Happy Birthday, Quaid-E-Azam - Father Of Pakistan (2019)

[StormBreaker]

Our loyal would have been no better than Spain's Muslims,

Could you expand on this, i feel interested

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Could you expand on this, i feel interested

Typo brother. I get reminded of Allama Iqbal's trip to Spain and his pain at being the first Muslim after many hundreds of years to pray there in Cordoba.

Then I remember that RSS founders went to Spain to study how they got rid of Muslims. It all makes sense.

Quaid e Azam was a savior for not only Pakistan, but the whole Islamic world and his ideology will be understood and implemented better by those who come after us.

He will be proven more correct as time moves on, we are only seeing the beginning of the end for India now.

 

[Mugen]

Happy Birthday!

He gave us something nice, and we turned it in to garbage. What was the point of independence if we are to live like we do?

 

[StormBreaker]

Happy Birthday!

He gave us something nice, and we turned it in to garbage. What was the point of independence if we are to live like we do?

Not many among here will be happy hearing this but a reality !!!

Our people have swines amongst them and in masses !!!

 

[waz]

Thank you father, without you we would not have anything, because of you we have everything, our freedom.

 

[Rasengan]

One of the best quotes. There is so much wisdom behind these words which had a direct impact on me when I was going up. Thank you, Allah, for sending us a leader like Quaid e Azam and saving us from oppression.

“Think 100 times before you take a decision, But once that decision is taken, stand by it as one man.”

 

[StormBreaker]

Okay guys, all of you have expressed your wishes.

Now, let’s come to a deep convo in which we include our Dearest Father of Nation’s quote :

“There are 2 powers on earth : One is Sword and the Other is Pen, There is a great competition and rivalry between the two”

So lets Put Pakistan situation into this.

Issues :

Pakistan, has very less literacy rate and what’s more surprising or i would say “saddening” is that those literate and residing in the country are still quite under-potential and don’t display their education Generally in REAL WORLD.

Come to Important positions or seats which hold significance or power.

We see incompetent, less educated bureaucrats, Employees such as Managers, CEOs, MDs and Directors. Come to Military, incompetency is not unusual here as well like i saw the convo among @Thorough Pro @TheDarkKnight @Alpha BeeTee @Oscar @PakFactor @Bilal Khan (Quwa) @Bilal. And @Avicenna

They all highlighted one thing in short and that is “Lack of Basic Knowledge and Background Of their respective Fields where they are supposed to be gurus to have better thinking and decision making skills at critical times”.

This core Issue, is surrounding the Civil forces and their top to bottom officers, all mostly having desire of just money while this respected job is not about Just money But also a Respected Civil Duty.

Same goes to the political offices. Chiefs of All departments, take Wazir-e-Railway or any Wazir for example, Who are they all ? Mostly some metric pass or fake degree holders who just need some ugly money instead of taking the opportunity to earn money AND RESPECT BY FAITHFULLY SERVING THEIR POSITIONS.

But, how can one serve as a so & so Minister when he has a background of being just a common metric/inter pass and have 0 know-how of “How to handle and well manage my duties and positions ?”

As a minister/Officer/Bureaucrat/PM, you MUST have appropriate knowledge of the field you are in, What it requires from you, How worthy and competent you are to fulfill your job.

There is a Reason Quaid’s statement seems very much connected to this scenario as We most of the JJ’s (Jahil Jackasses) sitting on top. They also have power and know very well to display it on roads with 2-10 hiluxes here and there, playing VIP while serving least to none in their respective roles, banking in cash be it a judge, bureaucrat, even many officers and Private firms top brass.

SOLUTION

There are 2 solutions i can only think of.

Peace with the existing lot
OR
Kick them off

Peace with the existing is the best option i.e if it works. Educate the current people in power, give them thoughtfulness on “How being faithful to the role and country open doors for something far better than money which is RESPECT FROM MASSES” ,
I am sure, every person, good or bad in the world has 2 sides to his character, Good and Bad, it’s just the proportion of both of them which are unbalanced. Give them courage to open up publicly by lowering the extent of punishment to their crimes as per law (which itself is flawed).

