Only 4 were found dead - so much drama and were holding up whole armada? Where rest of terrorists gone? Things does not add up.
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Only 4 were found dead - so much drama and were holding up whole armada? Where rest of terrorists gone? Things does not add up.
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First of all, you are off topic here.
And, If you are so proud of Indias capability of running IS terrorists then feel free to donate couple of millions to Bagdadi from your personal wealth. He is going to need them...
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1. Anyone can accuse anyone with anything. Stop crying...
2. It is you who is crying with victimshood complex not me...
3. Again, you are crying...
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Former Indian army veterans all praise for Bangladesh para-commandos
Subir Bhaumik, bdnews24.com
Published: 2017-03-28 12:56:56.0 BdST Updated: 2017-03-28 13:09:26.0 BdST
"They displayed a very high level of operational maturity and tactical patience. They were not derailed from their focus by Saturday's bombings on the outer cordon. The use of snipers to take out the militants was the right choice. When militants have suicide vests on, it is important to avoid close quarter combat to the extent possible," said Lt Gen John Ranjan Mukherjee, who commanded a corps in Kashmir and retired as chief of staff of India's Eastern Army Command.
Mukherjee, one of India's leading counter-terrorism veterans, with long experience in Kashmir and the Northeast, said the Bangladesh para commandos had 'their priorities absolutely right.'
John Ranjan Mukherjee
"Taking the civilians to safety first and leaving none behind to be taken hostages and doing all that while under fire was a great achievement and the right thing to do. The lessons of Holey Artisan were clearly not lost on them," Mukherjee said.
"Unlike the Pakistan army, which goes berserk when hit or under fire, the Bangladesh soldiers and their commanders have displayed a very cool head under adversity," said Mukherjee, a veteran of the 1971 war.
He congratulated 17 Division GOC Maj Gen Anwarul Momen, 1st Para-Commando Battalion CO Lt Col Imrul Hassan and other officers and men involved in 'Operation Twilight.'
"From the bottom of my heart, I give them my best wishes on a very successful operation. Being macho needlessly is no good, losing troops unnecessarily is no good."
His one-time colleague Maj Gen Arun Roye, who was deputy chief of India's leading counter-insurgency force Assam Rifles, said the success of 'Operation Twilight' was due to the 'full delegation of authority to those who matter'.
"It was a very good idea to leave it to the commanders on the ground to decide on tactical alternatives. In India, we often have too much interference from senior officers and politicians. That did not happen there (Sylhet)."
Roye, who retired as Bengal Area GOC and was India's military attaché in the US, praised the 1st Para-Commandos for three decisions:
>> Removing the television and media from the operational zone;
>> Painstakingly evacuating the civilians to avoid a hostage situation;
>>Managing the combat engagement tactfully with good 'fire control' to prise open the location of militants for sniper hits;
Roye said that the Bangladesh Army’s handling of the media environment was a 'lesson for all armies to learn.'
Arun Roye
"They did the job brilliantly. Enough details were released, even videos and still pictures, but no operational detail was leaked. Our commanders made such mistake during Mumbai 26/11 operations because everyone wants to take credit," said Roye.
"This was possible because none in Bangladesh army or police was into one-upmanship. That is one lesson we all should learn from."
Roye also gave full credit to army spokesperson Brig Gen Fakhrul Ahsan for crediting police for accurate intelligence.
"That is how you develop team spirit between different forces involved in operations. That is how you avoid working at cross purposes."
Maj Gen KK Ganguly, who commanded Indian army in Sri Lanka's Jaffna operations, said that Operation Twilight shows the Bangladesh Army has nicely evolved into a 'thinking, cerebral army'.
"Many armies have leaders who brag too much. During operations, they face TV cameras and make tall claims. Bangladesh army seems to have commanders who think hard and finish an operation without making tall claims."
He said 'Operation Twilight' will further boost the credibility of Bangladesh Army and will make them more sought after by the UN.
Former field commanders echoed the views of the senior generals.
KK Ganguly
Col Ashis Das, who fought insurgents in Kashmir and Northeast and is credited with capturing a major hill during the 1986 confrontation with China, agreed with Mukherjee and Roye.
"Fighting fanatic terrorists prepared to blow themselves up in a populated built up area is the army's worst nightmare. The Bangladesh para-commandos displayed great skill and tactical finesse in handling a delicate situation."
Das and his former colleague Col Partha Bhattacharyya also lauded the Bangladesh government for putting its full trust in the army to handle the job.
"In India, we often have needless political interference. Our politicians often shy away from tough decisions. That is clearly not the case in Bangladesh," said Das.
