Heli crashes in Azad Kashmir, four died

[solid snake]

When i heard the news for the first time thought that maybe the militants have taken it out and army is trying to hide it out. Anyhow it was a sign of relieve that it was a flame out and not due to militants. Still we lost 4 men. my condolences to the family of all who lost these brave men.

If they are trying to hide it, isn't that what they are going to tell you? that it was a flameout and not shot down by militants?

But if it really was militants, Mushy would have milked it for all it's worth. Another assasination attempt on him by the enemies of Pakistan would surely make him look good.

 

[F.O.X]

it is confirmed - PUMA helicopter which crashed - these birds are getting old - they need a upgrade.

It was Mi-17 as far as i know. PUMA dont go on security of Musharaf. There were three Helis, one carrying Musharaf All of them were of same type . Allah saved Musharaf again, i think it is the sign for those who hate him & say that he is going against Islam.

Regards
Wilco

 

[fatman17]

Wilco - u r right it was a Mi-17 but just imagine Gen W.Arshad of ISPR fame comes on Geo News and confirms it was a Puma Helicopter.!!!

 

[Spring Onion]

Fatman it was Puma

and if im not forgetting usually the president travel by the same.
Due to current situation he flews along with a formation of same Puma Helies and these fly in very decieving formation even when land no one exaclty knows which one Musharraf will be in.

Wilco MI-17 are not used usually for carrying five or less people rather these are used mainly for transportaion.

 

[fatman17]

Dawn reports Mi-17 and ISPR reports Puma - I guess we go with ISPR then
thx

 

[Spring Onion]

It was Puma

No MI-17 flew yestrday.

 

[F.O.X]

OK.
Tnx for confirmation.

Regards
Wilco

 

[dabong1]

Zia died in a "plane crash" when he was not needed anymore.
With BB and nawaaz offering to let AQ Khan be interrogated and opening access to pak nuclear facilities to the IAEA/CIA how long will mushy be needed?

Mushy will probably offer the same things when he thinks he is about to lose power.

 

[MIG_ACE]

Zia died in a "plane crash" when he was not needed anymore.
With BB and nawaaz offering to let AQ Khan be interrogated and opening access to pak nuclear facilities to the IAEA/CIA how long will mushy be needed?

Are you suggesting that the USA was involved in Zia's death? I am not challenging your claim.But its an interesting (and acc to me unlikely) theory.

 

[dabong1]

Are you suggesting that the USA was involved in Zia's death? I am not challenging your claim.But its an interesting (and acc to me unlikely) theory.

The Israeli secret agency Mossad most probably killed Gen. Zia ul- Haq, suspects John Gunther Dean, who was the American ambassador to India in 1988, according to an article in the latest issue of World Policy Journal by Barbara Crossette, who was the South Asia Bureau Chief of the New York Times from 1988 to 1991.

When Dean expressed his views to the State Department at the time and insisted on a thorough investigation of the Israeli-Indian axis, he was accused of mental imbalance and relieved of his duties.

World Policy Journal - Fall 2005

That not me saying it but a former American ambassador to India.
To me the CIA is a junior partner to MOSSAD.

 

[Tiki Tam Tam]

Zia's crash could have been organised by anyone, including people in Pakistan.

His autocratic and stupid regime ensured enemies domestically and internationally!

As we see, he has done the maximum damage to Pakistan; and today, to a great extent, we can thank Zia for the problems that Pakistan is facing, which even an emancipated and far thinking man like Musharraf cannot solve.

I shed no tears for this man Zia.

Had he not done weird things just to ensure he remains in power, Paksitan would have been a different nation, progressive and thriving. Musharraf has turned around Pakistan, but the Zia followers are ensuring everything to ensure that Pakistan remains in a limbo!

Zia was a power hungry and a selfish man and his son is no better!

 

[fatman17]

Salim - i totally agree with your assessment of Zia - he was the main reason I resigned from my army commission in 77.

 

[Tiki Tam Tam]

Fatman,

It pleases me no ends that you are an army man.

Infantry?

 

[IceCold]

Zia died in a "plane crash" when he was not needed anymore.
With BB and nawaaz offering to let AQ Khan be interrogated and opening access to pak nuclear facilities to the IAEA/CIA how long will mushy be needed?

Mushy will probably offer the same things when he thinks he is about to lose power.

This is soo true. NS and BB are all traitors, making deals with them (BB) in the name of reconsillation has made musharraf's creditability doubtful.

 

[fatman17]

salim - 7th Punjab regt.