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i say to you before. we can't compare plane and helicopter. if Anza can destroy plane it can very easy destroy helicopter. simple.

see here Anza power

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anza_(missile)#Operational_history

I guess you are unaware of the working principle of MAWS. A relatively less velocity of the target compared to missile gives enough time for the multiple sensors to acquire the approaching missile and dispense chaff and flare as countermeasure.

Since you're an expert in this 'fileds', please tell me the kind of semiconductors being used in IR sensor, otherwise we will assume you're a troll without any knowledge.
 
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there are no countermessures in helicopter. no radar. no electronic warfare. no chefs. no anything. helicopter can't move fast to miss missile. so easy target also.
Really?

"LCH will have Day/night targeting systems for the crew which includes helmet-mounted sight and an Elbit CoMPASS ,electro-optic/infrared turret,Digital video recorder, MFD in the cockpits for Pilots to receive adequate information and inputs along with MAWS and Counter-measures dispensing system for self-protection . HAL also plans to integrate NCW to transfer mission data to other airborne platforms and ground command operating in the area."
http://idrw.org/exploring-export-prospects-of-hals-light-combat-helicopter-lch/
 
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I guess you are unaware of the working principle of MAWS. A relatively less velocity of the target compared to missile gives enough time for the multiple sensors to acquire the approaching missile and dispense chaff and flare as countermeasure.

Since you're an expert in this 'fileds', please tell me the kind of semiconductors being used in IR sensor, otherwise we will assume you're a troll without any knowledge.
MAWS is only good with powerful radar like USA apache. tell us what radar LCH having? also there missile that travel 600m/s now fired from just 2km how you stop it? explain. no not possible.

i know but i wish not to speak names of chips also chips not my subject. if i do it prove nothing. you are using some technical words but you not well knowing about war reality.

Really?

"LCH will have Day/night targeting systems for the crew which includes helmet-mounted sight and an Elbit CoMPASS ,electro-optic/infrared turret,Digital video recorder, MFD in the cockpits for Pilots to receive adequate information and inputs along with MAWS and Counter-measures dispensing system for self-protection . HAL also plans to integrate NCW to transfer mission data to other airborne platforms and ground command operating in the area."
http://idrw.org/exploring-export-prospects-of-hals-light-combat-helicopter-lch/
i am correct. MAWS for helicoper is only face saving. it don't work like in planes. please ask pilots.
 
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MAWS is only good with powerful radar like USA apache. tell us what radar LCH having? also there missile that travel 600m/s now fired from just 2km how you stop it? explain. no not possible.

i know but i wish not to speak names of chips also chips not my subject. if i do it prove nothing. you are using some technical words but you not well knowing about war reality.

Here you proved that you're just a troll. MAWS and RWRS are entirely different purposes and working principle.
 
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Here you proved that you're just a troll. MAWS and RWRS are entirely different purposes and working principle.
lol you know nothing about MAWS. you know that there different MAWS are threre? best systems are radar based. lol. do some research.

still pleasa explain how you stop missile coming 600m/s from 2km?
 
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so you agree your phone your pc is made in china.
Nope, not at all!!Just because a few of the components which were manufactured in the factories owned by OEMs and which happened to be in PRC due to the dirt cheap labor costs in there, do not make them Chinese procucts, since all the IPRs of those components are still owned by the OEMs and the Chinese engineers had absolutely no contribution in their development cycle!!
so big question is why not in india? india can not make china like electrics. so this is hard fact.
Because the companies decided to set up their manufacturing plants in PRC!!The electronics (and all kinds of items) which come from original Chinese vendors are of piss poor quality to put it mildly.