We currently and in the past were in masses illiterate, suffered worst times, lost much in those times such as loved ones, businesses, money and residences. It is quite natural but in the end, unethical to run blindly after CASH. We want our living standards to improve but we are not sure of “What those standards really are ?” , we want shortcuts, Do bad, Bribes, Make the law spineless, we have a tendency to prostrate those with heavy pockets even if they are WRONG in hope of getting a penny that falls from his pocket . The people we call corrupt are pure examples of “MONEY-THIRST”. They have poor backgrounds, they like most wanted money and in doing so, lost their SELF-CONSCIOUS. This situation demands their extensive care in rehabilitation centers, getting them treated with psychologists.

The other solution is violent which involves removing Them from their seats. Giving chance to those who study, in hope for a better future but roam around, lost, or in best cases, migrate elsewhere for a living because their own motherland is dwelling with RIGHT-TAKERS thanks to NEPOTISM.

Those good, who join institutions, are also eventually forced to become BAD or just resign, former being the most probable.

A leader like Quaid-e-Azam was the purest example of how “Sword” (public protests and fights) and “PEN” (Quaid-E-Azam’s extensive knowledge in the field and his circles) can MUTUALLY BE A DESTRUCTIVE FORCE.

Pakistan is in dire need of a Statesman that has command on BOTH PEN AND POWER.

GIVE IT A THOUGHT, The best reference Examples are none other than CHINA AND UAE. Look where they are today in 3-4 decades.

@Mangus Ortus Novem @Verve @messiach @aliyusuf @Signalian @Zarvan @Hodor @seven0seven @pakpride00090 @Starlord @Pakhtoon yum @waz @Dubious @The Eagle @Horus @ghazi52 @Pan-Islamic-Pakistan @Syed Hammad Ahmed @Trailer23 @Falcon26 @kursed @Pakistan Space Agency @Saifullah @MastanKhan @Musafir117 @Windjammer @Jaanbaz @PakSword @masterchief_mirza

 

[aliyusuf]

Am i missing something or y’all forgot this occasion ?

No chance of that, my friend. Enjoying the holiday because of this occasion.

May Allah Grant him Jannah.

 

[PakSword]

Okay guys, all of you have expressed your wishes.

Now, let’s come to a deep convo in which we include our Dearest Father of Nation’s quote :

“There are 2 powers on earth : One is Sword and the Other is Pen, There is a great competition and rivalry between the two”

So lets Put Pakistan situation into this.

Issues :

Pakistan, has very less literacy rate and what’s more surprising or i would say “saddening” is that those literate and residing in the country are still quite under-potential and don’t display their education Generally in REAL WORLD.

Come to Important positions or seats which hold significance or power.

We see incompetent, less educated bureaucrats, Employees such as Managers, CEOs, MDs and Directors. Come to Military, incompetency is not unusual here as well like i saw the convo among @Thorough Pro @TheDarkKnight @Alpha BeeTee @Oscar @PakFactor @Bilal Khan (Quwa) @Bilal. And @Avicenna

They all highlighted one thing in short and that is “Lack of Basic Knowledge and Background Of their respective Fields where they are supposed to be gurus to have better thinking and decision making skills at critical times”.

This core Issue, is surrounding the Civil forces and their top to bottom officers, all mostly having desire of just money while this respected job is not about Just money But also a Respected Civil Duty.

Same goes to the political offices. Chiefs of All departments, take Wazir-e-Railway or any Wazir for example, Who are they all ? Mostly some metric pass or fake degree holders who just need some ugly money instead of taking the opportunity to earn money AND RESPECT BY FAITHFULLY SERVING THEIR POSITIONS.

But, how can one serve as a so & so Minister when he has a background of being just a common metric/inter pass and have 0 know-how of “How to handle and well manage my duties and positions ?”

As a minister/Officer/Bureaucrat/PM, you MUST have appropriate knowledge of the field you are in, What it requires from you, How worthy and competent you are to fulfill your job.

There is a Reason Quaid’s statement seems very much connected to this scenario as We most of the JJ’s (Jahil Jackasses) sitting on top. They also have power and know very well to display it on roads with 2-10 hiluxes here and there, playing VIP while serving least to none in their respective roles, banking in cash be it a judge, bureaucrat, even many officers and Private firms top brass.

SOLUTION

There are 2 solutions i can only think of.

Peace with the existing lot
OR
Kick them off

Peace with the existing is the best option i.e if it works. Educate the current people in power, give them thoughtfulness on “How being faithful to the role and country open doors for something far better than money which is RESPECT FROM MASSES” ,
I am sure, every person, good or bad in the world has 2 sides to his character, Good and Bad, it’s just the proportion of both of them which are unbalanced. Give them courage to open up publicly by lowering the extent of punishment to their crimes as per law (which itself is flawed).

