Hate Speech in a Secular State

[jbond197]

so is that a different language from urdu or is it a different dialect?

different dialect kind of like Mumbaiya.. you may have heard of it in bollywood movies..

 

[Bang Galore]

so is that a different language from urdu or is it a different dialect?

Dakhini (Urdu: دکنی&#8206 also spelled Dakkhani and Deccani, arose as a Muslim court language of the Deccan Plateau ca. 1300 AD in ways similar to Urdu. It is similar to Urdu in its influence of Persian with a Hindi base, but differs in its strong influence from Arabic, Urdu, Konkani and Marathi, and its Telugu surroundings in Andhra Pradesh.

Dakhini is spoken in the Deccan plateau region of India. Just as Urdu developed in Lucknow, Dakhini developed in Deccan plateau parallel to Urdu with the mixing of various Indian based languages (like Khari Boli), Arabic and Persian based languages. The term Dakhini is perhaps an umbrella for a group of dialects spoken by certain communities of Muslims in the Deccan region.

Dakhini was the lingua franca of the Muslims of Deccan, chiefly living in Hyderabad state, Mysore state and the Hyderabad–Karnataka Region, covering most of Deccan plateau except for Moplah Muslims of Kerala and the Labbewaar Muslims in Tamil Nadu in the south, to the Beary Bhashe language and Konkani speaking Muslims along the western coast of Karnataka, Goa and Maharashtra. Though, a minor Segment of Kerala Muslims do speak the Dakhini dialect and identify themself as Dakhini Muslims who follows Hanafi Fiqh(Hanafi School of Islamic Jurisprudence).

Dakhni for all practical purposes today is an oral language which is flexible enough to be visually represented by different scripts like Devanagari or Urdu or even Persian. Dakhini was widely spoken across the Deccan plateau peninsula with subtle changes in the dialect as you go down south away from Hyderabad, ending as a heavily Tamilized version around the middle of Tamil Nadu.

Dakhini mainly spoken by the Muslims living in these areas can also be divided into 2 dialects:

North Dakhini - Spoken in areas of Former Hyderabad State: Mainly Hyderabad City, Telangana Region, Marathwada, Hyderabad-Karnataka, Gulbarga, Bidar & Raichur in Present day Karnataka, minority native Goan Konkani Muslims in the Uttara Kannada district of Karnataka with some variation of Nawayath, and Goan Muslim dialect in Goa.

South Dakhini - Spoken along Central Karnataka, Bangalore, North Tamil Nadu, Southern Andhra Pradesh extending up-til Chennai and Nellore in Andhra Pradesh . These were the areas under the Mysore and Carnatic sultanates and a Minor Dakhini Muslim community of Kerala.

North Dakhini is spoken with an added influence of pure Urdu and while South Dakhini draws slightly more influences from Marathi, Kannada and Tamil, it has quite a number of original words not to be found in Urdu or Northern Dakhini, with even a slightly varied grammar and sentence structuring. This particularly points towards possible signs that Dakhini as a language in its own sense could have evolved from the Southern parts much more than the Northern variation.

This tongue is used extensively in the spoken form; when it comes to writing and literary work, standard Urdu is used.

Dakhini - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[selvan33]

Casualties in gujarat(2002);

790 Muslims 254 Hindus
790 Muslims, 254 Hindus perished in post-Godhra - Times Of India

 

[Koovie]

@mods Please remove this thread from the defense section! Is it so difficult to understand that this is not defense related?

Just deport all those Hindu, Muslim, Christian, Sikh religious idiots to an island and let them kill off each other where no one fukcing cares.

 

[Spring Onion]

Ok, I see you mean to say Muslims has god given right to bad mouth about any one and if some one point out to it then it becomes shameless targeting of Muslims. By the way this thread is about an individual not any religion. You as a Pakistani brought the victimization card and attacking on Muslims and what not in to the debate.

Not this thread. Your comment about supply of Muslim girls to Arab Sheikh was indeed in bad taste and reflects poorly on your mentality that in a process to show Indian Muslims in bad light you can stoop this low not taking into consideration tha supply of women irrespective of any community is a universal issue.

different dialect kind of like Mumbaiya.. you may have heard of it in bollywood movies..

thats not dialect. thats SLANG.

dakni is a pure form of Urdu.

 

[ashok321]

Casualties in gujarat(2002);

790 Muslims 254 Hindus
790 Muslims, 254 Hindus perished in post-Godhra - Times Of India

People spreading lies on Godhra issue should apologise: Modi
Indianexpress.com : comments : People spreading lies on Godhra issue should apologise: Modi

 

[ashok321]

Indianexpress.com : comments : Godhra case: Court rules death for 11, 20 imprisoned for life

Kisne aag lagai?
Famous words of atal bajpayee in goa.

