Happy Birthday your majesty Queen Elizabeth the second.

[Bilad al-Haramayn]

Right. Do we take it that your a scion of the House of Saud? If so when next time in UK do let me know. I will be more than happy to guide you around. Please make sure you bring your American Express Premier Gold Card.

Yes but that is consistant with their societies, They are in sync with their cultures.


That is plus point. I would rather have policy decided by people's representatives who we can vote out. The Royals are there to reperesent the state and bring consistency to the system. As far as I am concerned it works fine in UK. So why fix something that ain't broke?

I am a Hashemite. I have close relatives living in London so I am familiar with the UK. Thanks for the offer though.

It seems that you missed all of my points. Try to reread my initial post and ponder upon the points that I mentioned. I never voiced any criticism of constitutional monarchism so I don't understand your post.

 

[Baybars Han]

Monarchs times are over! Finished!

 

[untitled]

We got liberated from british monarchy back in 1947 but it seems some minds still can't get rid of Ghulami still believes generations after generations British subjects.

She was also the Queen of Pakistan till 1956.

 

[Freyja]

However the "problem" with most if not all European monarchies is that their traditions have mostly died out. To begin with they have no political power excluding tiny princely states such as Monaco and Liechtenstein. Thus they have lost a lot of their historical legitimacy.

Right. The "problem".

They lost their political power and their historical legitimacy the moment European nations like France decided they'd had enough of Monarchies and lynched the aristocrats.

In nations that didn't butcher their kings and queens, we just decided not to bother ourselves with the thoughts of a single blowhard anymore. Now we only bother with the thoughts of a group of blowhards we call Parliament.

 

[untitled]

Monarchs times are over! Finished!

They can always make a comeback

 

[Bilad al-Haramayn]

Right. The "problem".

They lost their political power and their historical legitimacy the moment European nations like France decided they'd had enough of Monarchies and lynched the aristocrats.

In nations that didn't butcher their kings and queens, we just decided not to bother ourselves with the thoughts of a single blowhard anymore. Now we only bother with the thoughts of a group of blowhards we call Parliament.

A very poor of attempt of trolling. I love how you handpicked a small sentence (out of context moreover) in a long post that touched upon that issue and elaborated on it alongside other related points.

Thanks for "educating" me about the French Revolution and the parliamentary system. I was completely unaware of this as my posts in this thread CLEARLY confirm. Irony might have been used here. The problem with my post is that I went into details, details that the common person has no clue about hence all my points were unchallenged or plainly ignored. Not my problem though.

 

[Spectre]

Right. The "problem".

They lost their political power and their historical legitimacy the moment European nations like France decided they'd had enough of Monarchies and lynched the aristocrats.

In nations that didn't butcher their kings and queens, we just decided not to bother ourselves with the thoughts of a single blowhard anymore. Now we only bother with the thoughts of a group of blowhards we call Parliament.

 

[Freyja]

A very poor of attempt of trolling. I love how you handpicked a small sentence (out of context moreover) in a long post that touched upon that issue and elaborated on it alongside other related points.

Why answer there rest? There's nothing there worth talking about.

Or didn't you wonder why no one here bother too? Could it be that Europe doesn't give a toss about monarchs anymore?

The problem with my post is that I went into details, details that the common person has no clue about hence all my points were unchallenged or plainly ignored. Not my problem though.

Oh, and a superiority complex. I'll reiterate; no one challenged you because no one cares.

It's those tights actually. And the perm... and shoes... and dress... and, well there's a lot to dislike about that man.

I accept the providence of a single king and only the one.

 

[Spectre]

Why answer there rest? There's nothing there worth talking about.

Or didn't you wonder why no one here bother too? Could it be that Europe doesn't give a toss about monarchs anymore?



Oh, and a superiority complex. I'll reiterate; no one challenged you because no one cares.



It's those tights actually. And the perm... and shoes... and dress... and, well there's a lot to dislike about that man.

I accept the providence of a single king and only the one.

God Save the King!

 

[untitled]

God Save the King!

Before he gets consumed by his Majesty's deliciousness

 

[Bilad al-Haramayn]

Why answer there rest? There's nothing there worth talking about.

Or didn't you wonder why no one here bother too? Could it be that Europe doesn't give a toss about monarchs anymore?



Oh, and a superiority complex. I'll reiterate; no one challenged you because no one cares.



It's those tights actually. And the perm... and shoes... and dress... and, well there's a lot to dislike about that man.

I accept the providence of a single king and only the one.

Your claim of Europe not "giving a toss" about monarchies does not correspondent to the realities on the ground or even this very thread. You already confirmed once, judging from your initial reply, that you did not bother to read my entire post so there is not really a need for you to do that again.

Apparently 2 users, including yourself, did since you quoted my initial post. Another contradiction. You either did not read the entire post or you simply did not understand the content. Maybe due to the detailed nature of the post or because you cannot counter the factual points that I and others have raised elsewhere. I do not know. Nothing to do with a "superiority complex". In fact your initial post was a good example of that exact behavior.
Anyway I have clearly wasted enough of my time on you so save yourself from replying and me from the gifs and emotions that will probably follow. You are not interacting with a nobody here.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Yeh. She was the Queen of Pakistan once. Here with President Ayub Khan of Pakistan in 1953.

And Pakistan soldiers from Frontier Regiment standing guard duty outside Buckngham Palace with British Grenadier.

 

[Steve781]

Yeh. She was the Queen of Pakistan once. Here with President Ayub Khan of Pakistan in 1953.

And Pakistan soldiers from Frontier Regiment standing guard duty outside Buckngham Palace with British Grenadier.

Funnily enough, during the 1947-8 war between India and Pakistan her father was technically at war with himself.

 

[waz]

This is an incorrect argument put forward by Royalists.

Tourists do not come to capture a glimpse of the Royals but more the landmarks like the Palaces. Compare with
France where Tourists flock to the former Royal Palaces but there is no Royals left alive to see.

The most powerful countries in the world like US and China make do without a Royal family. The idea of someone being born of some special blood is anyhow against the principle of equality, and the sooner this outdated institution is abolished in the UK the better.

It's not incorrect, it's factual and the figures I put up speak for themselves. Being a Londoner and meeting tourists practically everyday, many come to see the Queen.
As for other countries doing without a royal family, yes they do, however the countries with royal families dominate the top ten in terms of human development and "best" countries to live in e.g. The Netherlands, Norway, Sweden, Canada, Australia etc.
As for the special blood argument, the Queen and family at large have bonded well with the public and commentators see them at ease with the modern world. They don't feel superior to anyone.
You might want to speak about abolishing the monarchy, that's your opinion, but it is massively out of touch with the British people.

By the way were you born in the UK, or are you a naturalised citizen?

 

[UKBengali]

@waz: I am naturalised UK citizen.

You are aware that the Queen is above the law and technically cannot even be prosecuted for murder?