Hanoi wants to become the second Singapore

[Abacin]

Hanoi has no chance to become Singapore because Singapore is the economical capital of ASEAN Chinese. They park their money in Singapore. That's one important reason China-Singapore relation is not so good. Singapore is very scared if those Chinese park their their money in China. That's why it started to call "Pivot to Asia" to give those Chinese the impression Singapore is the only place safe to Both China and USA while China is not.

 

[Viet]

Hanoi has no chance to become Singapore because Singapore is the economical capital of ASEAN Chinese. They park their money in Singapore. That's one important reason China-Singapore relation is not so good. Singapore is very scared if those Chinese park their their money in China. That's why it started to call "Pivot to Asia" to give those Chinese the impression Singapore is the only place safe to Both China and USA while China is not.

do you have any figure how much money of chinese are parked there?
reducing singapore success model to "it is all about money" is a bit widely stretched.

 

[Abacin]

do you have any figure how much money of chinese are parked there?
reducing singapore success model to "it is all about money" is a bit widely stretched.

There are nearly 25 million Chinese in ASEAN with a wealth of more than $300 billion and much larger economic control . Chinese are always more successful than locals because of support from China such as more trade connections. So for last several centuries Western colonizers always suppressed Chinese politically to balance for their ruling. Therefore ASEAN chinese control significant wealth without political protection. This creates a great opportunity for Singapore as the only Chinese political entity in ASEAN and allows it to become the de-facto economical capital of ASEAN Chinese.

Singapore is ranked as 4th financial center worldwide, next to London, New York, and Hong Kong. Singapore model is unique and cannot be copied by any country. For Vietnam, Industrialization is the only way, not the financial way by Singapore.

 

[Indos]

It is the place to hinder tax.

But now we know who parks their money in a save heaven countries, including in Singapore.

There are new rule that force them to open their bank secrecy.

There are two options to take the money back, by acting nice or force, depending on the ruler.

Vietnamese want to be Singapore as well...? The place to hinder tax.

 

[Viet]

There are nearly 25 million Chinese in ASEAN with a wealth of more than $300 billion and much larger economic control . Chinese are always more successful than locals because of support from China such as more trade connections. So for last several centuries Western colonizers always suppressed Chinese politically to balance for their ruling. Therefore ASEAN chinese control significant wealth without political protection. This creates a great opportunity for Singapore as the only Chinese political entity in ASEAN and allows it to become the de-facto economical capital of ASEAN Chinese.

Singapore is ranked as 4th financial center worldwide, next to London, New York, and Hong Kong. Singapore model is unique and cannot be copied by any country. For Vietnam, Industrialization is the only way, not the financial way by Singapore.

Chinese ethnics in ASEAN have no interest in politics, only in making money. claiming the colonial western powers suppressed them in politics is wrong. moreover exile Chinese cooperated with all colonial powers, even with the Japanese army during the occupation of Singapore to make money.

when Chinese are in the minority, they simply cooperate or bribe the local governments or officials.

No, mainland China played nearly no role in accumulation of wealth until recently because China was poor. ethnics Chinese make money with the locals of the host countries, controlling trades, export/import, banks, retails. the locals aren´t smart. to say bluntly.

true, copying Singapore is impossible. what possible is copying a part of it. such as how to make the country corruption free.

 

[AndrewJin]

There are nearly 25 million Chinese in ASEAN with a wealth of more than $300 billion and much larger economic control . Chinese are always more successful than locals because of support from China such as more trade connections. So for last several centuries Western colonizers always suppressed Chinese politically to balance for their ruling. Therefore ASEAN chinese control significant wealth without political protection. This creates a great opportunity for Singapore as the only Chinese political entity in ASEAN and allows it to become the de-facto economical capital of ASEAN Chinese.

Singapore is ranked as 4th financial center worldwide, next to London, New York, and Hong Kong. Singapore model is unique and cannot be copied by any country. For Vietnam, Industrialization is the only way, not the financial way by Singapore.

No wonder the richest guy in Malaysia, Robert Kuok Hock Nien, the second richest guy in ASEAN, moves most of his assets to Singapore, HK and mainland China. Same with the richest guy in Thailand, also the richest in ASEAN.

China is blessed to have been supported by overseas Chinese, during the world wars and during the economic transformation.

Mr. Kuok invested huge amount of money when foreign investment was fleeing from China in late 1980s and early 1990s though his advisors were against it. He like many overseas Chinese have taken active part in transforming urban landscape in China and created thousands of jobs.

Kuok's investment in Beijing

Shanghai

 

[mike2000 is back]

strange, but suddently I have the feeling you are nuts.
have you ever been to Singapore?
following your logic, if I said wanting a nice villa like my immediate neighbor reflecting my inferior complex, but if my neighbor is a chinese wanting to buy a second villa to brag like his american friend is not inferior complex but superior.

why is it bad for Vietnam to have a dream and copy from the bests?

pictures of Hanoi

Too bad Vietnam wasn't part of our former colony. It would have benefited from our legacy and system like hong Kong annd Singapore did.
@Vauban how come all your former colonies are so poor/doing bad compared to ours?

