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‘Harassment’ on Kabul streets: Hostile environs force Pakistani diplomats to live in Embassy

Norther Alliance is playing a dangerous game in the region.

Sure you can suck up Indian thumbs, but then take your freaking 3-4 million refugees from Pakistan and send them to India so that your great supporter could show your how much she really cares about you.

If you want to allow your land being used as terrorist launchpad for Indians, and at the same time expect from Pakistan that it will not send back your refugees or cut off the life essential food stuff, then you are completely wrong!

Afghans are not doing any favors to themselves. Sure do whatever you want to do with India, just don't let your land being used as a terrorist launch pad for Indian terrorist proxies, thats all Pakistan is asking for.
 
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Afghanistan is in such a state of anarchy because of proxy wars of so many countries that the govt. there has no real administrative control on anything. The govt. ministers and officials themselves are very vulnerable.

Afghanistan just now getting their acts right ! They want to break ties with pakistan and bring down your Taliban proxies
 
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Cut all the support and let those unthankful scums those die from starvation. Not just that kick all afghans out of pakistan.

So you want to look like a real man by spouting disrespect? It takes real courage to find solutions in these difficult times, its the weak that shows disrespect. Grow up!

Afghanistan is in such a state of anarchy because of proxy wars of so many countries that the govt. there has no real administrative control on anything. The govt. ministers and officials themselves are very vulnerable.

It is the responsibility of the Afghan government to provide what ever needed security wise to protect the diplomats of Pakistan and for that matter any country that has political presense in the country. ANSF must provide this iirespective of the political situation.

@waz @Horus : Are you guys the MOD of these forums ? Time to flag some of the cursing over here. / Thank you
 
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Afghans are not refugees at all now. They have married here, have families, businesses. Their kids have studied in Pakistan schools and universities.

Afghans pride themselves on their value of honor. There is a value of gratitude too and that is bigger than value of honor. How much has Pakistan suffered with Afghanistan, is thrown in relief and in abject contrast by such thankless and ungrateful behavior of Afghans.
 
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Norther Alliance is playing a dangerous game in the region.

Sure you can suck up Indian thumbs, but then take your freaking 3-4 million refugees from Pakistan and send them to India so that your great supporter could show your how much she really cares about you.

If you want to allow your land being used as terrorist launchpad for Indians, and at the same time expect from Pakistan that it will not send back your refugees or cut off the life essential food stuff, then you are completely wrong!

Afghans are not doing any favors to themselves. Sure do whatever you want to do with India, just don't let your land being used as a terrorist launch pad for Indian terrorist proxies, thats all Pakistan is asking for.

If you want peace with Afghanistan, stop troubling their people with your Taliban/ISI/other terror proxies. Stop trying to think that Afghanistan is your own backyard or something...stop going by the "strategic depth" theory and stop trying to use Afghanistan as a safe haven for your terror activities in India.

Whenever someone says something about Afghans hating Pakistan so much, all you thick-skulls ever do is to yell "take back the refugess", "we are happy to cut ties", "Pakistan has suffered for Afghanistan". You never stop to think WHY Afghans are hating Pakistan. You always believe in the morbid lies fed to you that RAW/Mossad are brainwashing Afghans against Pak and shit like that.

You have so many Afghans living among you but you fail to understand their mentality - they don't hate anyone without a strong, genuine reason. That reason is mentioned above - the Pakistani establishment is directly or indirectly responsible for most of the shit that's been going on in Afghanistan since last 2 decades or more. THAT is why they hate you...and instead of trying to amend your mistakes you are trying to feed them lies that all this is a conspiracy
by India/Israel/US. Only your people would believe something like that.

It is never too late to do the right thing - Pak can still seek peace with Afghan people if it decides to stop trying to control them. No one has been able to control Afghan's minds, and no one ever will. But unfortunately there seems to be a shortage of rationally-thinking people in Pakistan.

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Another idiocy that is abound is the constant bickering of Pak people that all the Afghan refugees should go to India if they think India is a better friend. You seem to be thinking that the Afghans living in Pak are a parasite or something, but lemme say that it is you who are unable to act like a democratic, free society where people of all religions and cultures can live together (and you even have the same religion).

...and India? You seem to have forgotten that when the Zoroastrian Parsis decided to leave Persia for good, they chose Hindustan as their new home - now we could have treated them in two ways - 1) Like as they were an unwanted child, or a parasite. Which would only lead to massive communal strife, bitter people, and atleast a dozen Zoroastrian terrorist/freedom fighter outfits.

And 2) Treat them like 'permanent guests', welcome their people, religion, culture and mindset which would help them evolve into becoming a good, happy, contributing section of modern day Indian society. Mumbai is the home of so many such Parsis and they are just as much Indian as their next-door Brahmin/Rajput Hindu neighbour.

