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Hamid Mir attacks army

Bro if you report something wrong than obviously it comes at a price.

Just a few weeks ago army chief himself gave the example of hamid mir hypocrisy when asked a question about journalistic attacks after absar alam drama.

The only thing wrong they did was to overzealously air the accusations of a person, and present them with too much credibility. They were essentially supporting his accusation and lost their neutrality. They should present fairly and wait for an investigation.

I do not believe for a second that they were swayed to believe that Hamid Mir was lying. Early on they were defending him and defending their stance. Only when lots of pressure was applied, they lost their rankings by PEMRA, and their TV ratings, ad revenue, with a suspension of undefined length looming, did they finally buckle.
 
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First time I've seen bandage over shirt :partay:


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This is the level of these dogs

The most incompetent Army I must say, when it comes to shoot journalists if any. Pakistan Army is only good at shooting spies, enemies, terrorists, proxies or even those rats in Afghanistan but Hamid Mir, Taha Siddiqi, Norani, Mati, Absar, Asad Ali Toor, Gulalai and their likes always survives or never seriously wounded to near death.

May be the specific lot of journalists in Pakistan, have some kind of special powers as they survive and gives statement within hours of attack and finds ISI/Pakistan Army behind attacks. What a shame.
 
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The only thing wrong they did was to overzealously air the accusations of a person, and present them with too much credibility. They were essentially supporting his accusation and lost their neutrality. They should present fairly and wait for an investigation.

I do not believe for a second that they were swayed to believe that Hamid Mir was lying. Early on they were defending him and defending their stance. Only when lots of pressure was applied, they lost their rankings by PEMRA, and their TV ratings, ad revenue, with a suspension of undefined length looming, did they finally buckle.

To simply put they had not a single shred of evidence to back up the story they were running.



I will also be extremely critical of Toor story. It is laughable.
The ISI agent introduced himself as ISI agent, beat him with a PLASTIC pipe on his FOREARM, made him chant Pakistan Zindabad, Israel murdabad Afghanistan murdabad.

And there are people who actually believed this pranksters story, a paid tout.
 
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The way to handle such guys is to remove the oxygen they feed on. Learn from how the West does it. They have mastered the art of subterfuge:

1) Question such journalists and their journalistic credentials - move them to the margins of their profession
2) Every man and woman has skeletons in their closets. Identify his and use it as leverage. Where there is no leverage to have, use these as body blows to further erode their credibility.
3) Money is a corrupter. Without a doubt there would be dealings and transactions that are questionable. Expose those, including any international funding channels
4) Hit his institution and related parties with legitimate fines, fees and taxes. Basically follow the book to the hilt.
5) Make him and his associates radio-active.
6) Stop all international sourcing of funds and support through AML efforts
7) Put him and his cohorts into a legal merry go round.

The method to removing such snakes is to expose them to light. Dont go after their lives or their industry or their zaat. Make them individually a pariah and question their journalistic credentials and put them into legal, bureaucratic machinery. With time they'll become irrelevant and whither away.

That is the way the west handles their traitors, and that is the way to do it smartly. Not some sloppy Russian way that opens them to more scrutiny, or old school Pakistani method of "rubber hoses".
 
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To simply put they had not a single shred of evidence to back up the story they were running.

I will also be extremely critical of Toor story. It is laughable.
The ISI agent introduced himself as ISI agent, beat him with a PLASTIC pipe on his FOREARM, made him chant Pakistan Zindabad, Israel murdabad Afghanistan murdabad.

And there are people who actually believed this pranksters story, a paid tout.

Great, let's have an investigation then, not just for this tout but for all of them. Have both the accused and the accusers under oath, have FIA and the police collect evidence, record statements, etc. With this sort of scrutiny, there'd be nowhere to hide for anyone. The scum would be exposed whichever side they reside in.
The way to handle such guys is to remove the oxygen they feed on. Learn from how the West does it. They have mastered the art of subterfuge:

1) Question such journalists and their journalistic credentials - move them to the margins of their profession
2) Every man and woman has skeletons in their closets. Identify his and use it as leverage. Where there is no leverage to have, use these as body blows to further erode their credibility.
3) Money is a corrupter. Without a doubt there would be dealings and transactions that are questionable. Expose those, including any international funding channels
4) Hit his institution and related parties with legitimate fines, fees and taxes. Basically follow the book to the hilt.
5) Make him and his associates radio-active.
6) Stop all international sourcing of funds and support through AML efforts
7) Put him and his cohorts into a legal merry go round.

The method to removing such snakes is to expose them to light. Dont go after their lives or their industry or their zaat. Make them individually a pariah and question their journalistic credentials and put them into legal, bureaucratic machinery. With time they'll become irrelevant and whither away.

That is the way the west handles their traitors, and that is the way to do it smartly. Not some sloppy Russian way that opens them to more scrutiny, or old school Pakistani method of "rubber hoses".
A lot of these steps are already practised with great effect.
 
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Since the failures of plans and despite all efforts to keep Pakistan on backfoot; the rising Pakistan being only Muslim Atomic Power that challenged Israeli illegal occupation and human rights crimes openly without any fear, suddenly triggers people like Hamid Mir & Asad Ali Toor to act maliciously only if there will be a response. Ironically, Hamid Mir wasn't seen when Israeli jets bombed the hell out of AP & AJ offices in Palestine.

Speaking of attacking journalists in Pakistan, Asad Ali Toor wasn't attacked by any institution neither the absar alam or anyone else. In-fact, it was Geo that issues main page apology back then post Hamid Mir unsubstantiated rant. Son of a Mir wouldn't be speaking like that if there was a media blackout or being targeted for criticism. The way Hamid Mir speaks, Asad Blames, Absar orchestrated drama and many more; there is no example if any state would be suppressing and they will live freely like that. Their blames & then their own acts contradicts themselves but also, exposes them hypocrites or even people that believes into them.

Pakistan challenged Israel, India & deep pockets and suddenly Asad Toor & Mir started to speak foul. However, they want a reaction so that Pakistan can be labelled for wrong but Institutes knows the best while Hamid Mir can keep recalling a woman as such of his interest like that.
I find another thing funny.
Hamid meer accusing army of befriending india yet worked for amaan ki asha?
 
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This man is becoming too emotional. Something is working which has him so triggered.

Having said that - Pak Army has only itself to blame. When they work outside of their mandate they open themselves to such mindless drivel, and every tire burst in Pakistan becomes their responsibility or their acts. The politicians and their incompetence has been masterful in blame deflection. Bureaucrats have become masterful in blame deflection. Judiciary has become masterful in blame deflection. Every incompetent Pakistani has Army to thank for as their own incompetence can easily be put on the Army shoulders.

Sometimes I think the only way to solve this is to collapse the entire system. Build massive prison systems, and drop the lot in it. Organic change and evolution is not going to happen. Democracy is too weak a system and gets easily influenced by external parties and enemies. Bring a civilian run system of technocrats and reboot the whole experiment (judiciary and bureaucracy in particular). Otherwise one day this entire experiment might collapse under the weight of corruption and jahalat.
 
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This man is becoming too emotional. Something is working which has him so triggered.
I agree, never saw him that hyper before ... ?

BTW ye to hona hi tha...When Israeli FM tweets about how can Pakistan speaks on behalf of Palestine and act as “Human rights Champion” ... foreign funded assets had to show their loyalties to prove him right ...
 
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Five Reasons Why Hamid Mir (Jaffar) might be aggressive...and upset:
 
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