Col Bhattacharya, who served in Kashmir and Northeast and also in 'very difficult situations abroad', agreed. "Bangladesh has the political will to tackle terrorism. And they have very competent soldiers and policemen who are prepared to do whatever it takes to fight against terror."
Both Das and Bhattacharya praised the 'tactical restraint' displayed by the para commandos.
"The Russians would have taken down the whole building or pumped gas into it without rescuing civilians first, as they did in the Moscow theatre years ago. The Pakistanis would have opened indiscriminate fire. The Bangladesh army used force in the right measure, there was no overkill," said Das.
Bhattacharyya, formerly of military intelligence, also praised the 'quality and accuracy of intelligence' in Sylhet."That makes a huge difference'.
"The way Bangladesh is fighting terror speaks a lot about the country. They will do well in whatever they do," said Bhattacharya.
Agreed Colonel Soumitra Ray."Bangladesh Army has come a long way. They are mission-focused and task-oriented. Ops Twilight proved it."
Msg by Col Mustafiz:
Lets pray for Lieutenant colonel Azad. Perhaps only a miracle through our prayers may save his life.
Msg from Singapore.
FYIP.
Updt LTC Azad 1010 hr (local time)/0810 hr (BD time)-28 Mar 17:
Assalamualkum.
Dr. Timothy Lee, the treating Neuro Surgeon has examined the patient this morning and made an updt to us. HE High Commissioner, LTC Amir (accompanying physician from CMH) and Mr. Pappu (Brother in law of LTC Azad) was present in the appraisal meeting by the Dr.
Dr. stated that LTC Azad is clinically "Brain Dead." Its humanly not possible to bring him back. However his other organs particularly the heart is beating due to Life support system and medication. At this stage the Dr has given 04 options:
1. Option-1: He may continue treatment with Life support in ICU here in ME Hospital. In this case his heart is likely to collapse in 01-02 weeks time. However each day in ICU will cost around SGD 10,000/=
2. Option-2: He may continue treatment with extremely essential drugs in ICU. It may reduce the heart functioning span in 4-5 days or so and then collapse.
3. Option-3: Remove the Life support now and declare him dead, which is generally not practiced in Asian culture.
4. Option-4: Fly back the patient to Dhaka by Air Ambulance and allow him to make his last breath in presence of his friends and family members.
The accompanying Dr LTC Amir is sending the above info to CMH and Mr. Pappu is sending the same to LTC Azad's family for next course of action in Singapore.
Based on the on ground situation and Dr's statement I recommend to fly back the patient by Air Ambulance. And allow his family members and friends to see him during the last stage of his life.
Lets pray for a miracle by Almighty. Allah please do mercy on his family .
Subir Bhaumik, bdnews24.com
Published: 2017-03-28 12:56:56.0 BdST Updated: 2017-03-28 13:09:26.0 BdST
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An Armoured Personnel Carrier (APC) tears down the wall surrounding two buildings in Sylhet's Shibbari on Saturday. Militants, who set up a hideout in one of the flats, had been launching assaults on security personnel from inside the building. Photo: ISPR
"They displayed a very high level of operational maturity and tactical patience. They were not derailed from their focus by Saturday's bombings on the outer cordon. The use of snipers to take out the militants was the right choice. When militants have suicide vests on, it is important to avoid close quarter combat to the extent possible," said Lt Gen John Ranjan Mukherjee, who commanded a corps in Kashmir and retired as chief of staff of India's Eastern Army Command.
Mukherjee, one of India's leading counter-terrorism veterans, with long experience in Kashmir and the Northeast, said the Bangladesh para commandos had 'their priorities absolutely right.'
John Ranjan Mukherjee
"Taking the civilians to safety first and leaving none behind to be taken hostages and doing all that while under fire was a great achievement and the right thing to do. The lessons of Holey Artisan were clearly not lost on them," Mukherjee said.
"Unlike the Pakistan army, which goes berserk when hit or under fire, the Bangladesh soldiers and their commanders have displayed a very cool head under adversity," said Mukherjee, a veteran of the 1971 war.
He congratulated 17 Division GOC Maj Gen Anwarul Momen, 1st Para-Commando Battalion CO Lt Col Imrul Hassan and other officers and men involved in 'Operation Twilight.'
"From the bottom of my heart, I give them my best wishes on a very successful operation. Being macho needlessly is no good, losing troops unnecessarily is no good."
His one-time colleague Maj Gen Arun Roye, who was deputy chief of India's leading counter-insurgency force Assam Rifles, said the success of 'Operation Twilight' was due to the 'full delegation of authority to those who matter'.