 

[KS]

Such leaders exist in both communities . Rememeber Babu Bajrangi ??

Such people need to be sidelined not to be brought in limelight . You are giving them what they want . Attention .

I'm sorry..but thats a bullshit comparison if there was ever one. Unlike Babu Bajrangi who is rotting away in a prison and who did not hold any constitutional post, this guy is an MLA and is the floor leader of MIM in Andhra Assembly.

10 days have passed since his hatefilled venom, the police have not taken cognisance, the so called "secular" political class has not speaken up and if not for the outrage on social media and the video going viral even the main stream "secular" english media would have buried it. Now this guy is in London apparently.

Well, he wants to remove the police for 15 minutes..but apparently by their own statements, police was removed for 2 days in gujarat..we all know what happened.

And the scary thing was not this guttersnipe uttering those words..but the huge crowd doing the nara-e-takbirrs and allahu-akbars when he was uttering those words. No one could say they did not have it coming. Ever wonder why Balasaheb got 3 million people on the roads for his funeral..thats because he castrated guys like these in Mumbai. And dont get it wrong..the telengana people are not as soft as Mumbaikars.

 

[Arav_Rana]

I think he is MLA from the party MIM. MIM has some MP and MLA. We can ignore this idiot, but look at the crowd cheering him. Mim has TV channel, and this guy akbar gave many speech in different districts. And MIM channel broadcast his all speech. So just look at the no of people who are following his idea.
And such type of people ll keep muslims backward for next decades and muslims ll keep blaming to others for their own problem.

 

[KS]

There is already a case filed on him . Judgement will come soon . Don't blow it out of proportions .

It NEEDS to be blown out of proportion. Because in a pissing match like this guy wants, who do you think will suffer the most..yes you guessed it correct - the common Muslim. Guys like these will come, utter all their words, charge up the atmosphere, incite the riots and when the retaliation happens start crying victim. This has become a pattern over the years and this needs to STOP. NOW>

third rate trash talk to titillate the poor people of hyderabadi ghettos.

This was not in Hyderabad...it was in Adilabad jalsa. And check out his utterances in the Nizamabad jalsa too. This guy pisses in his pants for one local history sheeter from Barkas (Hyd) and he wants to take on the 100 cr Hindus ? Thats got "suicide" written all over it.

These Ghettos are their vote banks where illiterate and poor are disillusioned that some great Khalifa will come and they will suddenly get rich and happy . Easier to dream than work hard to achieve it eh .....

Illiterate hardly. Poor..nah.

Check out the Akbaruddin Owaisi - Youth Icon fan page on FB to see the language that is being used.

 

[KS]

Just go and read your beloved Times of India comments section. By law your ToI should be booked for promoting hate magterial against Islam and its last Prophet.

Last time I checked those "anonymous" TOI commentors were not MLAs and Floor Leaders in Andhra Assembly. There is a difference.

Just deport all those Hindu, Muslim, Christian, Sikh religious idiots to an island and let them kill off each other where no one fukcing cares.

I dont understand how hard it is to condemn these speeches without playing the cliched equal-equal card.

 

[Spring Onion]

Last time I checked those "anonymous" TOI commentors were not MLAs and Floor Leaders in Andhra Assembly. There is a difference.

No difference ToI is a big media entity working under Indian Laws and its moderation team is violating the law by deliberatly allowing abuse of Prophet of Islam by its readers.

I dont understand how hard it is to condemn these speeches without playing the cliched equal-equal card.

as hard as it is for you to accept the reality about equal-equal card by terming it a clich

 

[ashok321]

No difference ToI is a big media entity working under Indian Laws and its moderation team is violating the law by deliberatly allowing abuse of Prophet of Islam by its readers.

Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/indian-defence/227641-hate-speech-secular-state-4.html#ixzz2GtxPm4hp

You failed to see that it was muslims who started with religion stuff n abused hindu gods like ganesha.

Finally FIR filed against low life scoundrel........
Breaking news....

 

[KS]

No difference ToI is a big media entity working under Indian Laws and its moderation team is violating the law by deliberatly allowing abuse of Prophet of Islam by its readers.

Perhaps you did not understand so I'll repeat - those "anonymous" TOI commentors were not MLAs and Floor Leaders in Andhra Assembly

as hard as it is for you to accept the reality about equal-equal card by terming it a clich

There is no hardness..I would always like to comment on the situation in hand..in this case Owaisi. so stick with that.

 

[Koovie]

Last time I checked those "anonymous" TOI commentors were not MLAs and Floor Leaders in Andhra Assembly. There is a difference.



I dont understand how hard it is to condemn these speeches without playing the cliched equal-equal card.

It does not matter which religion a radical belongs to, anyone placing religion before humanity is a threat to humanity and world peace, anyone ready to use violence for it is a pitiful creature that needs to be removed from society.