Why you say i wrong? can you tell me 1 plane in asia better then JF-17? no. lol

J 10 and its variants!!Heck, even the LCA prototypes and TDs have got vastly superior radars and electronics than what's onboard your in service jf 17s!! :lol:

pakistan was win kargil. only because india cried to usa it stop.
You are a funny dude, really. :D

india has never won any war aginst pakistan.
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only 1 war in bangladesh. becuuse big distance between.
Yet in the western front alone, pakistan managed to lose over 6000 square kilometer of its landmass, despite the half @rsed nature of the Indian offensives!! :lol:

remember 1965.
You mean the part where we killed 3 times as many of your soldiers than you killed ours and our forces desimated your armored formations one by one, or are you talking about the part where you statred the conflict with the aim to take Kashmir and ended up barely defending Lahore by quite literally, the skin of your teeth, as the saying goes??!!Yeah, I do remember those.
remember kargil. same can happen agin.
You mean, your soldiers might run back once again with their tails tucked between their hind legs, like your chinese masters??!!Yeah, there is indeed some real possiblities of that happening again, in fact, I'm quite sure that, yet again, the things will unfold exactly the same way!!
so don't think low of pakistan.
Oh no, never!!After all, I'm just a lowly mortal, how could I even dare to think low of you nordic master people??!! :D

india can't make high technology like china. not in dreams.
No, not in dreams but in reality!!
india can't make rifle and ammo how make semi conductor? think.
Actually, we make better rifles than your Chicom masters do!!

indian goverment propaganda. face saving. like indian goverment always do. look at right now india ran away from doklam. china win. but india spreading lies. very very sad. open your eyes see truth.
It appears that the cowardice of your chicom masters have given you quite the jolt!!Don't worry, it'll pass.........eventually..........may be.
i say to you before. we can't compare plane and helicopter. if Anza can destroy plane it can very easy destroy helicopter. simple.
The MiG 21, which was neither equipped with MAWS nor flares, was shot down by a Stinger and not by a fuckking Anza!!Downing a modern attack chopper, equipped with state of the art EWS comprising RWS and differnt types of MAWS sensors, giving nearly 360 degree situational awarness would be a whole different ball game altogether!!
And besides, Indian attack choppers will be armed with ATGMs like LAHAT and HELINA, both of which have ranges greater than 8 km, so the choppers wouldn't even need to enter the engagement envelops of your hyoer galactic Anza Banzas in the first place!!
Wikipedia!! :rofl:

lol you know nothing about MAWS. you know that there different MAWS are threre? best systems are radar based. lol. do some research.
No you moron!!The best all round MAWS are the ones with combined IR-UV ones!!
still pleasa explain how you stop missile coming 600m/s from 2km?
You do not stop the incoming missiles, you direct them away from your platform by either using flares or DIRCM.
 
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Nope, not at all!!Just because a few of the components which were manufactured in the factories owned by OEMs and which happened to be in PRC due to the dirt cheap labor costs in there, do not make them Chinese procucts, since all the IPRs of those components are still owned by the OEMs and the Chinese engineers had absolutely no contribution in their development cycle!!

Because the companies decided to set up their manufacturing plants in PRC!!The electronics (and all kinds of items) which come from original Chinese vendors are of piss poor quality to put it mildly.
whatever make you feel good. but hard truth is your money going china.

J 10 and its variants!!Heck, even the LCA prototypes and TDs have got vastly superior radars and electronics than what's onboard your in service jf 17s!! :lol:
J 10 is still devloping. so i let it. but no worries j 10 too will join pakistani airforce soon. so pakistan air force will becaome 2nd most powerful in asia.

please don't compare fail tejas to JF-17 it is insulting.

Yet in the western front alone, pakistan managed to lose over 6000 square kilometer of its landmass, despite the half @rsed nature of the Indian offensives!! :lol:

You mean the part where we killed 3 times as many of your soldiers than you killed ours and our forces desimated your armored formations one by one, or are you talking about the part where you statred the conflict with the aim to take Kashmir and ended up barely defending Lahore by quite literally, the skin of your teeth, as the saying goes??!!Yeah, I do remember those.
indian goverment lies. please learn more in true history.

i tell you this go google search dwarka pakistan attack. you will know dwarka was destroyed by pakistani air force. all city was rebuild. also search waht happen in punjab. how many tanks are gone in punjab.lol half rajasthan was captured by pakistani army in 65. lol.

