Hate Speech in a Secular State

[cyphercide]

I am looking forward to his reaction ....

Does it really matter? The real reason for this hatred is something far more deeper, pervasive and extremist in it's nature. Most Indian news channels are pontificating over Owaisi's speech(like they suddenly give a sh*t about Hindus now) but fail to ever report such rhetoric is common language used in everyday mosques around India. The hatred is so extreme that the Islamists now take out their rallies and become violent in cases that don't even involve India as a party. Heck, they wanted to carry out attacks in India over Rohingya Muslims!!! The sad reality is that the rot has traveled far too deep while we are content in dissecting what comes out at the surface. Owaisi is merely a symptom of a far greater disease.

 

[dravidianhero]

Sorry to say but you cant be a good muslim and patriotic indian at the same time.I know muslims dont follow everything tht their religion preaches(ex muslims consume alcohol as much as hindus) but for them idolatry is the worst of sins.From my research of islam,I came to a conclusion that you are not a good muslim if you love an idolater.A muslim need not hate an idolater but he should never love him as he is committing the biggest of all the sins tht is shirk.

 

[Azazel]

I would be the first person to be delighted if what you are saying is indeed true.Just place yourself in a muslim's shoes and ask this questions to yourself:
why should I love country of idolaters whom my religion despises to the core.
why should i love ppl who rejected true religion from god brought by the last prophet?

Oh,pls.One of my parent is a Muslim and let me tell you love for the country has nothing to do with religion.It has to do with our history,its the identification of a group of individuals with a nation.No matter which faith we belong we always will be Indian.Faith is irrelevant in nationalism.And let me tell you those wishes to create a national identity based solely on religion will never succeed.

 

[JanjaWeed]

Thanks to reverse communalism practiced by 'secular' forces... when so called 'secular' parties start communal mass mobilisation on emotional sectarian issues, they participate in a dangerous trend, contributing directly to the greater radicalisation of minority community. This is what you get when that happens. This sort of 'reverse communalism' is more dangerous than the actual one!!

 

[nair]

What reaction?? He will say Innocent Muslims were attacked by Evil Hindus which will be taken over by those who claim to be secularists.. Then all these hate speech and nonsense will be forgotten.. He will be branded as a hero and savior of minority.. Those called secular parties will be fighting to share stage with him... Here is an example

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The entire political spectrum was in bangalore today...... I dono if you have come across his speeches..... ( He has changed a lot - atleast on his speaches).......

there are hate mongers in all the communities...... how many people take them seriously???

 

[dravidianhero]

correction
ex muslims in my previous post should be read as example: muslims...

 

[Azazel]

Sorry to say but you cant be a good muslim and patriotic indian at the same time.I know muslims dont follow everything tht their religion preaches(ex muslims consume alcohol as much as hindus) but for them idolatry is the worst of sins.From my research of islam,I came to a conclusion that you are not a good muslim if you love an idolater.A muslim need not hate an idolater but he should never love him as he is committing the biggest of all the sins tht is shirk.

You are reading the wrong sort of books which are designed to create hatred.No religion in world has the right to say whom to love and who not to.Love existed even before the religions.And it will always exists even after all religions in this world vanishes.Those who make this sort of arguments are nothing, but idiots.

 

[Iggy]

The entire political spectrum was in bangalore today...... I dono if you have come across his speeches..... ( He has changed a lot - atleast on his speaches).......

there are hate mongers in all the communities...... how many people take them seriously???

I have dude and I hate this guy for his speeches..

Yea.. Some good years in jail changed him a lot!!

How some years of jail time make wonders in Madani's mind..

Madani should have a talk with this Owais guy about his wonderful time in Jail..

May be it will help him keep a lid on his mouth!!

 

[Azazel]

That doesn't mean you can propagate hatred & fanaticism at other times. I have watched the video & other such speeches of this gentleman, believe me.. it doesn't sound good at all. I was amazed to see that this guy was allowed to keep barking all this while without any hindrance from any quarters of rule or law!!

At least now they have taken attention,Hope the rule of law takes its due course.

 

[dravidianhero]

You are reading the wrong sort of books which are designed to create hatred.No religion in world has the right to say whom to love and who not to.Love existed even before the religions.And it will always exists even after all religions in this world vanishes.

ok brother.Whatever floats your boat.I read the entire quran with tafseer myself.The thing with quran is ar rahman and osama can both draw inspiration from it as meccan verses radically differ from medina verses.

 

[Iggy]

I would be the first person to be delighted if what you are saying is indeed true.Just place yourself in a muslim's shoes and ask this questions to yourself:
why should I love country of idolaters whom my religion despises to the core.
why should i love ppl who rejected true religion from god brought by the last prophet?

How about it is the country I was born in??

It is the country who gave me opportunity to become what I am?

What about there are people from different religion in my place who I see from childhood and some are my friends??

Dont tell me you don't see Muslims enjoying Deepawali and other festivals just like rest of us Indians here..

 

[Manas]

Some Hindu leaders have attacked Muslim community for terrorism , pakistan support or on the issue of Babri mosque in the past.

No hindu leader have ever talk disparaging about Islam or its prophet , the way this Haramzada Akbarruddin Owasi made fun of Lord Ram or Goddess laxmi or holy status of cow in the Hindu religion.

He even extorts muslims attack hindus on his behalf.

I put a Rs10 bounty on this guys head. Thats his real worth.

 

[Iggy]

Sorry to say but you cant be a good muslim and patriotic indian at the same time.I know muslims dont follow everything tht their religion preaches(ex muslims consume alcohol as much as hindus) but for them idolatry is the worst of sins.From my research of islam,I came to a conclusion that you are not a good muslim if you love an idolater.A muslim need not hate an idolater but he should never love him as he is committing the biggest of all the sins tht is shirk.

Most of the Muslims in here in India are not good Muslims by International standards.. These are mentioned by many here in this forum also.. Many religions which come from abroad absorbs lot of good practices from Hinduism..

Some Hindu leaders have attacked Muslim community for terrorism , pakistan support or on the issue of Babri mosque in the past.

No hindu leader have ever talk disparaging about Islam or its prophet , the way this Haramzada Akbarruddin Owasi made fun of Lord Ram or Goddess laxmi or holy status of cow in the Hindu religion.

He even extorts muslims attack hindus on his behalf.

I put a Rs10 bounty on this guys head. Thats his real worth.

You think he is a real Muslim?? I remember EjazR who is a proud Indian here in this forum mentioned that abusing other religion is not permitted in Islam..

 

[dravidianhero]

I am hitting the bed.I apologize to all level headed and miberal muslims if any of my posts came across as anti muslim.I dont hate anyone and i want everyone to live peacefully without meddling into others personal matters such as religion.I just wish muslims realize that they are not helping anyone's cause by isolating themselves and spewing venom at others.Let us keep religion to the limits of our houses only and realize tht no religion is perfect.
gud nite.

 

[Azazel]

ok brother.Whatever floats your boat.I read the entire quran with tafseer myself.The thing with quran is ar rahman and osama can both draw inspiration from it as meccan verses radically differ from medina verses.

Yeah I know,there are lot of contradictions.Its nothing new.If you start to discuss it,this discussion will go out of topic and you will be banned.So lets stick to the topic.