If it comes to that, I'm pretty sure India would be ready to welcome Afghans if they really want to come and become a part of Indian socio-cultural society. But however our (and their) objective is to ensure that Afghanistan is put on The road to becoming the true land of peaceful Afghans where they can freely be born, live and die in their own sovereign territory without having to bear the burden of fundamentalists, terrorism, regressive ideology, foreign militaries trying to occupy them, etc.

People from countries like Pakistan which are offshoots/breakaway parts of greater civilizations seem to have no idea what it means to be sovereign. You seem to think sovereignty is something related to religion, as religious hatred forms the basic framework of your country.

Based on what my young mind has understood so far...

In simple terms, the armed Mujaheddin element that took root in Afghanistan during the Soviet invasion with the aid of US (and Pakistan) was like a drug that Afghans had to take to deal with the depression of Soviets' expansionist methods.

Now that the USSR and their threat is all dead and gone...Afghanistan has been put on the road to remission/recovery so that it can live it's life peacefully again. However Pakistan is like personification of the addiction/relapse that is how hurting Afghanistan and preventing it's problems from being solved.
 
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If you want peace with Afghanistan, stop troubling their people with your Taliban/ISI/other terror proxies. Stop trying to think that Afghanistan is your own backyard or something...stop going by the "strategic depth" theory and stop trying to use Afghanistan as a safe haven for your terror activities in India.

Whenever someone says something about Afghans hating Pakistan so much, all you thick-skulls ever do is to yell "take back the refugess", "we are happy to cut ties", "Pakistan has suffered for Afghanistan". You never stop to think WHY Afghans are hating Pakistan. You always believe in the morbid lies fed to you that RAW/Mossad are brainwashing Afghans against Pak and shit like that.

You have so many Afghans living among you but you fail to understand their mentality - they don't hate anyone without a strong, genuine reason. That reason is mentioned above - the Pakistani establishment is directly or indirectly responsible for most of the shit that's been going on in Afghanistan since last 2 decades or more. THAT is why they hate you...and instead of trying to amend your mistakes you are trying to feed them lies that all this is a conspiracy
by India/Israel/US. Only your people would believe something like that.

It is never too late to do the right thing - Pak can still seek peace with Afghan people if it decides to stop trying to control them. No one has been able to control Afghan's minds, and no one ever will. But unfortunately there seems to be a shortage of rationally-thinking people in Pakistan.

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Another idiocy that is abound is the constant bickering of Pak people that all the Afghan refugees should go to India if they think India is a better friend. You seem to be thinking that the Afghans living in Pak are a parasite or something, but lemme say that it is you who are unable to act like a democratic, free society where people of all religions and cultures can live together (and you even have the same religion).

...and India? You seem to have forgotten that when the Zoroastrian Parsis decided to leave Persia for good, they chose Hindustan as their new home - now we could have treated them in two ways - 1) Like as they were an unwanted child, or a parasite. Which would only lead to massive communal strife, bitter people, and atleast a dozen Zoroastrian terrorist/freedom fighter outfits.

And 2) Treat them like 'permanent guests', welcome their people, religion, culture and mindset which would help them evolve into becoming a good, happy, contributing section of modern day Indian society. Mumbai is the home of so many such Parsis and they are just as much Indian as their next-door Brahmin/Rajput Hindu neighbour.

If it comes to that, I'm pretty sure India would be ready to welcome Afghans if they really want to come and become a part of Indian socio-cultural society. But however our (and their) objective is to ensure that Afghanistan is put on The road to becoming the true land of peaceful Afghans where they can freely be born, live and die in their own sovereign territory without having to bear the burden of fundamentalists, terrorism, regressive ideology, foreign militaries trying to occupy them, etc.

People from countries like Pakistan which are offshoots/breakaway parts of greater civilizations seem to have no idea what it means to be sovereign. You seem to think sovereignty is something related to religion, as religious hatred forms the basic framework of your country.

Based on what my young mind has understood so far...

In simple terms, the armed Mujaheddin element that took root in Afghanistan during the Soviet invasion with the aid of US (and Pakistan) was like a drug that Afghans had to take to deal with the depression of Soviets' expansionist methods.

Now that the USSR and their threat is all dead and gone...Afghanistan has been put on the road to remission/recovery so that it can live it's life peacefully again. However Pakistan is like personification of the addiction/relapse that is how hurting Afghanistan and preventing it's problems from being solved.

Yada yada yada...

We are asking only two things from India:

1) Stop using Afgan land for your terrorist proxies against Pakistan
2) Take all the Afghan refugees to India to show them how much you really care about them.

Actions mate and not speeches, that is what we want from Indians.
 
