‘HAL will take full responsibility for Rafales’

[My-Analogous]

Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) chairman T Suvarna Raju on Thursday said that HAL is willing to take full responsibility for the Rafales that it manufactures if the contract with French Defence major Dassault is signed. The comment assumes significance in the backdrop of a disagreement between India and Dassault over who would take guarantee for the Rafale fighter jets.
The Medium Multi Role Combat Aircraft project involves buying of 18 aircraft from Dassault in flyaway condition, while the rest are to be manufactured by HAL under license.
‘HAL will take full responsibility for Rafales’ | The Indian Express


so what does that mean ??
Dassault wouldnot be held responsible for jets manufactured by HAL .

and dassault can now easily save it's skin from blames & legal sues by india if any of those 95 million dollar rafale jet built by HAL from indian tax payer's money crashes !!





CHEERS

What i understand that Indian is asked guarantee that by making the recipe of french dish in India, it must be tasty as made in France.

 

[Bhuvan93]

What i understand that Indian is asked guarantee that by making the recipe of french dish in India, it must be tasty as made in France.

Which the French were fullly aware of and agreed to when they entered the tender...

 

[My-Analogous]

Which the French were fullly aware of and agreed to when they entered the tender...

In production line every one have a standard and no other company can take responsibility of other company statdrad of work until or unless it will take over by other company management and this is commonsense.

 

[OTTOMAN]

Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) chairman T Suvarna Raju on Thursday said that HAL is willing to take full responsibility for the Rafales that it manufactures if the contract with French Defence major Dassault is signed. The comment assumes significance in the backdrop of a disagreement between India and Dassault over who would take guarantee for the Rafale fighter jets.
The Medium Multi Role Combat Aircraft project involves buying of 18 aircraft from Dassault in flyaway condition, while the rest are to be manufactured by HAL under license.
‘HAL will take full responsibility for Rafales’ | The Indian Express


so what does that mean ??
Dassault wouldnot be held responsible for jets manufactured by HAL .

and dassault can now easily save it's skin from blames & legal sues by india if any of those 95 million dollar rafale jet built by HAL from indian tax payer's money crashes !!





CHEERS

What value a statement holds?
Dassault should not settle for any less than a written contract, where penalties are clearly defined, according to european standards.

 

[NKVD]

What value a statement holds?
Dassault should not settle for any less than a written contract, where penalties are clearly defined, according to european standards.

Penalty of what

 

[acid rain]

Any Cretin knows dassault cannot take responsibility for HAL's cackhanded manufacturing. It beggers belief that the morons at HAL want to pin the responsibility onto dassault .

You go into a shop buy a model plane kit, bring it home. Instead of using the right tools, following the instructions, built in the correct order, using stringent QC and tests, you decide its going to take far too long with your limited abilities and decide you know better.

When the thing falls from the sky, ask for a refund from the shop because they sold it to you and it is the shops responsibility.

Only in the gagaland that HAL inhabits can you do that.

You go into a gunshop buy a gun shoot yourself in the foot because you didnt put the safety catch on and then blame the gunshop and claim for a replacement foot. .

Wrong reference..

You buy a Sony product made in china in china and it has a defect or causes injury to you...you take it to Sony to get it repaired or sue Sony for damages...In effect the OEM not the fabricator.

 

[MokshaVimukthi]

What i understand that Indian is asked guarantee that by making the recipe of french dish in India, it must be tasty as made in France.

Ever wonder why mcdonalds burger made in any part of the world taste the same ?

Every franchise from US to pakistan to Japan to Nigeria produce the same burger.

Same thing goes for aircrafts too.

 

[Turingsage]

Wrong reference..

You buy a Sony product made in china in china and it has a defect or causes injury to you...you take it to Sony to get it repaired or sue Sony for damages...In effect the OEM not the fabricator.

That's because Sony accepts "full responsibility" in the guarantee that comes with the product. The guarantee of course applies for a designated period after which no one takes responsibility of any kind and you are on your own.
Here "full responsibility" is accepted by HAL for what comes out of HAL's karkhana.
Just as when you eat in a restaurant and the food isnt right, you seek recompense from the restaurant and not some french/italian/chinese who wrote the recipe in a cookbook.

 

[acid rain]

That's because Sony accepts "full responsibility" in the guarantee that comes with the product. The guarantee of course applies for a designated period after which no one takes responsibility of any kind and you are on your own.
Here "full responsibility" is accepted by HAL for what comes out of HAL's karkhana.
Just as when you eat in a restaurant and the food isnt right, you seek recompense from the restaurant and not some french/italian/chinese who wrote the recipe in a cookbook.

Again, wrong reference sirjee about food. If it's packaged food bought from a supermarket, the complaint goes to the manufacturer...OEM.

We are giving billions for the best air frame and it's dassault responsibility to supply the best...The payment is based in life cycle cost and maintenance, so servicing it is also their responsibility.

 

[Turingsage]

Again, wrong reference sirjee about food. If it's packaged food bought from a supermarket, the complaint goes to the manufacturer...OEM.

We are giving billions for the best air frame and it's dassault responsibility to supply the best...The payment is based in life cycle cost and maintenance, so servicing it is also their responsibility.

Personally I dont care anymore. Why stop pointing at dassault when HAL accepts full responsibility. Hell sue the wright brothers for inventing the aeroplane, sue frank whittle for inventing the jet engine, he surely got it all wrong, go sue computer makers and CAD systems on which the the plane was designed, Go sue the French govt for allowing dassault to exist cause if it didnt exist there would no such issues. You get the idea, you can start sueing god while you are at it, cause if he had not created the world HAL would not be in a situation of having to make those jets in the mechanics shed that HAL calls a factory.

Everyone and everything is responsible except those that sign the contract and accept "full responsibility" to screw together a modern warplane.

This is my last and final post on this thread.

Please remember I am not arguing that if dassault provides a faulty part then dassault is not responsible, but that is huge jump from asking dassault to be responsible for your own screwmanship in your own "factory" where dassault has no control on victorian management, incompetent personnel, quality control and build methodology from the 1940's.

 

[cerilchan]

why come this statement come this time,very misleading and mystery and something fishey? to be investigated.