 

[Viet]

Too bad Vietnam wasn't part of our former colony. It would have benefited from our legacy and system like hong Kong annd Singapore did.
@Vauban how come all your former colonies are so poor/doing bad compared to ours?

there is major differences between English and French colonial systems. second, while HK and Singapore have been enjoying a long period of peace, the wars and economic sanctions ended in Vietnam just 25 years ago. the arms embargo virtually ended yesterday.

It is the place to hinder tax.

But now we know who parks their money in a save heaven countries, including in Singapore.

There are new rule that force them to open their bank secrecy.

There are two options to take the money back, by acting nice or force, depending on the ruler.

Vietnamese want to be Singapore as well...? The place to hinder tax.

Singapore is more than a tax heaven.

No wonder the richest guy in Malaysia, Robert Kuok Hock Nien, the second richest guy in ASEAN, moves most of his assets to Singapore, HK and mainland China. Same with the richest guy in Thailand, also the richest in ASEAN.

China is blessed to have been supported by overseas Chinese, during the world wars and during the economic transformation.

Mr. Kuok invested huge amount of money when foreign investment was fleeing from China in late 1980s and early 1990s though his advisors were against it. He like many overseas Chinese have taken active part in transforming urban landscape in China and created thousands of jobs.

Kuok's investment in Beijing
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Shanghai
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China real estates are overpriced. a bubble. a burst would eradicate all wealth accumulated in the last three decades.

 

[AndrewJin]

there is major differences between English and French colonial systems. second, while HK and Singapore have been enjoying a long period of peace, the wars and economic sanctions ended in Vietnam just 25 years ago. the arms embargo virtually ended yesterday.


Singapore is more than a tax heaven.


China real estates are overpriced. a bubble. a burst would eradicate all wealth accumulated in the last three decades.

Don't say too much political correct stuff
But I understand that since you are in another white country.

Reason is very simple, ethnic Chinese,
and their vital location.

 

[AViet]

Too bad Vietnam wasn't part of our former colony. It would have benefited from our legacy and system like hong Kong annd Singapore did.
@Vauban how come all your former colonies are so poor/doing bad compared to ours?

If you see things from this point of view, then I can provide a better ranking:

Mongol colonies are doing the best. Their main colonies, the former USSR (and Russia) and China, are both superpowers now. Big parts of Europe were also under Mongol control and now doing quite well. Clearly, Mongols are the best colonizers.

Second best, Japanese colonies: Taiwan, South Korea, Manchuria, Aleutian islands, Sakhalin island, Kuril Islands are now all doing well.

Third best, possibly Arab empire and Moor empire. Their former colonies, Spain, Portugal and big parts of southern Europe are also quite well-off, compared with Sub-saharan.

Former British, French and Spanish colonies are not doing so well as a whole. India and sub-Saharan Africa are enough example.

 

[Viet]

Hanoi itself has changed a lot in recent years, but has not reached the place what it wants to be. we should wait for another 5 years once the city metro and other infrastructures such as city highways, expansion of airport, bridges, etc currently under construction are complete.

 

[Carlosa]

Chinese ethnics in ASEAN have no interest in politics, only in making money. claiming the colonial western powers suppressed them in politics is wrong. moreover exile Chinese cooperated with all colonial powers, even with the Japanese army during the occupation of Singapore to make money.

when Chinese are in the minority, they simply cooperate or bribe the local governments or officials.

No, mainland China played nearly no role in accumulation of wealth until recently because China was poor. ethnics Chinese make money with the locals of the host countries, controlling trades, export/import, banks, retails. the locals aren´t smart. to say bluntly.

true, copying Singapore is impossible. what possible is copying a part of it. such as how to make the country corruption free.

Another very important reason (probably the most important reason) why Singapore is special and unique is the strait of Malacca. Can't copy that.

 

[Viet]

Another very important reason (probably the most important reason) why Singapore is special and unique is the strait of Malacca. Can't copy that.

true. but we have the possibility to take the business from them. or at least a part of it. what we need is developing a competitive network of sea ports along our coast: Saigon, Nha-Trang, Cam-Ranh, Da-Nang, Hai-Phong.

 

[AndrewJin]

If you see things from this point of view, then I can provide a better ranking:

Mongol colonies are doing the best. Their main colonies, the former USSR (and Russia) and China, are both superpowers now. Big parts of Europe were also under Mongol control and now doing quite well. Clearly, Mongols are the best colonizer.

Second best, Japanese colonies: Taiwan, South Korea, Manchuria, Aleutian islands, Sakhalin island, Kuril Islands are now all doing well.

Third best, possibly Arab empire and Moor empire. Their former colonies, Spain, Portugal and big parts of southern Europe are also quite well-off, compared with Sub-saharan.

Former British, France and Spanish colonies are not doing so well as a whole. India and sub-Saharan Africa are enough example.

Gosh, I forgot Sub-Sahara Africa and subcontinent.
Mercy on British islands!

 

[AViet]

Oh, I forgot about Western Huns from China, who conquered Europe, colonized and reshaped its geopolitics.

As Eastern Huns mixed and turned into Han Chinese now, Western Huns can be considered Chinese, so Chinese have been the best colonizers ever.