Had Operation Chengiz Khan not happened,could Bangladesh been created?

[Truth Finder]

Before Operation Chengiz Khan, guerrilla war was going on. Guerrilla war can continue for decades. But, the pre-emptive strikes carried out by the Pakistani Air Force (PAF) on the forward airbases and radar installations of the Indian Air Force (IAF) on the evening of 3 December 1971 led to the direct conflicts. Was it the biggest blunder that actually created Bangladesh?
Operation Chengiz Khan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[third eye]

Before Operation Chengiz Khan, guerrilla war was going on. Guerrilla war can continue for decades. But, the pre-emptive strikes carried out by the Pakistani Air Force (PAF) on the forward airbases and radar installations of the Indian Air Force (IAF) on the evening of 3 December 1971 led to the direct conflicts. Was it the biggest blunder that actually created Bangladesh?
Operation Chengiz Khan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Not really, by then i.e. 3rd Dec things had reached a head.

As regards creation of BD, it would have been created but not maybe in the form it exists today and that too with enormous loss of lives.

 

[Kompromat]

Indian forces had been actively supporting the Mukhti Bahini and carrying out covert operations way before the operation gengis khan. India already had been in a state of war with Pakistan. Operation gengis khan was a consequence of the Indian aggression not the cause, as the Indian propaganda would have you believe.

They want to agress, aggravate AND look innocent [taking us for fools of course] at the same time.

 

[Truth Finder]

Indian forces had been actively supporting the Mukhti Bahini and carrying out covert operations way before the operation gengis khan. India already had been in a state of war with Pakistan. Operation gengis khan was a consequence of the Indian aggression not the cause, as the Indian propaganda would have you believe.

They want to agress, aggravate AND look innocent [taking us for fools of course] at the same time.

Indian Military wanted PA to attack India. It was the trap. But, PA acted according to the desire of Indian Military. They should have continued to counter the guerrilla war. But, they did not. That is why it was a blunder.

 

[hkdas]

Indian forces had been actively supporting the Mukhti Bahini and carrying out covert operations way before the operation gengis khan. India already had been in a state of war with Pakistan. Operation gengis khan was a consequence of the Indian aggression not the cause, as the Indian propaganda would have you believe.

They want to agress, aggravate AND look innocent [taking us for fools of course] at the same time.

just like pakistan supports terrorism around the world.

 

[Mav3rick]

Bangladesh was a disaster waiting to happen ever since Quaid-e-Azam accepted a Pakistan on either sides of India. I mean, you can have dedicated, patriotic citizens on either side for so long only especially when the feeling is that you are being deprived of your rights.

India only accelerated the process. The only way Pakistan could have continued to hold on to Bangladesh would have been by extreme force, like India does to Kashmir. Advantage with India in Kashmir is that it is physically linked unlike Bangladesh to Pakistan.

 

[hkdas]

IA wanted PA to attack India. It was the trap. But, PA acted according to the desire of IA. They should have continued to counter the guerrilla war. But, they did not. That is why it was a blunder.

not indian army it is R&AW's plan. they want pakistan to attack india first. PAF conducted airstrikes in 11 air bases and no loss for indian air force they were prepared for the strike. it was a trap for pakistan military. it was a brilliant plan which give an outstanding victory for india..

 

[Kompromat]

IA wanted PA to attack India. It was the trap. But, PA acted according to the desire of IA. They should have continued to counter the guerrilla war. But, they did not. That is why it was a blunder.

PA didn't have resources to fight under these circumstances.

• Military sanctions from its sole supplier for over 6 years.
• Outnumbered by 1-25 - Indians + Mukhti Bahini
• Naval Blockade
• Non existent supply route
• Non existent air force
• Non existent air lift capability
• Non existent reinforcement for men and ammo.
• Little support among the population as it was a civil war
• No hope of any help from the west or from the US
• No naval support

Our men fought bravely under these conditions, overall the war was lost by the politicians and the greed of Mr - Bhutto. General Niazi was used as a scapegoat.

