Not necessarily. You can not prove that if we want to see Moderate Muslim Bangladesh then we have feeble mind and less faith on our religious faith. We will want to see (simply as a Muslim) a Moderate Muslim Bangladesh is one thing, and we have our individual faith (more/less) on ourselves about religion is another thing.
7. Now Indian media is spreading that extremisms are growing in BD
8. Today BD is a threat for India in future (spread by Indian media)
My contention is Identity.
If one is confident of one’s identity then one does not require flaunting one’s religion as a shield. For instance, do I have to prove that I am an Indian? If I am good enough and confident, those who require knowing who am I will find out on their own. I don’t have to flaunt it as my visiting card. However, if I am not up to the mark, I will have to continuously have to make it known so that I am heard. What is important? Recognition by the stint of your work or by wearing religion on your sleeve?
Take China. It was an international pariah. But they have, with their galloping economy and hard work, has made it certain that they cannot be ignored anymore.
So, the actual bottomline is what you achieve which leads to respect and recognition and not by being related to high ups or what one’s religion is!!
As I have said earlier in the last post neither India, nor the Indian media is unduly perturbed about BD.
Bangladesh is no economic powerhouse and it is no geoplotical or geostrategic gamechanger.
So, who cares about Bangladesh being a threat?
Don’t assume things just to surface from the feeling that Bangladesh is being ignored, just because it is merely another speck in the horizon and nothing serious to be troubled about!
Yes religion is a very powerful emotion, and it has given Bangladeshi Muslims a reason to be united more strongly somehow, where the common thing is we all are Bangladeshis and have respect to each other. And about troubles caused by religions: what troubles BD has faced in its life? We known about the incidences of religious riot in India. Has BD ever seen any such thing?
-Well, if India is not Hindu state then why there is sill religious turmoil in some places, also has history of several big turmoils like Gujrat riot? And being Moderate Muslim Country we have no such records.
- WHy are you implying that we are remained in stone age. We know where cow pee is drunk! And where the record of marry between ............................and record of many more things.
I did not say anything on favor of Hujis. I just said the common people opposing AL's secularism are not fundamentalist.
You need to retake a course on India steadies, especially the Indian/"orange media propaganda chapter". Not written by Indians, lol.
You are definitely paranoid from India perspective.
Now stop laughing.
If religion has to be a binder of any country, then it indicates that it is intrinsically hollow from the temporal standpoint.
Let me give you an example.
While I am no fanboy of China, yet I will appreciate issues that require appreciation. Religion is an anathema to China and yet there is immense nationalism, more than any other country of the world, in China. Why so? Because they are recognised by the world through their own effort towards progress wherein they have landmarks to show to feel justifiably proud. It maybe noted that China is no longer a pushover, even for the mightiest nation of the world, the US!!
Likewise the US. They are secular. And yet they just cannot be ignored!
The Arabs chug along even though they flaunt their religion on their sleeve. Why so? Because they control Oil = the product that engines industry and wars!!
So, wearing religion on the sleeve is not material. What is material is what you achieve that cannot be ignored by the world!!
To the next point. Indeed there have been religious riots in India. It is a multireligious country and with a secular constitution and with no Laws that puts one religion over the other and where the majority religion is applicable to minorities too! Further the so called minorities in India are not miniscule in percentages as in Bangladesh, where the minorities can be silenced at the village level itself!!
I hope that also clarifies the point you raised that if India is not a Hindu country, where is there riots.
One the issue of drinking urine, it does show you are not only unaware of your religious scriptures, but also unaware of the various recognised medical practices.
Do educate yourself first, before punching thoughts on the computer.
Google and check Uropathy as to what it is and where all it is practised.
And it is not that in India it is universal or sanctified by religion. Ayurveda is not a religious scripture.
In Sanskrit, the word ayurveda consists of the words āyus, meaning "longevity", and veda, meaning "related to knowledge" or "science".
You claim to be a pious Muslim. It is obvious that when you wrote of urine drinking in India you proved that you are not aware of your own scriptures.
Do peruse Sahih Bukhari, Ablutions (Wudu'), Volume 1, Book 4, Number 234.
