Hard evidence about Indian police firing at innocents!

[Samudra]

Three new threads in 24 hours. All part of the natural reaction, gentlemen!!!

then the next best thing is to expose the crimes and condemn it

The videos have exposed no crime. And no crime except the blast and the following riot was committed.

These videos have ended up ridiculing other arguments about how the police shot at muslims and tried to kill as many as they can. I can see a lot of Muslims safely walking past a dozen armed police men. I can see a policeman helping an injured Muslim. I can see a lot of Muslims rushed to hospitals in ambulances. I can also see a lot of Muslims getting treated in hospitals in a country where they're allegedly murdered in a blind manner.

The whole thread has backfired. It has ended up vindicating the official story. This pointing fingers business is quite high-schoolish - which is why the other threads have been rightly ignored.

Nevermind that. We can always move on. Can I ask for this thread to be locked, please ? Time to raise the standards and try something more mature.

 

[Awesome]

Congratulations Asim on starting a flame thread. That is exactly how a moderator should act. Now that you have had your fun, would you mind shutting this worthless thread down?

Much regards,
humble contributor,
yours truly,

humble John!

way to go dude!

A flame thread? Dude this has been a hot topic of discussion on the forum for the past week!

This is just what all the media has been saying about India's use of force on innocent people.

 

[TexasJohn]

This is just what all the media has been saying about India's use of force on innocent people.

You tube is now ALL the media? If so, I need to add it to my daily newspaper readings!

What links can you provide from actual newspapers and media? I see Indians putting stuff in You Tube also that is not too flattering to your side. And to what purpose?

What logical conclusion or discussion can you expect out of this?

 

[Awesome]

It's a newsclip... I don't think it's fabricated? Are you now using THAT as a defence?

Somebody took clips from a bollywood movie and put it up as news on youtube? I have my doubts.

What logical conclusion or discussion can you expect out of this?

That the Indian police didn't fire upon rioters...

 

[Awesome]

The videos have exposed no crime. And no crime except the blast and the following riot was committed.

If its no crime to shoot at a person dragging a fallen victim...

 

[TexasJohn]

It's a newsclip... I don't think it's fabricated? Are you now using THAT as a defence?
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Asim, ol buddy,ol pal! I am not defending ANYBODY! But in the Inda/ Pak pi$$ing contest, this is exactly the kind to thing to start a worthless argument. Just like when some Indians put in You Tube a clip of Pakistani Policemen clubbing and teargassing AJK villagers while they were trying to get to relatives on the Indian side after the quake! This was even televised on Indian TV, I believe.

This sort of thing happens on both side of the fence. There are NO clean hands on either side. This won't be the first or last time both sides will abuse their respective Kashmiris!

Speaking to Kashmiris who live here, they feel abused by the Govts. of both India and Pakistan, and would like both Nations to leave them alone.

That is why your clip serves NO worthy purpose, my friend.

 

[BATMAN]

This sort of thing happens on both side of the fence. There are NO clean hands on either side. This won't be the first or last time both sides will abuse their respective Kashmiris!

Difference is what is happening in india is ethnic cleansing. You cannot find compareable examples, remember what happened in recent train fire, Gujrat you can go through the 50 year history of India and you will find injustice on the grounds of reliegon.
If you don't believe visit Hyderabad, Gujrat and interview few your self.

Speaking to Kashmiris who live here, they feel abused by the Govts. of both India and Pakistan, and would like both Nations to leave them alone.

Come to Pakistan and visit the camps of refugees from IOK.
Or go to IOK and see by your self the miserable life of Kashmiris.

That is why your clip serves NO worthy purpose, my friend.

If you meant that it shouldn't have been posted than it is denying Indian Muslims of there very basic right.
Other wise it is big story in international news.

 

[Awesome]

Dude, just because it happens on both sides, it doesn't mean we negate evidence and guilt from THIS incident! Youtube is not at fault, people clubbing and firing at innocents are the ones at fault.

You can either side with the innocents of your country or side with the guilty. Either way you are siding with your country. I don't know what's the problem with anyone posting the truth especially when the Indian side here is predominantly arguing that such incidents didn't take place.

 

[Samudra]

If its no crime to shoot at a person dragging a fallen victim...

It is not. He was rioting. And is helping another man rioting. Both have to be shot.

 

[TexasJohn]

You can either side with the innocents of your country or side with the guilty. Either way you are siding with your country. I don't know what's the problem with anyone posting the truth especially when the Indian side here is predominantly arguing that such incidents didn't take place.

My country sir? My country happens to be the USA! I am sorry if that ticks anyone off.

