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[vostok]

Larry Vickers testing the Lebedev PL-15K pistol (Kalashnikov company).

 

[sikk]

Larry Vickers testing the Lebedev PL-15K pistol (Kalashnikov company).

I read that Udav O1 (Boa Constrictor) has been given contract to replace the Makarov..
I like the design of PL-15 but I will go for something which is very reliable,accurate and durable...
I will be buying a Russian firearm and has narrowed down to either PL-15 or Udav (civilian version ofc)..
At first I liked MP-446C Viking M very much but heard it had many flaws but some say it has lifespan of 50,000 rounds.. I dont know much.. do you have any idea about these weapons?

 

[vostok]

I read that Udav O1 (Boa Constrictor) has been given contract to replace the Makarov..
I like the design of PL-15 but I will go for something which is very reliable,accurate and durable...
I will be buying a Russian firearm and has narrowed down to either PL-15 or Udav (civilian version ofc)..
At first I liked MP-446C Viking M very much but heard it had many flaws but some say it has lifespan of 50,000 rounds.. I dont know much.. do you have any idea about these weapons?

I can't help you, because I never see those pistols.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Assault Revolver RSH-12, caliber 12.7 mm. Designed for Special Forces.
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Now that is something Id love to own.

Taurus Judge

The .410 bore and .45 Long Colt combination seemed natural. While it has been done before, Taurus brought the reputation of a major maker to the plate. Today there are lightweight and steel frame revolvers with various barrel lengths available. It seems almost everyone owns a Judge or two. Yet I have never seen anyone carry the Judge for concealed carry
The Judge is a bedroom gun as well as a field gun. As a field gun for protection against snakes, the Judge makes a lot of sense. While the old Snake Charmer shotgun did just fine, I prefer more than one shot; the Taurus gives us five.

The Judge chambers the .45 Colt cartridge, and there are versions that chamber either the 2.5-inch or 3-inch .410shell. For my two cents, you might as well get the longer cylinder and chamber 3-inch shells. The cylinder of the Judge is pretty long—2.7 inches with the 2.5-inch barrel revolver and a long 3.2 inches with the 3-inch chamber. That makes for a heavy gun and a wide frame. The Taurus is a swing out cylinder, double-action revolver with fixed sights. By the way, the piece would be illegal if it were a smooth bore: it would be a short shotgun, so the barrel is rifled.

The Taurus Judge is fast on target and plenty accurate enough for personal defense.

A word to the wise, this is not the revolver to hotrod the .45 Colt. Recoil is prohibitive even though the Judge is designed to be portable and light enough for field use. It handles quickly in tight quarters. Most of the practice should be with a good, low-pressure load such as the Federal 225-grain JSP. This load is pleasant to fire and accurate. Make no mistake; a .452-inch .45 caliber bullet is going to get the attention of anything it hits. Mild shooting and accurate just the same, the .45 Colt hits hard.

The choices in home defense loads often come down to which .410 load. There are loads with birdshot and even special 000 buckshot loads. The birdshot loads are fine for dispatching reptiles or rodents. Buckshot is the preferred defense load. The Federal four-pellet buckshot load in 2 ½-inch seems fine for across the room personal defense.

Lots of birdshot, and a couple of ball rounds from one handgun.

While the idea of getting a hit from a handgun-sized shotgun is viable at close range, the Judge must be aimed just as carefully as any other handgun. An advantage is that the buckshot load, with its relatively small and soft shot, will not penetrate as heavily as ball ammunition. When firing the Judge, the broad and easy-to-pick-up fixed sights are an advantage. The rubber grips that soak up recoil and give good adhesion are also good design features.

As for the lightweight frame gun, it is a good bit easier to pack around. The trade off is that recoil and muzzle flip are greater. It is a trade off; the lightweight revolver isn’t painful to fire, although with the heavier loads you know you have touched off something special.

The Taurus Judge As a Home Defense Revolver
With buckshot, the Judge should be considered a 10-yard gun at best. Past 10 yards, the range dispersion of the buckshot is such that the load becomes ineffective. At close range, four tightly clustered buckshot balls should produce a cessation of hostilities. With the 3-inch shells, five balls may be had with even greater effect.

The Judge is definitely a bedroom or home defense revolver with the .45 Colt. Accuracy at long range isn’t match grade with the shallow rifling, and it isn’t meant to be. In testing the Judge with a number of loads—including the Speer Gold Dot, a heavyweight 250-grain hollow point—the Judge keeps five rounds in a six-inch circle at 10 yards. Not many bedrooms are 10 yards long.
I think the .410 bore chambering is a neat trick but so is the .45—and here’s why. In the Judge, we have a modern double action defensive revolver in a proven caliber. I might add a proven non-magnum caliber that doesn’t snap the wrist in recoil. Yet, the revolver is light enough to handle quickly by virtue of its five-shot cylinder. The Judge offers a fiber optic front sight that gets on target quickly.

The .45 Colt in its original 255-grain loading earned an excellent reputation for effect on target. The bullet sometimes tumbles in the target. On the other hand, the modern Gold Dot load—although traveling a little over 700 fps from the Judge—expands to some .75-inch in ballistic media. That is .75-inch with a 250-grain bullet. That is a guaranteed wounding effect.

My associate and firearms expert (and soldier) Lee Berry gave the Taurus Judge a through test.