May I also help you along for a quick
dekko since you obviously are a busy man as it appears that you had no time to read the scriptures. Here, it is from an Islamic site:
Islam Question and Answer - The benefits of drinking camel urine
Hope, I have been of some use to you to update you in the Islamic instructions.
I am not too sure what you meant by ‘
You need to retake a course on India steadies’.
Whatever makes you feel that India is not steady or that I am not steady?
Let me answer some of the points that you have raised in yoour post.
1) You are right about BD being a moderate Muslim country. It should stay that way.
2) Bangladesh's 1st Constitution was made secular. You have to understand which foreign country influenced this newly born and very weak country to incorporate this Clause. Certainly it was not China, Russia or USA. Your then Ambassador to BD may know why and how it happened.
This secularism was not acceptable to the population. It backfired on the face of Sk. Mujib and his mentor across the border. Unpopular Mujib was killed. But, even today many people do not try to really understand why there was such a violent reaction. Population and military establishment both saw him enemy of Islam and BD.
3) In case of BD, it was just opposite. Refer to 3) above.
4) Law enforcers cannot just enter the houses of Hujis and kill all of them. This could have been done during the secular time of Mujib. He formed a Rakkhi Bahini that killed anyone who was perceived as against the ruling party and its secularism.
No wonder, Mujib became so unpopular that very few Bangladeshis uttered at hearing his death, 'inna lillahe wa inna alihe rajeun.'
5) I have read many newspaper articles that want to keep the relationship between BD and Pakistan. They do not want an improved relationship by crying 1971. BD people do not have to hate Pakistan to love India. India must show a positive attitude instead of bullying and imposing an unbearable trade imbalance with BD. 6) People in BD are not paranoid, but they are disturbed by the attitude of India who tries to control Bd affairs through their paid proxies.
7) No, Bangladesh is not a major player in the international politics. But, if you consider our country's total area, you will see we are playing a much robust role in that field. An economically strong BD can certainly play a stronger role in the future.
8) BD people do not pretend to be super rich. This is how Indians project themselves. However, the entire world knows about the reality of the countries that exist in the entire south asia.
I must say, Indians should get rid of their false grandoise as if their life style is at par with the Bombay films.
I daresay Bangladesh was weak when it was formed. That is a figment of imagination if one takes it that they could shrug off the yoke of a well established and military powerful country to which they belonged. Another weak and pitiable thought to forcibly manoeuvre out of a trick knot.
Mujib was not killed because he was secular. He was killed because he attempted to make Bangladesh as an Awami League fiefdom. So, please do not ride the gossamer wings of fantasy. You can befool the babes born well after, but not those who have seen the events unfold.
I have not understood your ‘
3) In case of BD, it was just opposite. Refer to 3) above.. The ‘3’ is not above but in the same line. So what is to be referred?
It is true that law enforcers cannot barge into the house of Hujis. But surely, the law can ensure their arrest in a legal manner.
Bangladesh does not have to hate Pakistan to love India. And if the newspapers want a union with Pakistan and you all feel so, then go ahead? Who can stop you? Just do it. Nike it fast. Why whine and want your cake and eat it too?!
Look India does not require Bangladesh to survive. If you feel that Indian trade and agreements is bullying or whatever, please don’t trade with India and don’t sign agreements. QED!
If Bangladesh is doing well, then good for it. Hurrah is what I say. But what concern it is of India except that it has a viable country as its neighbour and sooner it becomes economically strong, lesser will be the ingress of the illegals? It is a win win for India if Bangladesh becomes economically viable.
I know Bangladesh is not super rich. The world knows it too. As far as India is concerned your claim that India is not way ahead of many, I think you are living in a Fool’s Paradise. Check the world estimates and you will realise where India is and where are the others.
What is the grandiose lifestyle that Mumbai films show? In India, today every household has a Colour TV, cooking gas, some sort of transportation, mobiles, so on and so forth. They all wear natty clothes and have fancy gizmos too. For the fancy clothes, I will confess that the cheap Bangaldeshi clothes sold on the footpath and the cheap Chinese gizmos have indeed played a yeoman’s role!