Both India and Pakistan are guilty of hurting the Kashmiris. I never argued that such incidents didn't take place. They do on both sides

That was my contention about this thread. Tomorrow an Indian will post an anti Pakistani "human rights" video.

Then it will be a mud slinging match - and off we go again!!

And where will we go with that?

With that mentality, SE Asia is doomed to a "cage of their own making".

Do you not see that Asim?

Regards,

John

 

[Awesome]

My country sir? My country happens to be the USA! I am sorry if that ticks anyone off.

Both India and Pakistan are guilty of hurting the Kashmiris. I never argued that such incidents didn't take place. They do on both sides

That was my contention about this thread. Tomorrow an Indian will post an anti Pakistani "human rights" video.

Then it will be a mud slinging match - and off we go again!!

And where will we go with that?

With that mentality, SE Asia is doomed to a "cage of their own making".

Do you not see that Asim?

Regards,

John

I was speaking figuratively about the country.

So according to you when someone argues that the police killed legitimate targets that there was a riot and I have evidence that it killed people who were just helping the fallen victims, I should withhold it because its being not nice.

Dude, this is part of an ongoing discussion. It's not random. People are always encouraged (or more ore less required) to back up their statement with as much evidence possible. Your first argument was that this isn't news link (which btw has also been provided in the original bombing/police firing thread), but it is a newsclip recorded off an indian news channel, hence its not a fake.

I will never tame anyone from being aggressive towards Pakistan. That would defeat the purpose of this forum and the freedoms it grants to its members. Which we already do. Hit the new posts button and you'll see threads alleging Pakistan's support in terrorism. Do we just close those thread because they are not nice? No. But be ready to for counter arguments from Pakistanis. Aggressive, challenging debates are encouraged here. For they make an interesting forum.

What you are NOT allowed to do is insult a member of the forum. Any member. You are not allowed to use racial slurs. You are not allowed to make off topic statements. Discussing countries, current events and politics are all legitimate debating topics.

Let's move on now hall we?

 

[Awesome]

It is not. He was rioting. And is helping another man rioting. Both have to be shot.

How is helping a man riot, when the man has already fallen down? It's a body being dragged for god sakes! They are all running for their lives... And are shot from the back while make their escape.

 

[KashifAsrar]

How is helping a man riot, when the man has already fallen down? It's a body being dragged for god sakes! They are all running for their lives... And are shot from the back while make their escape.

This is very bad! A friend of terrorist is a terrorist, a supporter of a terrorist is a terrorist.
So these people deserve a back-shot!

Sarcasm aside, Asim, this is the common complaint that when police and particularly, PAC (Provincial Armed Constablury), fire they do it on minority community first and the primary purpose is to kill and maim as many as possible. Rarely, if ever, they fire on the OTHER side then it is all in the AIR! There are many cases pending in courts against PAC personnels but nothing concrete has ever happenned and would never happen. All the guilty personnels are roaming freely as ever.
Kashif

 

[con]

This is very bad! A friend of terrorist is a terrorist, a supporter of a terrorist is a terrorist.
So these people deserve a back-shot!

Sarcasm aside, Asim, this is the common complaint that when police and particularly, PAC (Provincial Armed Constablury), fire they do it on minority community first and the primary purpose is to kill and maim as many as possible. Rarely, if ever, they fire on the OTHER side then it is all in the AIR! There are many cases pending in courts against PAC personnels but nothing concrete has ever happenned and would never happen. All the guilty personnels are roaming freely as ever.
Kashif

Really.
Care to tell me when police shot 11 riots protesting in Bengal recently over Nandigram land issue, who were they ? Muslims. Did the police ask their religion before shooting?

Why didn't the paper raise an issue over the religion they belong to? Becoz they happen to be Hindus. Police killing Hindus is not a hot seller and you cannot bring out "conspiracy theories" as they happen to be the majority.

But then it is wrong when the same treatment by the same idiotic police gives to minorities.Amazing

 

[Bull]

This is very bad! A friend of terrorist is a terrorist, a supporter of a terrorist is a terrorist.
So these people deserve a back-shot!

Sarcasm aside, Asim, this is the common complaint that when police and particularly, PAC (Provincial Armed Constablury), fire they do it on minority community first and the primary purpose is to kill and maim as many as possible. Rarely, if ever, they fire on the OTHER side then it is all in the AIR! There are many cases pending in courts against PAC personnels but nothing concrete has ever happenned and would never happen. All the guilty personnels are roaming freely as ever.
Kashif

Lol...thanks for the laugh man.......