Help Identifying two Indian Medals please

[Wolfhunter]

Pakistani/Indian friends, I have recently inherited my great grandfathers medals from my family. I have been able to track down most of them, two of them elude me as to what they are, this one in particular:

The medal reads " For Service in India" and has the seal of King George on the reverse - It's definitely not the Indian Service Medal or the Darbar medal.

 

[Maula Jatt]

Are your ancestors from Pakistan? Or you are white but just served in the British Indian?

I have a feeling it's a civllian medal

 

[RescueRanger]

Pakistani/Indian friends, I have recently inherited my great grandfathers medals from my family. I have been able to track down most of them, two of them elude me as to what they are, this one in particular:

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The medal reads " For Service in India" and has the seal of King George on the reverse - It's definitely not the Indian Service Medal or the Darbar medal.

That's the Kaisar-i-Hind Medal, they were three categories bronze, silver, gold. Awarded by the Emperor of India for distinguished service in the advancement of the interests of the British Raj.

I would definitely insure that medal if I were you. Get it valued too. These were like Indian versions of MBE's.

You're grandfather must have been someone quite important to earn one of these. I hope I've helped you.

 

[Bilal9]

Pakistani/Indian friends, I have recently inherited my great grandfathers medals from my family. I have been able to track down most of them, two of them elude me as to what they are, this one in particular:

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The medal reads " For Service in India" and has the seal of King George on the reverse - It's definitely not the Indian Service Medal or the Darbar medal.

Here is a similar WWI cap badge (not medal). Your best bet is to take these to some military historian society in the UK (or a vendor as linked below) who are familiar with this type of military regalia. Some of them will be able to help you as some in the UK are avid British Raj period aficionados.

From the almost similar pattern in the second image it seems that it was for WWI gallantry and service but for India and not the rest of the commonwealth. Yours is more ornate (and probably of later vintage) than the one below.

WW1 Raised Household Battalion Cavalry Regiment Cap Badge

This is an original WW1 Household Battalion Regiment Cap Badge for sale. In good condition. Please see our other items for more original WW1, WW2 & post war British military cap badges for sale including other Household Battalion Regiment cap badges.

www.britishmilitarybadges.co.uk

Complete list of recipients of this medal

Kaisar-i-Hind Medal

The Kaisar-i-Hind Medal for Public Service in India was a medal awarded by the Emperor/Empress of India between 1900 and 1947, to "any person without distinction of race, occupation, position, or sex ... who shall have distinguished himself (or herself) by important and useful service in the advance

thereaderwiki.com

 

[Wolfhunter]

Are your ancestors from Pakistan? Or you are white but just served in the British Indian?

I have a feeling it's a civllian medal

My paternal family were convert Christians from British India what is now Pakistan, but both my father and I were born here in England.

Here is a similar WWI cap badge (not medal). Your best bet is to take these to some military historian society in the UK (or a vendor as linked below) who are familiar with this type of military regalia. Some of them will be able to help you as some in the UK are avid British Raj period aficionados.

From the almost similar pattern in the second image it seems that it was for WWI gallantry and service but for India and not the rest of the commonwealth. Yours is more ornate (and probably of later vintage) than the one below.

WW1 Raised Household Battalion Cavalry Regiment Cap Badge

This is an original WW1 Household Battalion Regiment Cap Badge for sale. In good condition. Please see our other items for more original WW1, WW2 & post war British military cap badges for sale including other Household Battalion Regiment cap badges.

www.britishmilitarybadges.co.uk

Complete list of recipients of this medal

Kaisar-i-Hind Medal

The Kaisar-i-Hind Medal for Public Service in India was a medal awarded by the Emperor/Empress of India between 1900 and 1947, to "any person without distinction of race, occupation, position, or sex ... who shall have distinguished himself (or herself) by important and useful service in the advance

thereaderwiki.com

Thank you very much and thank you @RescueRanger too, I will contact a local specialist next week regarding this one. Thanks once again.

 

[Maula Jatt]

My paternal family were convert Christians from British India what is now Pakistan, but both my father and I were born here in England.

Than You're my pakistani brother through blood
Where in Pakistan were your people from?
Most British army people were from Punjab and than pakhtunkhwa

You know why he was given this medal? Did he serve in the millitary or this was for purely civillian reasons?

Thank you very much and thank you @RescueRanger too, I will contact a local specialist next week regarding this one. Thanks once again.

That's the Kaisar-i-Hind Medal, they were three categories bronze, silver, gold. Awarded by the Emperor of India for distinguished service in the advancement of the interests of the British Raj.

I would definitely insure that medal if I were you. Get it valued too. These were like Indian versions of MBE's.

You're grandfather must have been someone quite important to earn one of these. I hope I've helped you.

Oh so they can be for anything not just millitary? Intresting

 

[Wolfhunter]

Than You're my pakistani brother through blood
Where in Pakistan were your people from?
Most British army people were from Punjab and than pakhtunkhwa

You know why he was given this medal? Did he serve in the millitary or this was for purely civillian reasons?



Oh so they can be for anything not just millitary? Intresting

Sorry for the late reply, I didn't mean to ignore you or appear rude, I was at work .

Where in Pakistan were your people from?

Originally my Great-Grandfather was from NWFP while my Grandfather who was a physician lived in Karachi pre-partition, and he moved to London after partition.

Did he serve in the millitary or this was for purely civillian reasons?

Both my great-grandfather and grandfather from my mothers and fathers side fought in the 1st and 2nd World Wars respectively. These medals are from my paternal great-grandfather was a saddler sergeant with the 82nd Light Transport Company and saw action on the Western Front.

My great-grandfather held an MA in English and an MA Persian and was a headteacher by profession, he ran two free schools, his biggest school was in Peshawar on Cinema Road where Ambreena Hotel stands today. Four years prior to his retirement he was made honorary magistrate for Peshawar.

My Great-grandfathers victory medal from WWI

These medals belong to my Grandfather for action in WWII he held what was known as an Indian Emergency Commission as a Major during WWII and was badged to the Royal Indian Army Service Corps. As you can see his medals also include the Pakistan Independence Medal(last one on the right)

 

[jamahir]

Right, the anti-Communist @Wolfhunter celebrates the British colonizers.

 

[Wolfhunter]

Right, the anti-Communist @Wolfhunter celebrates the British colonizers.

Can you please not!

 

[jamahir]

Can you please not!

Wow, why did you start using "Please" ? The last time we spoke you wanted to bash my face.

 

[Wolfhunter]

Wow, why did you start using "Please" ? The last time we spoke you wanted to bash my face.

Because I'd rather not argue. The entire reason I am bitter on this forum is people are inherently xenophobic and enjoy trolling. I'd rather not engage in trolling. So please if you would refrain from doing so, that would be nice.