and the Nusra Front in a blocked area is an action to finalize their fate and is not the way to keep them alive. Of course, this was an action that, if the Americans had the opportunity, they followed Syria in the course of the ISIS war in Syria, but they did not succeed.
The question now is why the Americans are so angry and why the American groups have opened up their anger and criticism towards Hezbollah? The careful observation in this regard suggests that their direct and indirect focus and their implicit and implicit statements go back to the al-Bukamal area. The Americans were surprised by the confidentiality of the talks and the area where terrorists were to be sent. They initially thought that the IS elements were being sent to Deir al-Zur. The Americans have surrendered to the fact that Deir al-Zur, the main axis of the Syrian Army's future war with ISIL terrorists, is unlikely to integrate ISIL gunmen into the area. But before that, the Americans hope that their subordinate groups can seize the city of Al-Bukamal before the arrival of the Iraqi army and Hashd al-Sha'abi in Al-Qaem. This could fulfill their strategic aspirations to capture the borders of Iraq and Syria. On the other hand, it is difficult and complicated to provide assistance between Al-Bukamal and Deir al-Zur, and ISIS can not strengthen it. As a result, this retreat compromised their calculations and caused the military effort to liberate Al-Bukamal from ISIS, requiring the Syrian army's strength and resistance, and the desire for American dominance over the borders of Iraq and Syria also collapsed.

USA's plan my friend!

 

[TheCamelGuy]

And that's what Americans wanted.
Syrian gov, Hezbollah or Lebanese government never intended to transfer terrorists into Iraq, that's a lie.
They were in Syria and still they are in Syria. That's right close to your borders but not inside Iraq.
You must stay united and help each other, that number cannot cause a major influence on Iraq's war against IS terrorists.
But why did Americans bomb IS and prevented that? That's an other story. We all know that IS is an American creation never mind. Why did USA punish it's children? I will tell you
The Americans, who were the main proponents of the fight against ISIS, first raised the issue of retreat, although in ways that differed in logic and influence. The retreat sought by the Americans was due to take place from Mosul and al-Raqa, but the west of Mosul was supposed to Syria stay opened for them, and from the south, their path to Anbar was open. Also, east of al-Raqa to Deir al-Zur and south of al-Raqa to the desert of Syria stay opened for IS militants. However, Hashd al-Sha'bi and the Syrian army and Hezbollah with the support of Iran and Russia prevented the plan. This retreat meant that ISIL was allowed to continue its conflicts, and the United States gave them the opportunity to manage. But the recent retreat to gather ISIS and the Nusra Front in a blocked area is an action to finalize their fate and is not the way to keep them alive. Of course, this was an action that, if the Americans had the opportunity, they followed Syria in the course of the ISIS war in Syria, but they did not succeed.
The question now is why the Americans are so angry and why the American groups have opened up their anger and criticism towards Hezbollah? The careful observation in this regard suggests that their direct and indirect focus and their implicit and implicit statements go back to the al-Bukamal area. The Americans were surprised by the confidentiality of the talks and the area where terrorists were to be sent. They initially thought that the IS elements were being sent to Deir al-Zur. The Americans have surrendered to the fact that Deir al-Zur, the main axis of the Syrian Army's future war with ISIL terrorists, is unlikely to integrate ISIL gunmen into the area. But before that, the Americans hope that their subordinate groups can seize the city of Al-Bukamal before the arrival of the Iraqi army and Hashd al-Sha'abi in Al-Qaem. This could fulfill their strategic aspirations to capture the borders of Iraq and Syria. On the other hand, it is difficult and complicated to provide assistance between Al-Bukamal and Deir al-Zur, and ISIS can not strengthen it. As a result, this retreat compromised their calculations and caused the military effort to liberate Al-Bukamal from ISIS, requiring the Syrian army's strength and resistance, and the desire for American dominance over the borders of Iraq and Syria also collapsed.

USA's plan my friend!

Relocating these terrorists from one place to another for someone else to deal with is not a solution, they are just moving their problem for Iraq to deal with. If they move them to Al-Bukamal it means they move them to attack Iraqi forces in the upcoming Al-Qaim offensive. Hezbollah and Syria made this deal without Iraqi gov knowledge, it's a selfish deal as it solves their problem but creates one for their neighbor.

IS should be killed on the battlefield, not moved towards others. Of course Hezbollah and SAA did not do this to damage their neighbor, that's simply an outcome of this deal which they are aware of but of course everyone puts his own interests first.

 

[raptor22]

Relocating these terrorists from one place to another for someone else to deal with is not a solution, they are just moving their problem for Iraq to deal with. If they move them to Al-Bukamal it means they move them to attack Iraqi forces in the upcoming Al-Qaim offensive. Hezbollah and Syria made this deal without Iraqi gov knowledge, it's a selfish deal as it solves their problem but creates one for their neighbor.

IS should be killed on the battlefield, not moved towards others. Of course Hezbollah and SAA did not do this to damage their neighbor, that's simply an outcome of this deal which they are aware of but of course everyone puts his own interests first.

There is only one front which in one side is Iraq, Iran , Hezboallah and PMU and on the other side is isis and all are fighting isis ... the same Hezboallah is fighting in eastern part of Syria , would it acceptable for Hezbollah to say Iraqi borders ain't my concern?