"It was a very good idea to leave it to the commanders on the ground to decide on tactical alternatives. In India, we often have too much interference from senior officers and politicians. That did not happen there (Sylhet)."
Roye, who retired as Bengal Area GOC and was India's military attaché in the US, praised the 1st Para-Commandos for three decisions:
>> Removing the television and media from the operational zone;
>> Painstakingly evacuating the civilians to avoid a hostage situation;
>>Managing the combat engagement tactfully with good 'fire control' to prise open the location of militants for sniper hits;
Roye said that the Bangladesh Army’s handling of the media environment was a 'lesson for all armies to learn.'
Arun Roye
"They did the job brilliantly. Enough details were released, even videos and still pictures, but no operational detail was leaked. Our commanders made such mistake during Mumbai 26/11 operations because everyone wants to take credit," said Roye.
"This was possible because none in Bangladesh army or police was into one-upmanship. That is one lesson we all should learn from."
Roye also gave full credit to army spokesperson Brig Gen Fakhrul Ahsan for crediting police for accurate intelligence.
"That is how you develop team spirit between different forces involved in operations. That is how you avoid working at cross purposes."
Maj Gen KK Ganguly, who commanded Indian army in Sri Lanka's Jaffna operations, said that Operation Twilight shows the Bangladesh Army has nicely evolved into a 'thinking, cerebral army'.
"Many armies have leaders who brag too much. During operations, they face TV cameras and make tall claims. Bangladesh army seems to have commanders who think hard and finish an operation without making tall claims."
He said 'Operation Twilight' will further boost the credibility of Bangladesh Army and will make them more sought after by the UN.
Former field commanders echoed the views of the senior generals.
KK Ganguly
Col Ashis Das, who fought insurgents in Kashmir and Northeast and is credited with capturing a major hill during the 1986 confrontation with China, agreed with Mukherjee and Roye.
"Fighting fanatic terrorists prepared to blow themselves up in a populated built up area is the army's worst nightmare. The Bangladesh para-commandos displayed great skill and tactical finesse in handling a delicate situation."
Das and his former colleague Col Partha Bhattacharyya also lauded the Bangladesh government for putting its full trust in the army to handle the job.
"In India, we often have needless political interference. Our politicians often shy away from tough decisions. That is clearly not the case in Bangladesh," said Das.
Col Bhattacharya, who served in Kashmir and Northeast and also in 'very difficult situations abroad', agreed. "Bangladesh has the political will to tackle terrorism. And they have very competent soldiers and policemen who are prepared to do whatever it takes to fight against terror."
Both Das and Bhattacharya praised the 'tactical restraint' displayed by the para commandos.
"The Russians would have taken down the whole building or pumped gas into it without rescuing civilians first, as they did in the Moscow theatre years ago. The Pakistanis would have opened indiscriminate fire. The Bangladesh army used force in the right measure, there was no overkill," said Das.
Bhattacharyya, formerly of military intelligence, also praised the 'quality and accuracy of intelligence' in Sylhet."That makes a huge difference'.
"The way Bangladesh is fighting terror speaks a lot about the country. They will do well in whatever they do," said Bhattacharya.
Agreed Colonel Soumitra Ray."Bangladesh Army has come a long way. They are mission-focused and task-oriented. Ops Twilight proved it."
Msg by Col Mustafiz:
Lets pray for Lieutenant colonel Azad. Perhaps only a miracle through our prayers may save his life.
Msg from Singapore.
FYIP.
Updt LTC Azad 1010 hr (local time)/0810 hr (BD time)-28 Mar 17:
Assalamualkum.
Dr. Timothy Lee, the treating Neuro Surgeon has examined the patient this morning and made an updt to us. HE High Commissioner, LTC Amir (accompanying physician from CMH) and Mr. Pappu (Brother in law of LTC Azad) was present in the appraisal meeting by the Dr.
Dr. stated that LTC Azad is clinically "Brain Dead." Its humanly not possible to bring him back. However his other organs particularly the heart is beating due to Life support system and medication. At this stage the Dr has given 04 options:
1. Option-1: He may continue treatment with Life support in ICU here in ME Hospital. In this case his heart is likely to collapse in 01-02 weeks time. However each day in ICU will cost around SGD 10,000/=
2. Option-2: He may continue treatment with extremely essential drugs in ICU. It may reduce the heart functioning span in 4-5 days or so and then collapse.
