Happy Birthday! Confucius. The Father of All East Asian Cultures

[Pakhtoon yum]

Whatever you say, but we Chinese know us better than you do, if I claim I know Pakistan better than Pakistanis, I doubt anyone would believe me, same logic goes to your claim of our culture and clothing.

No but you see the majority of Pakistan westing their traditional clothing and following their traditions/cultures

 

[beijingwalker]

No but you see the majority of Pakistan westing their traditional clothing and following their traditions/cultures

Good for Pakistan, but it's also ok if most of the world doesn't follow. No culture is a role model for others.

 

[Pakhtoon yum]

Good for Pakistan, but it's also ok if most of the world doesn't follow. No culture is a role model for others.

What?
Listen since you dont like me and I clearly can't stand the bs that comes out of your mouth, then just ignore me. Would you be able to do that without responding with a propaganda message?

 

[beijingwalker]

What?
Listen since you dont like me and I clearly can't stand the bs that comes out of your mouth, then just ignore me. Would you be able to do that without responding with a propaganda message?

This is my thread, you don't have to stand me if you stop following me around in multiple of my threads.

 

[Pakhtoon yum]

This is my thread, you don't have to stand me if you stop following me around in multiple of my threads.

Bud this is a free public forum I can go anywhere on here. Get that communist attitude out of here.

 

[beijingwalker]

Bud this is a free public forum I can go anywhere on here. Get that communist attitude out of here.

So, don't complain you can't stand me.

 

[Pakhtoon yum]

So, don't complain you can't stand me.

Didnt say I didnt stand you, now did i? I find you amusing, at most

 

[beijingwalker]

Didnt say I didnt stand you, now did i? I find you amusing, at most

Good, if you can't stand my threads or posts, don't have to follow them around, no one asked you to stand them.

 

[Goku]

I feel the east Asians have preserved their culture very well especially Japanese and Chinese , no immigration bullshit like Europeans which dont assimilate with local culture
Look at Kyoto Japan and Forbidden city Beijing , Amazing

 

[Rasengan]

Well that's their decision the Turks did the same in 1920s and 30s their country their rules



You don't have to remind me that again it was meerly in response to Mao"s failed economic policies in late 1950s in fact the whole anarchy bought him back in power during the 1960s

The problem with Chairman Mao was his belief of following the Stalin economic model of collectivization. When the CPC first came to power they did land reform which benefited the masses. This policy was excellent, as for the first time in Chinese history the poor were allowed to grow there own food with a small plot of land that was distributed equally. But China needed the money and a blueprint to industrialize its economy. This was provided by the Soviets in 1953 called the First Five Year Plan. History has shown what a disastrous policy it was.

Then in 1956 when Khrushchev denounced Stalin and stopped collectivization Chairman Mao didn't follow his counterpart. Mao didn't believe in the accusations put forward by Khrushchev and thought the revolution was being hijacked. A stupid mistake which cost the lives of millions of people.

But no one can't deny he wasn't a shrewd politician. Mao was a great reader of Chinese history and philosophy. It's funny how the population was told to burn the books while his own personal library was huge. His shrewdness is emphasized in the Lushan conference in 1959. He essentially told his friends to criticize him. Obviously, when given the chance they did the decent thing of telling him the truth. People like Peng Duhai were traveling up and down the country. They weren't stuck in Beijing where everything seemed okay. But this was his mistake along with a bunch of other people. This conference gave Mao the insight of knowing who would question his rule and policies. Where did he get such an idea? Well, in Chinese history there was an Emperor (I forgot the name) who did the exact same thing. He told his subjects to criticize him, those who did were killed and the others were left untouched. It was a clear warning sign of don't question my authority.

Obviously, he couldn't attack his rivals directly. This is where the destruction of the "Four Old Things" came to play. Its real purpose was to galvanize the Red Guards under his control to kill off his opponents. Confucious philosophy couldn't be destroyed since it was ingrained into Chinese society. I know people whose family hid there family ancestry, heirlooms and books from the Red Guard. Ultimately, Mao's arrogance led to the death of millions of people.

 

[beijingwalker]

The problem with Chairman Mao was his belief of following the Stalin economic model of collectivization. When the CPC first came to power they did land reform which benefited the masses. This policy was excellent, as for the first time in Chinese history the poor were allowed to grow there own food with a small plot of land that was distributed equally. But China needed the money and a blueprint to industrialize its economy. This was provided by the Soviets in 1953 called the First Five Year Plan. History has shown what a disastrous policy it was.

Then in 1956 when Khrushchev denounced Stalin and stopped collectivization Chairman Mao didn't follow his counterpart. Mao didn't believe in the accusations put forward by Khrushchev and thought the revolution was being hijacked. A stupid mistake which cost the lives of millions of people.

But no one can't deny he wasn't a shrewd politician. Mao was a great reader of Chinese history and philosophy. It's funny how the population was told to burn the books while his own personal library was huge. His shrewdness is emphasized in the Lushan conference in 1959. He essentially told his friends to criticize him. Obviously, when given the chance they did the decent thing of telling him the truth. People like Peng Duhai were traveling up and down the country. They weren't stuck in Beijing where everything seemed okay. But this was his mistake along with a bunch of other people. This conference gave Mao the insight of knowing who would question his rule and policies. Where did he get such an idea? Well, in Chinese history there was an Emperor (I forgot the name) who did the exact same thing. He told his subjects to criticize him, those who did were killed and the others were left untouched. It was a clear warning sign of don't question my authority.

Obviously, he couldn't attack his rivals directly. This is where the destruction of the "Four Old Things" came to play. Its real purpose was to galvanize the Red Guards under his control to kill off his opponents. Confucious philosophy couldn't be destroyed since it was ingrained into Chinese society. I know people whose family hid there family ancestry, heirlooms and books from the Red Guard. Ultimately, Mao's arrogance led to the death of millions of people.

Mao was a very controversial figure even in China,maybe a hundred years from now our future generation can have a more objective view of him through the lense of history.

 

[Rasengan]

Mao was a very controversial figure even in China,maybe a hundred years from now our future generation can have a more objective view of him through the lense of history.

I agree brother. Mao was a very controversial figure and even in China people do criticize some of his actions but they don't tend to broadcast it. But like with all historical people of power there were good and bad elements to there rule. Mao as a revolutionary fighter was inspirational, but he was a terrible administrator. This could have been due to his old age or being manipulated by the gang of four.

 

[beijingwalker]

This could have been due to his old age or being manipulated by the gang of four.

Gang of four were the creation of Mao to consoliate his power, he was paranoiac about power and control, China could've been much better off if he'd died earlier. I don't hide my dislike towards him but I also admit his great contribution to the Chinese nation and history, Chinese people tend to trust their parents and grandparents stories than government propaganda, all older generation family members told us that he was still better than the leaders before him, PRC is still better than ROC.

 

[Rasengan]

Gang of four were the creation of Mao to consoliate his power, he was paranoiac about power and control, China could've been much better off if he'd died earlier. I don't hide my dislike towards him but I also admit his great contribution to the Chinese nation and history, Chinese people tend to trust their parents and grandparents stories than government propaganda, all older generation family members told us that he was still better than the leaders before him, PRC is still better than ROC.

Your assessment is fair.