 

[TheCamelGuy]

There is only one front which in one side is Iraq, Iran , Hezboallah and PMU and on the other side is isis and all are fighting isis ... the same Hezboallah is fighting in eastern part of Syria , would it acceptable for Hezbollah to say Iraqi borders ain't my concern?

You said it yourself, that's exactly what they just said. They're moving IS to Al-Bukamal which lies at the border with Iraq, they are relocating the problem for someone else to deal with it. I don't understand this bullshit of them filling up buses with terrorist to evacuate them, ISF is not making such deals to send terrorists to Syria either. Those buses should be blown to shit and trash that entire deal they made, if they want to liberate those lands they should clear it militarily not give IS safe passage elsewhere.

These aren't 'rebel's neither Nusra in Idlib, IS is worse, i'm surprised they are able to negotiate with them. Hezbollah negotiating with IS is something new for me. Then the Lebanese army is also avoiding fighting them instead grants them safe passage to other countries, this is very weak.

Would you accept if a neighbor of yours dumps its terrorists near your border making them attack you?

 

[Muhammed45]

You said it yourself, that's exactly what they just said. They're moving IS to Al-Bukamal which lies at the border with Iraq, they are relocating the problem for someone else to deal with it. I don't understand this bullshit of them filling up buses with terrorist to evacuate them, ISF is not making such deals to send terrorists to Syria either. Those buses should be blown to shit and trash that entire deal they made, if they want to liberate those lands they should clear it militarily not give IS safe passage elsewhere.

These aren't 'rebel's neither Nusra in Idlib, IS is worse, i'm surprised they are able to negotiate with them. Hezbollah negotiating with IS is something new for me. Then the Lebanese army is also avoiding fighting them instead grants them safe passage to other countries, this is very weak.

Would you accept if a neighbor of yours dumps its terrorists near your border making them attack you?

The Iraq-Syria boundary should be under your control not American forces.
Al Ebadi is approving Americans in this issue, as an overall calculation, Hezbollah sent them to Syria's eastern boundaries and this will make Americans the second party that will enter Al-Qaim, we will be first.
The Iraq-Syria boundary should be under your control not American forces.

 

[500]

I am with Hezbollah actually this time. There are over 300 women and children in these buses, US is submitting them to slow death.

 

[TheCamelGuy]

I am with Hezbollah actually this time. There are over 300 women and children in these buses, US is submitting them to slow death.

And how many male IS fighters.

 

[Muhammed45]

And how many male IS fighters

See bro? Israeli cheer leaders!!!
If we lose that boundary to USA, ISIS will tell Americans : mission accomplished sir!.
Hezbollah did the best, Al-Nujaba of Iraq approved Hezbollah too. PMU's silence also was a sign of agreement with Hezbollah.

I am with Hezbollah actually this time. There are over 300 women and children in these buses, US is submitting them to slow death.

Man! This is the reason why French and other EU people called you rats!
You never had a history, neither an independent country. You have lived like rats, always resisted against truth, forged history, forged holy books of God's religions, seek for shelter from stronger powers. One day Achaemenians and nowadays Americans.
The difference is, in this case you have confronted with sons of Amir Al Mominin Heydar! Digged your own graves rats.
Do Agree with our beloved brothers as you can, they are your Malaikat of mout

 

[mike2000 is back]

Of course Hezbollah and SAA did not do this to damage their neighbor, that's simply an outcome of this deal which they are aware of but of course everyone puts his own interests first

That's something obvious, especially the bold part. I don't see anything wrong in that(geo-politically speaking of course).

The west hasn't been training or equipping Iraqi PMU.

And the western armed and trained Iraqi army completely collapsed to the point that ISIS were nearing Baghdad. It was only when Iraq asked Iranian for advisers to set up the PMU, who pushed ISIS back.

Western presence in Iraq does not suit us at all. Why do you think we helped Iraqi militias fight US occupying forces for years after the invasion? Because Iran wanted to expedite the US exit of the country. Iran didn't like hundreds of thousands of US troops on its western border, and tens of thousands more on its eastern border.

The US, by the way, has no right to "tolerate" Iraqi PMU. That is for the Iraqi government to do, and they do.

What are you even on about?
Where do you think all the vast majority arms/equipments/air cover/logistics of Iraqi forces/PMU comes from? lol
Moreover, the PMU didn't collapse because of our "weak" training/support/equipments. They collapse BACK THEN due to corruption of the elsewhile sectarian Shia Maliki regime and lack of political will. Only a very naïve person will think your military is more professional than U S/Britain/western military.

Moreover, you are right, just like the other Iraqi member @TheCamelGuy said Iran and Assad regime in Syria openly supported not just Shias militias back then against U.S and British troops in Iraq after the fall of Saddam, but they also supported even the Baathist fighters(today called ISIS) and many other terrorists group who agreed to fight U S/U.K troops in the country (funny enough they are now also fighting against some of these groups today) That's common knowledge as well.

 

[Serpentine]

PMU comes from? lol
Moreover, the PMU didn't collapse because of our "weak" training/support/equipments.

Bro,I think you don't know what PMU is, it was established after ISIS 2014 surge.It didn't collapse anytime anywhere and it was the main force that prevented ISIS from more advance and kicked their *** everywhere it confronted them. Also, PMU doesn't receive any equipment from US coalition, for obvious reasons. Because they have good relation with Iran and receive arms/support from Iran all the time.