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Originally appeared at Russia Beyond the Headlines

Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov’s recent statement has caused alarm in India, forcing the Russian Embassy in New Delhi to issue a clear-cut statement reiterating that Moscow will never take any step ‘detrimental’ to the security and safety of its privileged strategic partner India. Source: TASS

A spectre is haunting Indian minds — the spectre of a Russia-China-Pakistan ‘Axis’ directed against India’s security and vital interests. At least judging by local media comments and academic discourse one gets this impression.

Of course, who doesn’t know about the ‘all-weather’ China-Pakistan relationship, but on this backdrop India’s old and time-tested friend Russia warming up to Pakistan has stolen the good night’s sleep of many strategists and analysts and caused a storm in the web based social media.

The Russia-China-Pakistan axis bogey is generally raised in the Indian media by a powerful pro-American lobby, which is prodding the (Narendra) Modi government to jump on the US bandwagon in containing China and stop buying arms from Russia. But do they understand the costs of such policy for the common Indian?

We get media reports daily about ‘cash-strapped’ Russia selling this or that lethal weapon to Pakistan, but so far only the report of selling 4-5 Mi-35M assault helicopters for anti-terror operations has been officially confirmed.

During their recent Russia visits Pakistan Defence Minister Khawaja Asif and Army Chief General Raheel Sharif evinced their interest in acquiring cutting-edge Russian weapons. There have been reports of Pakistan taking interest in buying Sukhoi Su-35 multirole state-of-the-art fighters, which has raised the BP of many strategic pundits in New Delhi.

In this context I recall former Russian Prime Minister Yevgeny Primakov’s book “Years in Big Politics” (original Russian title: Gody v Bolshoi Politike) published in 1999. Since the Soviet collapse Academician Primakov was chief of the Russian Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR) till his appointment as Foreign Minister in January 1996 by President Boris Yeltsin.

He writes that in early 1990s Pakistan had requested for Sukhoi Su-27 fighters from Russia, which were the best warplane at that time. According to Primakov, the Russian Foreign Ministry (then headed by Andrei Kozyrev) had cleared the deal. However, the Kremlin referred it to SVR.

“We asked the Pakistani side, do they have funds to buy the planes? They replied, yes, they have agreement with Saudi Arabia. We cross-checked through our channels and found it was not true. SVR established that it was a grand foreign plot to scuttle Russia’s military-technical cooperation with India,” former Russian Prime Minister Primakov wrote in his book
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Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov’s recent statement on the sidelines of Arms Expo in Nizhny Tagil has caused alarm in India, forcing the Russian Embassy in New Delhi to issue a clear-cut statement reiterating that Moscow will never take any step ‘detrimental’ to the security and safety of its privileged strategic partner India. It described the furore in Indian media over the agency report as ‘over reaction’.


So, what is the reality? My over three decades of experience of covering Russia has taught me never to depend on translation of the original Russian text, as the Russian language is so rich that one and the same word may have many meanings, depending on the context. So, I naturally went to the original agency copy in English, which caused euphoria in the Pakistani web community and despair in India.

Mr. Ryabkov called Pakistan as Russia’s ‘nearest neighbour’ (geographically) and a partner looking for developing relations in not only in defence, but also in many spheres including energy. But the English translation of the same news story described Pakistan as Russia’s ‘closest partner’ in South Asia, which de facto questions the privileged strategic partnership with India.

However, factually it is just not true, but explains the ‘over reaction’ of the Indian media. Perhaps, that’s why the Russian Embassy in New Delhi was forced to issue an unprecedented denial, reiterating Moscow’s commitment to the Strategic Partnership Declaration of 2000, where both Russia and India have taken obligations not to indulge into activities ‘detrimental’ to the security of other party.

The Russia-Pakistan bogey was first raised after Russian Defence Minister Sergei Shoigu’s November 2014 Islamabad visit, when the two countries signed a defence cooperation agreement. To be frank, such agreements are a common thing in the diplomatic practice of the nations formally not at war. So what? India also holds joint war games with the Chinese military. Not only this, for over a decade we have interacted with China at the highest level in the Russia-India-China triangle, is it an anti-Pakistan triangle?

Moreover both New Delhi and Islamabad are in the process of joining the Russia-China-led Shanghai Cooperation Organisation, with the prime goal of combating terrorism, extremism and separatism – the problems of main concern for India. Pakistan will now have to prove its commitment to the common goal to other fellow members of this regional organisation.

In view of the imminent US withdrawal from Afghanistan, Russia sees Pakistan as a key player in its neighbourhood, which can play either a stabilising or destabilising role, in both cases a mechanism of interaction is a must. According to a former top general of Soviet General Staff, during their Afghan campaign the Soviets maintained constant contact with the Pakistani ISI.

During their Afghan consultations, India and Russia have repeatedly agreed that Pakistan has a role in post-war dispensation in Afghanistan. Russian fears about extremist spill-over into the secular post-Soviet regimes of Central Asia, home to millions of ethnic Russians.

If that is so, why should Moscow not adopt a pro-active stance in involving Islamabad in its own calculus? Even China is wary of ISIL spilling over to its Muslim-dominated Eastern Turkistan and is also adopting the complex economic strategy to engage Pakistan.