The MiG 21, which was neither equipped with MAWS nor flares, was shot down by a Stinger and not by a fuckking Anza!!Downing a modern attack chopper, equipped with state of the art EWS comprising RWS and differnt types of MAWS sensors, giving nearly 360 degree situational awarness would be a whole different ball game altogether!!
And besides, Indian attack choppers will be armed with ATGMs like LAHAT and HELINA, both of which have ranges greater than 8 km, so the choppers wouldn't even need to enter the engagement envelops of your hyoer galactic Anza Banzas in the first place!!
mig 21 and also mirage 2000 and mig 27 all downed by Anza. hard fact. in kargil indian airforce refuse to fly because of afraid of Anza power. this is hard fact.

No you moron!!The best all round MAWS are the ones with combined IR-UV ones!!

You do not stop the incoming missiles, you direct them away from your platform by either using flares or DIRCM.
no you best MAWS are only radar only. it is doppler radar.

you can't direct fast missile from short distnce. you forget pilot's reaction time is minimum 7 seconds.
 
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Mig 27 was shot down by a SA18 (Anza Mark II) missile in Kargil. It did not flame out.
You ignorant fool!!That Mig 27 wasn't shot down by any one!!It crashed due to an engine flame out instead!!

Change your flags!!
 
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whatever make you feel good. but hard truth is your money going china.
dont know what you are smoking but it must be good

J 10 is still devloping. so i let it. but no worries j 10 too will join pakistani airforce soon. so pakistan air force will becaome 2nd most powerful in asia.
Really??
much better than Russia,Israel,South korea,tiawan,India and Japan???
please don't compare fail tejas to JF-17 it is insulting.
lol lca is much more advanced than your junk with composites,flyby-wire ,Hmd and a better radar.

indian goverment lies. please learn more in true history.

i tell you this go google search dwarka pakistan attack. you will know dwarka was destroyed by pakistani air force. all city was rebuild. also search waht happen in punjab. how many tanks are gone in punjab.lol half rajasthan was captured by pakistani army in 65. lol.
What kind of bs is this.dwarka suffered minimal loss to a railway station and this is final result of 65 War.
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mig 21 and also mirage 2000 and mig 27 all downed by Anza. hard fact. in kargil indian airforce refuse to fly because of afraid of Anza power. this is hard fact.
No mirage was shot down only mig 21 Was shot down and onw Mig 27 suffered engine failure.
mirages did this
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no you best MAWS are only radar only. it is doppler radar.

you can't direct fast missile from short distnce. you forget pilot's reaction time is minimum 7 seconds.
LCH is equipped to deflect all your obselete manpads.
 
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Mig 27 was shot down by a SA18 (Anza Mark II) missile in Kargil. It did not flame out.

That was a Mig 21 Bis, the 27 crashed due to engine flame out, everyone knows that.

whatever make you feel good.
The truth is always bitter, m8. :D

but hard truth is your money going china.
Nothing so hard about it.The thing is, prc is nothing more than a huge sweat shop.

J 10 is still devloping.
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but no worries j 10 too will join pakistani airforce soon.
That will never happen.Wanna know why, kiddo??I'll tell you why - because your begging bowl is already full with your junk fighter 17s and Al bander tanks while your pockets are empty!!You just don't have the money to buy the J 10s!! :lol:
And even if we are to believe your claim for a moment just for the argument's sake, what's gonna those planes from getting obliterated right on their parking space by our missiles and artillery, given the close proximity of your air bases to the border??!!
so pakistan air force will becaome 2nd most powerful in asia.
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please don't compare fail tejas to JF-17 it is insulting.
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Yet that 'failed tejas' has got vastly superior radars, EWS, HMDs, full digital FBW in, better engines, better air frame better everything compared to your premium air defence fighters!!So where does that leave you, kiddo?? :lol:
indian goverment lies.
What, the truth is too bitter for your taste, kid??!! :lol:
please learn more in true history.
Where??From your madrasa pamphlets??!! :rofl:
i tell you this go google search dwarka pakistan attack. you will know dwarka was destroyed by pakistani air force. all city was rebuild.
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also search waht happen in punjab. how many tanks are gone in punjab.
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lol half rajasthan was captured by pakistani army in 65. lol.
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mig 21 and also mirage 2000 and mig 27 all downed by Anza. hard fact. in kargil indian airforce refuse to fly because of afraid of Anza power. this is hard fact.
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no you best MAWS are only radar only. it is doppler radar.
Whatever rocks your boat mouse. :D
you can't direct fast missile from short distnce. you forget pilot's reaction time is minimum 7 seconds.
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Really??
much better than Russia,Israel,South korea,tiawan,India and Japan???
russia is not asia russia is europe. pakistan airforce is better then israel, korea. pakistan airforce is on same level of japan and india. japan doesn't have tacticle bomb on missile and with j 10 even india too will left behind. so pakistan becomes no2.