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Pakistan need to cut down to few embassy member only
no need any one high level there too risky
 
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Yada yada yada...

We are asking only two things from India:

1) Stop using Afgan land for your terrorist proxies against Pakistan
2) Take all the Afghan refugees to India to show them how much you really care about them.

Actions mate and not speeches, that is what we want from Indians.

See? Already told you all...

Whenever someone says something about Afghans hating Pakistan so much, all you thick-skulls ever do is to yell "take back the refugess", "we are happy to cut ties", "Pakistan has suffered for Afghanistan". You never stop to think WHY Afghans are hating Pakistan. You always believe in the morbid lies fed to you that RAW/Mossad are brainwashing Afghans against Pak and shit like that.

Another idiocy that is abound is the constant bickering of Pak people that all the Afghan refugees should go to India if they think India is a better friend.

You were just here to confirm that whatever I said was correct down to the dot.
 
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Unable to offer protection to diplomats from another nation shows just how hostile, uncontrolled and irresponsible the nation of afghanistan is. The constant hate spewing by their govt and media has created an extremist element amongst the people of Afghanistan. If our diplomats are not feeling safe then its our duty to point this out to Afghanistan in a sterner manner and if it does nothing then we must call them back.

Pathetic to be honest. We have fought wars with India but the diplomats in India and Pakistan have no trouble. Heck the people travelling between the two nations have no trouble. Like I said. Goes to show you the hostility of the nation... Its embarrassing for afghanistan..... Perhaps if they actually focused on reclaiming the eastern side rather than spew hate against Pakistan then we wouldn't see such 10 century hostility.
 
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Pakistan can simply facilitate Afghanistan a quarter of a century of (the good)Taliban rule to avenge this. Afghans should remember this.
 
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Article here, excerpts below:

ISLAMABAD:
All diplomats in Pakistan’s mission in Kabul have abandoned their residences to live in the Embassy compound in the wake of growing incidents of ‘harassment’, The Express Tribune learnt from sources Sunday.


Afghan government officials have assured the Pakistani mission and its staff of security, but they have been advised against venturing out of the compound until they witnessed ‘substantial improvement’ in the security situation. No Afghan official has visited the Embassy to personally reassure the ambassador and other diplomats.

The Afghan media, which routinely use reports from the Pakistani media, is apparently blacking out incidents of harassment of Pakistani diplomats. “The Pakistani diplomats are virtually like hostages as they have not ventured out of the Embassy compound for a week over serious security threats,” another source said.

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Some Pakistani officials believe the Afghan intelligence officials could be behind what they call an ‘organised campaign to harass everyone in Pakistani Embassy’s vehicles on the streets of Kabul.

Pakistan has less than 20 diplomats in Afghanistan while Afghanistan has nearly 55 diplomats in Islamabad and its consulates in Peshawar, Karachi and Quetta.
No, no you see, Pakistan is now running the show in Afghanistan, this news can't be true....

Norther Alliance is playing a dangerous game in the region.

Sure you can suck up Indian thumbs, but then take your freaking 3-4 million refugees from Pakistan and send them to India so that your great supporter could show your how much she really cares about you.

If you want to allow your land being used as terrorist launchpad for Indians, and at the same time expect from Pakistan that it will not send back your refugees or cut off the life essential food stuff, then you are completely wrong!

Afghans are not doing any favors to themselves. Sure do whatever you want to do with India, just don't let your land being used as a terrorist launch pad for Indian terrorist proxies, thats all Pakistan is asking for.
Of course, there it is- India is at fault for everything no matter what. It couldn't possibly be that Pakistan's decades of support for those who have forced Afghanis to live in a continuous state of fear causing resentment from the average Afghan towards Pakistan?
 
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I request my fellow posters not to be disrespectful / abusive towards Afghanis and the refugees which are settled here.Yes we have many problems because of some of them but we should not be rude to all of them. We should follow the Islamic principles and treat them nicely. What some posters are expressing are not what our Prophet (SAW) Taught. Yes we should and will send them back as soon as we can find the appropriate and correct way but being foul and disrespectful towards them will do us nothing good. Let the officials find the solution and do their work.

I repeat: Being disrespectful and aggressive towards the Afghan refugees does us no good...
 
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It is not a question of adequate security. You cannot secure a bunch of people for too long outside in the street if the population hates them.

Pakistan has severely rebuffed Ghani's advances of friendship by not controlling the taleban. Pakistani elites feel it is not because Pakistan doesn't want to but that they have lost control of the taleban. That is of little solace to the Afghans when they experience two bombings weekly emanating form this Pakistani creation. Ofcourse people are unhappy.
 
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@Horus why he is allowed to post such anti Pakistani Propaganda ?
 
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