We currently and in the past were in masses illiterate, suffered worst times, lost much in those times such as loved ones, businesses, money and residences. It is quite natural but in the end, unethical to run blindly after CASH. We want our living standards to improve but we are not sure of “What those standards really are ?” , we want shortcuts, Do bad, Bribes, Make the law spineless, we have a tendency to prostrate those with heavy pockets even if they are WRONG in hope of getting a penny that falls from his pocket . The people we call corrupt are pure examples of “MONEY-THIRST”. They have poor backgrounds, they like most wanted money and in doing so, lost their SELF-CONSCIOUS. This situation demands their extensive care in rehabilitation centers, getting them treated with psychologists.

The other solution is violent which involves removing Them from their seats. Giving chance to those who study, in hope for a better future but roam around, lost, or in best cases, migrate elsewhere for a living because their own motherland is dwelling with RIGHT-TAKERS thanks to NEPOTISM.

Those good, who join institutions, are also eventually forced to become BAD or just resign, former being the most probable.

A leader like Quaid-e-Azam was the purest example of how “Sword” (public protests and fights) and “PEN” (Quaid-E-Azam’s extensive knowledge in the field and his circles) can MUTUALLY BE A DESTRUCTIVE FORCE.

Pakistan is in dire need of a Statesman that has command on BOTH PEN AND POWER.

GIVE IT A THOUGHT, The best reference Examples are none other than CHINA AND UAE. Look where they are today in 3-4 decades.

@Mangus Ortus Novem @Verve @messiach @aliyusuf @Signalian @Zarvan @Hodor @seven0seven @pakpride00090 @Starlord @Pakhtoon yum @waz @Dubious @The Eagle @Horus @ghazi52 @Pan-Islamic-Pakistan @Syed Hammad Ahmed @Trailer23 @Falcon26 @kursed @Pakistan Space Agency @Saifullah @MastanKhan @Musafir117 @Windjammer @Jaanbaz @PakSword @masterchief_mirza

The first thing our state requires is land reforms.. and then education. it will take a couple of generations to bring the population at a respectable level. But the education also needs reforms.. the entire syllabus is outdated from Primary to High School. This syllabus is preparing garbage for research universities and naturally their output will be garbage too.

 

[masterchief_mirza]

, we want shortcuts, Do bad, Bribes, Make the law spineless, we have a tendency to prostrate those with heavy pockets even if they are WRONG in hope of getting a penny that falls from his pocket . The people we call corrupt are pure examples of “MONEY-THIRST”. They have poor backgrounds, they like most wanted money and in doing so, lost their SELF-CONSCIOUS.

Some critically important points made in this excellent post.

Lots of little changes on an individual level within our society are needed to eventually coalesce into a great paradigm shift in terms of our overall direction.

We need to give a damn about the potential victims and the opportunity costs of our micro-manipulations, instead of thinking of how to personally benefit from the same micro-manipulations.

PMLN and PPP have dominated our political scene for decades, yet they are the main proponents of the micro-manipulation philosophy. Kickbacks and corruption, hardly noticeable, but of benefit to those few key handlers, enablers and businessmen who allow the strategy to become self-sustaining. As long as the right media, judges, political and military top brass are controlled within the network, the system continues unabated.

It can only be stopped when such a culture is rendered unacceptable to us all.

We are close, maybe closer than we have ever been, but the objective of declaring corruption permanently as something wholly nefarious and criminal seems to remain elusive for now. It still has an element of in-built attractiveness that tempts many otherwise loyal and decent citizens.

 

[Pakhtoon yum]

Okay guys, all of you have expressed your wishes.

Now, let’s come to a deep convo in which we include our Dearest Father of Nation’s quote :

“There are 2 powers on earth : One is Sword and the Other is Pen, There is a great competition and rivalry between the two”

So lets Put Pakistan situation into this.

Issues :

Pakistan, has very less literacy rate and what’s more surprising or i would say “saddening” is that those literate and residing in the country are still quite under-potential and don’t display their education Generally in REAL WORLD.

Come to Important positions or seats which hold significance or power.