lol lca is much more advanced than your junk with composites,flyby-wire ,Hmd and a better radar.
all that featcher come with JF17 too. also JF17 flies with weapons too. also 100s of JF17 in service too. no comerision.

What kind of bs is this.dwarka suffered minimal loss to a railway station and this is final result of 65 War.

No mirage was shot down only mig 21 Was shot down and onw Mig 27 suffered engine failure.
mirages did this
All face saving lies.

LCH is equipped to deflect all your obselete manpads.
no you not understant. no helicopter can deflect fast coming close range missile. you wanting to happen impposibe.
 
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low flying helicopter in desert will be big mistake. you can see long distance in desert. helicopter be seen from long distance. so no use.

in ladakh is mountains. also useless because easy target for hidden manpads in mountains.

there are no countermessures in helicopter. no radar. no electronic warfare. no chefs. no anything. helicopter can't move fast to miss missile. so easy target also.
Desert storm operations says different story.
 
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That was a Mig 21 Bis, the 27 crashed due to engine flame out, everyone knows that
learn truth.:enjoy:

Nothing so hard about it.The thing is, prc is nothing more than a huge sweat shop.
if super power china is sweat shop what is poor india?:rofl:


That will never happen.Wanna know why, kiddo??I'll tell you why - because your begging bowl is already full with your junk fighter 17s and Al bander tanks while your pockets are empty!!You just don't have the money to buy the J 10s!! :lol:
And even if we are to believe your claim for a moment just for the argument's sake, what's gonna those planes from getting obliterated right on their parking space by our missiles and artillery, given the close proximity of your air bases to the border??!!
pakistan has lots of money. so don't worry. also friend china will give loan for planes.

Yet that 'failed tejas' has got vastly superior radars, EWS, HMDs, full digital FBW in, better engines, better air frame better everything compared to your premium air defence fighters!!So where does that leave you, kiddo?? :lol:
no tejas is mess from inside too. also it is developing for 30 years. also it don't fly with weapons. not useful for war. also compat radias is only 300km. so you see tejas ia fail plane. tejas is so big fail indian airforce hates it. indian pilot say that mig-21 better then tejas. so how you compare this fail with asia's no 1 plane made in pakistan.

Desert storm operations says different story.
oh no please not speak of USA. it is fail country. they can't beat simple taliban.

you are not knowing enough about what happen in desert storm. i read books on this. i tell you here.

so in operation desert strom america use black hawk with machine gun but they were ambushed by iraq army. they used apache but that too having issue of visibility. so finaly they canceld helicopters for war. they only used helicopter in safe space to pick and drop ground force. no use in helicopter combat after they learn their lesson.

so please understand this. even in mosul russia did not use helicopter. no one is stupid.
 
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pakistan was win kargil but india run to usa and clinton put sanctions on pakistan so this is what happen.

remeber pakistani army was ready to use nuclear bomb in delhi for kargil but usa stopped pakistan.

here read full truth from general himself

https://www.geo.tv/article-185103-India-wont-forget-Kargil-war-says-Musharraf

more then lch. right?
You mean to say.. Pakistan betrayed Kashmiri once again of there freedom for sake of few $$? and also the ghazwa e hind deam?:D
 
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