This was the year when Pakistan and India became enemies and that is not likely to change, not at least in this century.

 

[Truth Finder]

not indian army, it is R&AW's plan. they want pakistan to attack india first. PAF conducted airstrikes in 11 air bases and no loss for indian air force they were prepared for the strike. it was a trap for pakistan military.

Yes, it was Indian Military, not IA.

 

[Kompromat]

just like pakistan supports terrorism around the world.

India has supported terrorism from East Pakistan, to Sri Lanka, to Pakistan, to Tibet to Afghanistan. Please keep your lectures locked in that brain of yours, no one is going to buy what you have been fed.

 

[Truth Finder]

PA didn't have resources to fight under these circumstances.

• Military sanctions from its sole supplier for over 6 years.
• Outnumbered by 1-25 - Indians + Mukhti Bahini
• Naval Blockade
• Non existent supply route
• Non existent air force
• Non existent air lift capability
• Non existent reinforcement for men and ammo.
• Little support among the population as it was a civil war
• No hope of any help from the west or from the US
• No naval support

Our men fought bravely under these conditions, overall the war was lost by the politicians and the greed of Mr - Bhutto. General Niazi was used as a scapegoat.

This was the year when Pakistan and India became enemies and that is not likely to change, not at least in this century.

So, why did PAF attack when they had no support ? Why was it not a blunder ?Guerrilla war would have continued for decades.

 

[Kompromat]

So, why did PAF attack when they had no support ? Why was it not a blunder ?Guerrilla war would have continued for decades.

To take out India's air power which would have enabled Pakistan to extend support to the eastern flank. Operation gengis khan didn't achieve its objectives due to many reasons, had it been as successful as planned, it could have changed the game in ways we cannot comprehend now.

 

[sree45]

So, why did PAF attack when they had no support ? Why was it not a blunder ?Guerrilla war would have continued for decades.

IA was already making preparations for a December war. They would have definitely attacked E.P before the end of first week. Pakistan realized it and wanted to capture significant portion of Indian land by making a surprise attack in Punjab and other parts.

 

[third eye]

PA didn't have resources to fight under these circumstances.

• Military sanctions from its sole supplier for over 6 years.
• Outnumbered by 1-25 - Indians + Mukhti Bahini
• Naval Blockade
• Non existent supply route
• Non existent air force
• Non existent air lift capability
• Non existent reinforcement for men and ammo.
• Little support among the population as it was a civil war
• No hope of any help from the west or from the US
• No naval support

Our men fought bravely under these conditions, overall the war was lost by the politicians and the greed of Mr - Bhutto. General Niazi was used as a scapegoat.

This was the year when Pakistan and India became enemies and that is not likely to change, not at least in this century.

As regards becoming enemies - animosity began in 1947 and not 1971. We fought in 65 too, were we friends then ?

There is merit in everything else in the post above except for two things.

All the bullet point above were known to PA & Yahya khan on 2nd Dec, prudence would have said not to make a pre emptive attack as what transpired later was a foregone conclusion.

Next, the war was not lost by the Politicians but the Generals were more to blame. They should have seen it coming as late as Aug 71 and worked towards avoiding it. The Pak Eastern Command lost the will to fight - a fact borne out by the numbers of soldiers who became POW and the equipment & ammo surrendered. Niazi kept thumping his chest saying that ' Over my dead body" but failed on the ground to translate his bravado in the field.

Niazi was torn between a forward posture to deny loss of an enclave that could become Bangladesh and defence of Dhaka which could have become a Stalingrad - he fell between two stools.

 

[Truth Finder]

To take out India's air power which would have enabled Pakistan to extend support to the eastern flank. Operation gengis khan didn't achieve its objectives due to many reasons, had it been as successful as planned, it could have changed the game in ways we cannot comprehend now.

Blunder means"a stupid or careless mistake". You dream something big. But, you not only fail to do so, but invite massive lose. Hence, Operation Chengiz Khan was a blunder in every aspect.