When in the wild, the big cats and feral dogs are more often a threat than bears. Perhaps the first three chambers could be loaded with buckshot and then ball rounds? If you are hiking in snake country, perhaps a first load of birdshot? That is versatility.

The Judge is a pure defense revolver. It isn’t for hunting and it isn’t a target gun.

It is a lifesaver.

While specialized, those specialized situations are pretty important!
Taurus Judge

Taurus "Raging Judge" Magnum revolver with a six inch barrel, chambered in .454 Casull, .45 Colt and .410 bore, all judges can fire .45 S&W as well.
Type Revolver
Place of origin Brazil
Production history
Manufacturer Taurus International
Produced 2010–present
Variants 4410, 4510, 513
Specifications
Weight 29 oz (820 g)
Length 7.5 in (190 mm)
Barrel length 3 in (76 mm)
Width 1.531 in (38.9 mm)
Height 5.394 in (137.0 mm)
Caliber .410 bore
.454 Casull
.45 Colt
.45 S&W
Action Double-action revolver
Feed system 5,6,7 round cylinder
Sights Fixed

Whats the damage in PKR?

 

[Maarkhoor]

Now that is something Id love to own.


Whats the damage in PKR?

It may cost you around 50 to 75000 PKR.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

i'm a (somewhat) pretty boy, living i a land where 400.000 sex starved refugees passed by so far.....slight sarcasm and exaggeration i admit, but only slight...thanks for info

You surrounded by Afghans or what?

It may cost you around 50 to 75000 PKR.

You sure? The other day I asked my armourer to get a Norinco TT, he quoted me 55K.

 

[Maarkhoor]

You sure? The other day I asked my armourer to get a Norinco TT, he quoted me 55K.

Multan Road Alam armory two years wanted to sell me around 55000 but my father told me not to buy since he consider it dangerous for having it as your side arm especially in the house since he believe spread can hit anyone around you "He was retired army officer and have experience so accept his advise" it was just like a brand new gun with few rounds fired from it.

You can check with the armory which I have mentioned may be they have more.

For T.T local made it starts from 5k to max 25k....

somebody trying to rob you.

 

[Kabotar]

Multan Road Alam armory two years wanted to sell me around 55000 but my father told me not to buy since he consider it dangerous for having it as your side arm especially in the house since he believe spread can hit anyone around you "He was retired army officer and have experience so accept his advise" it was just like a brand new gun with few rounds fired from it.

You can check with the armory which I have mentioned may be they have more.

For T.T local made it starts from 5k to max 25k....

somebody trying to rob you.

How much for local striker fire 9mm?

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Multan Road Alam armory two years wanted to sell me around 55000 but my father told me not to buy since he consider it dangerous for having it as your side arm especially in the house since he believe spread can hit anyone around you "He was retired army officer and have experience so accept his advise" it was just like a brand new gun with few rounds fired from it.

You can check with the armory which I have mentioned may be they have more.

For T.T local made it starts from 5k to max 25k....

somebody trying to rob you.

Norinco tts price was around 30-35k.
I just received a new arms license & was looking around for a cheap car carry weapon.

 

[Maarkhoor]

Norinco tts price was around 30-35k.
I just received a new arms license & was looking around for a cheap car carry weapon.

Buy baretta 9 mm local clone worth 50 to 60k.....mark my words you will have good buddy with you....Multan Road Haji Shafi brothers.....

Something like that but remember use only imported ammo.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Buy baretta 9 mm local clone worth 50 to 60k.....mark my words you will have good buddy with you....Multan Road Haji Shafi brothers.....

Bro id never buy a local clone.

Is say behtar hai buy DSA. @Foxtrot Alpha suggested me DSAs trushot and nine.

Trushot

Nine

I saw this baby too:

Hopefully next month, I’ll be paying them a visit at their main office in Peshwar.

Buy baretta 9 mm local clone worth 50 to 60k.....mark my words you will have good buddy with you....Multan Road Haji Shafi brothers.....

Something like that but remember use only imported ammo.

I have a beretta and a S&W MP. But I usually carry my old Makarov which im frankly not too happy with.

 

[hussain0216]

Hopefully next month, I’ll be paying them a visit at their main office in Peshwar.

if it's not too much bother, it will be interesting to hear what you think of the company, it's products etc

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

if it's not too much bother, it will be interesting to hear what you think of the company, it's products etc

Ive heard good things so far.

if it's not too much bother, it will be interesting to hear what you think of the company, it's products etc

They have modern CNC machines and use proper metal rather than scrap.

And they are producing A grade stuff which they sell to the Military.

 

[Kabotar]

Bro id never buy a local clone.

Is say behtar hai buy DSA. @Foxtrot Alpha suggested me DSAs trushot and nine.

Trushot

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Nine

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I saw this baby too:

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Hopefully next month, I’ll be paying them a visit at their main office in Peshwar.


I have a beretta and a S&W MP. But I usually carry my old Makarov which im frankly not too happy with.

Whats the price of nine?

 

[CodeforFood]

Yoyo, might as well ask here. Any opinions on SIG P239?

Thanks in advance.

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consider p365 more ammo and smaller too. pretty decent handling

Well if that's your application, then pick up a IWI Jericho/ CZ75 steel full frame.

emm not p01 instead??