We see incompetent, less educated bureaucrats, Employees such as Managers, CEOs, MDs and Directors. Come to Military, incompetency is not unusual here as well like i saw the convo among @Thorough Pro @TheDarkKnight @Alpha BeeTee @Oscar @PakFactor @Bilal Khan (Quwa) @Bilal. And @Avicenna

They all highlighted one thing in short and that is “Lack of Basic Knowledge and Background Of their respective Fields where they are supposed to be gurus to have better thinking and decision making skills at critical times”.

This core Issue, is surrounding the Civil forces and their top to bottom officers, all mostly having desire of just money while this respected job is not about Just money But also a Respected Civil Duty.

Same goes to the political offices. Chiefs of All departments, take Wazir-e-Railway or any Wazir for example, Who are they all ? Mostly some metric pass or fake degree holders who just need some ugly money instead of taking the opportunity to earn money AND RESPECT BY FAITHFULLY SERVING THEIR POSITIONS.

But, how can one serve as a so & so Minister when he has a background of being just a common metric/inter pass and have 0 know-how of “How to handle and well manage my duties and positions ?”

As a minister/Officer/Bureaucrat/PM, you MUST have appropriate knowledge of the field you are in, What it requires from you, How worthy and competent you are to fulfill your job.

There is a Reason Quaid’s statement seems very much connected to this scenario as We most of the JJ’s (Jahil Jackasses) sitting on top. They also have power and know very well to display it on roads with 2-10 hiluxes here and there, playing VIP while serving least to none in their respective roles, banking in cash be it a judge, bureaucrat, even many officers and Private firms top brass.

SOLUTION

There are 2 solutions i can only think of.

Peace with the existing lot
OR
Kick them off

Peace with the existing is the best option i.e if it works. Educate the current people in power, give them thoughtfulness on “How being faithful to the role and country open doors for something far better than money which is RESPECT FROM MASSES” ,
I am sure, every person, good or bad in the world has 2 sides to his character, Good and Bad, it’s just the proportion of both of them which are unbalanced. Give them courage to open up publicly by lowering the extent of punishment to their crimes as per law (which itself is flawed).

We currently and in the past were in masses illiterate, suffered worst times, lost much in those times such as loved ones, businesses, money and residences. It is quite natural but in the end, unethical to run blindly after CASH. We want our living standards to improve but we are not sure of “What those standards really are ?” , we want shortcuts, Do bad, Bribes, Make the law spineless, we have a tendency to prostrate those with heavy pockets even if they are WRONG in hope of getting a penny that falls from his pocket . The people we call corrupt are pure examples of “MONEY-THIRST”. They have poor backgrounds, they like most wanted money and in doing so, lost their SELF-CONSCIOUS. This situation demands their extensive care in rehabilitation centers, getting them treated with psychologists.

The other solution is violent which involves removing Them from their seats. Giving chance to those who study, in hope for a better future but roam around, lost, or in best cases, migrate elsewhere for a living because their own motherland is dwelling with RIGHT-TAKERS thanks to NEPOTISM.

Those good, who join institutions, are also eventually forced to become BAD or just resign, former being the most probable.

A leader like Quaid-e-Azam was the purest example of how “Sword” (public protests and fights) and “PEN” (Quaid-E-Azam’s extensive knowledge in the field and his circles) can MUTUALLY BE A DESTRUCTIVE FORCE.

Pakistan is in dire need of a Statesman that has command on BOTH PEN AND POWER.

GIVE IT A THOUGHT, The best reference Examples are none other than CHINA AND UAE. Look where they are today in 3-4 decades.

@Mangus Ortus Novem @Verve @messiach @aliyusuf @Signalian @Zarvan @Hodor @seven0seven @pakpride00090 @Starlord @Pakhtoon yum @waz @Dubious @The Eagle @Horus @ghazi52 @Pan-Islamic-Pakistan @Syed Hammad Ahmed @Trailer23 @Falcon26 @kursed @Pakistan Space Agency @Saifullah @MastanKhan @Musafir117 @Windjammer @Jaanbaz @PakSword @masterchief_mirza

That's all correct but the examples you've given are incorrect. For us to follow their model then we need millions of slaves to start laying down the foundations for infrastructure. Then go up the ladder from there, like china.


Then there is also what you hinted at. Education and education that encouragee thinking out of the box.

 

[Imad.Khan]

Am i missing something or y’all forgot

Didn't forget just my head is down in shame for what we have done with the country that he worked so hard to free.

 

[StormBreaker]

Didn't forget just my head is down in shame for what we have done with the country that he worked so hard to free.

Down nai paani mein doob marna chahiye