What concerns Russia’s alliance with China, the developments here are logical continuation of their interaction over past decades and not the result of US-led Western sanctions over Ukraine. Gas and pipelines going to China are not new projects. What concerns Central Asia, objectively Russia and China are both rivals and partners and by joining SCO India also can play its positive role in the development of the region by partnering with Moscow, which unlike Chinese ‘One Road One Belt’ (OROB) project, wants to revive not only Silk Road, but all the ancient trade routes crisscrossing huge Eurasian land mass of former Soviet Union in all directions.

As a responsible regional power with the ambitions of becoming global power, India should use the opportunities opening with Russia’s economic activities in our neighborhood


. Here's Why India is Vitally Interested in Good Russia Relations
 
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India is reading too much into it.

Russia-Pakistan relationship is not anti-India.

It is just Pakistan opening up to all countries including Russia. See, Indians tell us the same regarding Iran, Saudi, etc etc. and I completely agree with that. India should also start believing what it tells others to believe, no? :-)
 
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India is reading too much into it.

Russia-Pakistan relationship is not anti-India.

It is just Pakistan opening up to all countries including Russia. See, Indians tell us the same regarding Iran, Saudi, etc etc. and I completely agree with that. India should also start believing what it tells others to believe, no? :-)


And i do believe you.

And in order to replace india as a customer of russia you will have to beat the indian budget which it spends with russia. Now i say good luck with that. :-)
 
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And i do believe you.

And in order to replace india as a customer of russia you will have to beat the indian budget which it spends with russia. Now i say good luck with that. :-)

Why would we have to do anything to beat India, we are not in competition with India regarding our relationship with Russia.

We are just looking for new markets, pure business. Thats it. :big_boss:
 
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Why would we have to anything, we are not in competition with India regarding our relationship with Russia.

We are just looking for new markets, pure business. Thats it. :big_boss:

Business does not come with empty talks and rhetoric, needs hard cash.
And russia is not a charity, sooner you learn good for you.
 
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Business does not come with empty talks and rhetoric, needs hard cash.
And russia is not a charity, sooner you learn good for you.

Thanks for your concern, let us Pakistanis worry about the cash and stuff. :-)

Meanwhile you worry about 2.3 million Indians applying for 300 odd peon jobs despite having trillions of dollars of cash you are bragging about, :lol:

@[Bregs] apologies man, but that post asked for it.
 
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I wonder why certain section of media projects India like a possessive spouse??
How can one forget the deal India struck with Russia to jointly produce kamkov-226 ???
Pak has a long way to go before it strikes a similar deal with Russia.
 
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Dear we don't talk like some ambitious empty pocket people who were buying 126 Rafael.
When we talk we go for it be it RD 93 , Mi 35 or Su35 .
India is acting like a desperate child running here and their .
It like a woman when saw a rich man run to him the next moment she saw a handsome she run to him and the list goes on .
India needs American technology Russia's friendship France reliability etc etc which are impossible all together
Business does not come with empty talks and rhetoric, needs hard cash.
And russia is not a charity, sooner you learn good for you.
 
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No doubt if this deal goes through, it will leave a considerable impact on strategic calculus of subcontinent. But then, we Indians must understand that when a country moves up in the rank, she must learn to stand on her own feet for strategic platforms like cutting edge fighter jets and nuclear subs. China did the same and now they have almost reached there. Believe me, if SU 35 goes to Pakistan, it will be a blessing in disguise for India. We need to learn a lot from China.

As far as India-Russia relations are concerned, we will remain close partners in foreseeable future. At present, the power equations/structures/balance of the world is very unstable and both the countries need each other.

For our Pakistani friends- Good Luck with new potential possibilities. But then, remember, it might give India a few more strings to pull up in Islamabad considering the fact that India will continue to have considerable influence in Moscow in foreseeable future.
 
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I wonder why certain section of media projects India like a possessive spouse??
How can one forget the deal India struck with Russia to jointly produce kamkov-226 ???
Pak has a long way to go before it strikes a similar deal with Russia.
Similar deals...lol...it will take them at least 2 decades to learn how to deal with Russia! India has invested huge in its relationship with today's Russia so we got we have today but that was not the case during Soviet Union.!!...In every deal Russia has escalated the prices, delayed the delivery, added more clauses........and India agreed to that may be unwillingly because Russia was leveraging its oil and gas reserve deals with India...now oil not playing a deal winner, they might target the most vulnerable and desperate countries like Pakistan!
 
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I wonder why certain section of media projects India like a possessive spouse??
How can one forget the deal India struck with Russia to jointly produce kamkov-226 ???
Pak has a long way to go before it strikes a similar deal with Russia.

But the question is not whether Russia is doing Business with India or not. The question is why is Russia doing Business with Pakistan.
 
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India is reading too much into it.

Russia-Pakistan relationship is not anti-India.

It is just Pakistan opening up to all countries including Russia. See, Indians tell us the same regarding Iran, Saudi, etc etc. and I completely agree with that. India should also start believing what it tells others to believe, no? :-)

1st time I have seen you giving a srsly reply in Indian threads

I wonder why certain section of media projects India like a possessive spouse??
How can one forget the deal India struck with Russia to jointly produce kamkov-226 ???
Pak has a long way to go before it strikes a similar deal with Russia.

Same here,PK will not threaten our relationship with Russia
 
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But the question is not whether Russia is doing Business with India or not. The question is why is Russia doing Business with Pakistan.
That's simple... desperate times call for desperate measures.
 
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