Headscarf Martyr

[Unbeliever]

I see my post was easily misunderstood. I was not accusing members of this forum of hypocrisy, but the Muslim community in general. Because I saw people demonstrating because of this and it mentioned in newspapers all over the Muslim world, but never because of the crimes I mentioned.

And against the Iraq War, the largest demonstration in the history of mankind took place. 36 Million people, most of them in the West, went out on the streets. So don't say "nobody is sympathetic". Not true.
Of course the West isn't immune to hypocrisy, but it terms of outrage shown by the societies as a whole their are differences.

The largest Muslim demonstrations took place over cartoons in a newspaper in Denmark(trying to enforce early forms of dhimmitude or enforce Islamic Laws on non Muslims through the threat of violence..)
The largest western once were against the Iraq War, a war against Muslims..


This isn't the first incident like this in German courtrooms(yes I know, that is a shame). A Muslim actually stabbed a German women in court too a year or two ago (I will search for the article), but I guess this news didn't even make it to this forum.. and that is kind of my point.

 

[Awesome]

When some Russian guy(non Muslim) in Germany kills a Muslim women its outrage all over the world.. But when - once a week - some Muslim girl or women is murdered by her brother/father who also happens to be Muslim for some honor bullshit.. Not a word..
Call me crazy, but that is so incredibly hypocritical...

This is, other than all the violence in connection with the twisted perverse idea of honor many Muslims here apparently have, an isolated incident. So of course it is sad, but it should not be a cause for "hysteria" of any kind (made up term no 1. "Islamophobia", there is no such thing, not if you know what a phobia is)...

That this could happen in a court is the only thing about this that is shocking, but that is what you get when you are forced to have a hippie judiciary/criminal law.
I want three strikes law (for violent offenses) and some U.S. style law&order policy here.. All the scum on the streets and now you are not even safe from them in a courtroom? That is so fucked up..

Dude the barbarity of the murder was really disturbing. That too, the Muslim husband going for her rescue gets shot while the attacker lives.

It puts serious doubts in everyone's minds if the security of the Muslim girl was even the primary concern. Who knows how many more present in the court may have been racially motivated to just watch the "Islamist" get stabbed after she had embarrassed the non-Muslims by winning a court case.

 

[Awesome]

Ok now this jackass had already caught her, started stabbing her and then the husband jumped to save her but the police guy who was standing right on the side with a clear shot, ended up mistaking the husband as the killer?

What bakwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaas... The western media is working round the clock to put spins and bury the incident. Sickening.

---------- Post added at 07:14 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:12 PM ----------

I see my post was easily misunderstood. I was not accusing members of this forum of hypocrisy, but the Muslim community in general. Because I saw people demonstrating because of this and it mentioned in newspapers all over the Muslim world, but never because of the crimes I mentioned.

And against the Iraq War, the largest demonstration in the history of mankind took place. 36 Million people, most of them in the West, went out on the streets. So don't say "nobody is sympathetic". Not true.
Of course the West isn't immune to hypocrisy, but it terms of outrage shown by the societies as a whole their are differences.

The largest Muslim demonstrations took place over cartoons in a newspaper in Denmark(trying to enforce early forms of dhimmitude or enforce Islamic Laws on non Muslims through the threat of violence..)
The largest western once were against the Iraq War, a war against Muslims..


This isn't the first incident like this in German courtrooms(yes I know, that is a shame). A Muslim actually stabbed a German women in court too a year or two ago (I will search for the article), but I guess this news didn't even make it to this forum.. and that is kind of my point.

Dude first of all your behavior is of a jackass that you're bending your back to defend this asshole. The outrage is on people like you, not on the incident. Its the "bury it" attitude so no one has to face the accusations from the Muslim camp for a change.

Pathetic.

 

[Unbeliever]

The barbarity of female genital mutilation(or most of Sharia Law for that matter) is even more disturbing and disgusting, yet it is common practice in many Muslim countries...

So your attempt at relativism fails and your insults reveal you haven't really read my posts or at least not understood them..

I'm not trying to bury anything, this should and is being talked about(over here especially). But it is amazing how easily the whole Muslim world is apparently victimized when the criminal is a non-Muslim and yet the barbarism of a husband slaughtering his daughters and his wife with 40 stabbings because his so called "honor"(as if he knew what that word means) was stained, or a man beheading his wife with a scimitar because she was living to "westernized"(some might call it liberated) doesn't even make the news in Egypt.

Having lived in Germany all my life I can assure you there was no negligence out of a racist motive to protect the Muslim women or there would be hell to pay. The guards apparently were just too surprised to act decisively and effectively, which is a shame, but has happened before where the murderer was a Muslim and the victim a white women. So court security must be raised, but Germany could not possibly be any more "racism aware" than it is already.
I really would like to see 500.000 Germans living in Pakistan, the women wearing Bikinis on the beach the man drinking and shouting/singing/dancing like at the Oktoberfest and then we will see who should talk to whom about tolerance and racism...

See in Germany if you defend yourself against non-white attackers, you might get charged with "non-proportionate response because of racism" nowadays. So you conspiracy theories couldn't be further from the truth.


It is a nice try though to spread the myth of "Islamophobia" and further radicalize uneducated Muslims against "the West" with these rumors. It is great stuff for Al-Quaida and friends to use as propaganda, I get that, but do you really want to jump onto that bandwagon?

 

[afriend]

This is really shocking and highly condemnable. But i belive this may be an isolated incident of a larger problem. Muslims distancing themselves from other communities and hatred of other communities against muslims...!!!

 

[afriend]

I see my post was easily misunderstood. I was not accusing members of this forum of hypocrisy, but the Muslim community in general. Because I saw people demonstrating because of this and it mentioned in newspapers all over the Muslim world, but never because of the crimes I mentioned.

And against the Iraq War, the largest demonstration in the history of mankind took place. 36 Million people, most of them in the West, went out on the streets. So don't say "nobody is sympathetic". Not true.
Of course the West isn't immune to hypocrisy, but it terms of outrage shown by the societies as a whole their are differences.

The largest Muslim demonstrations took place over cartoons in a newspaper in Denmark(trying to enforce early forms of dhimmitude or enforce Islamic Laws on non Muslims through the threat of violence..)
The largest western once were against the Iraq War, a war against Muslims..


This isn't the first incident like this in German courtrooms(yes I know, that is a shame). A Muslim actually stabbed a German women in court too a year or two ago (I will search for the article), but I guess this news didn't even make it to this forum.. and that is kind of my point.

Well i agree with you, i believe Muslim community should protest against the radicalisation of a society. The point i believe Unbeliever is trying to make is, Muslim community should come out to protest all kind of injustice that is happening in, with or related to Muslim community. Not just a killing of a Muslim by non Muslim..!!! And he says we should get the big picture rather than accusing the whole west and throwing stones at them whenever such unfortunate incident happens!!! After all their justice system offers justice for all and doesn't discriminate between any religious classes.. so blaming the whole of west for such unfortunate incident is not right..!!

 

[Awesome]

This is really shocking and highly condemnable. But i belive this may be an isolated incident of a larger problem. Muslims distancing themselves from other communities and hatred of other communities against muslims...!!!

Thats the exact same argument that people say that its America's fault that 9/11 happened. Or its India's fault that the Mumbai incident happened...

Ridiculous.