3. Option-3: Remove the Life support now and declare him dead, which is generally not practiced in Asian culture.
4. Option-4: Fly back the patient to Dhaka by Air Ambulance and allow him to make his last breath in presence of his friends and family members.
The accompanying Dr LTC Amir is sending the above info to CMH and Mr. Pappu is sending the same to LTC Azad's family for next course of action in Singapore.
Based on the on ground situation and Dr's statement I recommend to fly back the patient by Air Ambulance. And allow his family members and friends to see him during the last stage of his life.
Lets pray for a miracle by Almighty. Allah please do mercy on his family .
Cops were killed while the operation was ongoing - they were on the outer cordon that was set up away from the apartment complex.
Atia Mahal is where the operation took place and the officers along with civilians were killed next to the madrassa.
As you know too well - curiosity is one thing people in the subcontinent aren't short off...hundreds of onlookers gathered, and the terrorist mixed in with the crowd...and well, 2 officers and 4 by standers were killed along with ~40 injured.
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You know what, that was some good banter.
r i g h t! so were told. Just as story of
Bangladesh factory worker who survived 17 days trapped beneath collapse declared hoax by fellow survivor
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/bangladesh-factory-survivor-declared-hoax-article-1.1386360
after getting Dumb and Dumber (Fakhrul and Rizvi) to support Islamist terrorists and call actions against them 'fake', 'staged', 'drama'....and not to mention the minions on here...
madam has spoken...
Afraid of being given a shunting by the Army and after the entire nation saw the dead and injured, has come out with this statement -
'one or two successes'
BNP wants to help combat Islamist terrorism...
No cause for satisfaction over 'successes in a few anti-terror raids', says BNP chief Khaleda
Senior Correspondent, bdnews24.com
Published: 2017-03-29 00:13:57.0 BdST Updated: 2017-03-29 00:56:36.0 BdST
The nation must be united in dealing with radicalism, she said in a statement released on Tuesday night.
The situation, according to her, did not call for self-satisfaction over just "one or two successful operations".
But she congratulated the para-commandos, who on Tuesdayformally ended their operation on a building in Sylhet's Shibbari where militant suspects had been hiding.
Four militant suspects including a woman was found dead inside the building after the siege ended on Monday evening. A day before, 78 residents of the building complex, 'Atia Mahal', were successfully evacuated.
But two consecutive blasts, a kilometer away from the operation site, killed six people including two police officers and injured several more on Saturday.
"I congratulate the army para-commandos and other security forces for their successful combat of terrorists who were secretly storing weapons and explosives at a house in Sylhet," said the statement.
"I offer my condolences to security personnel and ordinary citizens who were killed or injured in this operation."
Terrorism is a global crisis and Bangladesh is not separate from it, she said.
"We must take international support and achieve national consensus as we combat this crisis. We have been pleading for this. But our calls are being neglected."
Now, for lets take a quick walk down memory lane from one of the most reputed national dailies - Prothom Alo
Terrorist patrons are 8 BNP Ministers and MP's
Bangla Bhai's(head of JMB - since executed) armed cadres under police escort/protection rally across Rajshahi City
madam has spoken...
Afraid of being given a shunting by the Army and after the entire nation saw the dead and injured, has come out with this statement -
'one or two successes'
BNP wants to help combat Islamist terrorism...No cause for satisfaction over 'successes in a few anti-terror raids', says BNP chief Khaleda
Senior Correspondent, bdnews24.com
Published: 2017-03-29 00:13:57.0 BdST Updated: 2017-03-29 00:56:36.0 BdST
BNP Chairperson Khaleda Zia (File Photo)
The nation must be united in dealing with radicalism, she said in a statement released on Tuesday night.
The situation, according to her, did not call for self-satisfaction over just "one or two successful operations".
But she congratulated the para-commandos, who on Tuesdayformally ended their operation on a building in Sylhet's Shibbari where militant suspects had been hiding.
Four militant suspects including a woman was found dead inside the building after the siege ended on Monday evening. A day before, 78 residents of the building complex, 'Atia Mahal', were successfully evacuated.
But two consecutive blasts, a kilometer away from the operation site, killed six people including two police officers and injured several more on Saturday.
"I congratulate the army para-commandos and other security forces for their successful combat of terrorists who were secretly storing weapons and explosives at a house in Sylhet," said the statement.
"I offer my condolences to security personnel and ordinary citizens who were killed or injured in this operation."
Terrorism is a global crisis and Bangladesh is not separate from it, she said.
"We must take international support and achieve national consensus as we combat this crisis. We have been pleading for this. But our calls are being neglected."
Now, for lets take a quick walk down memory lane from one of the most reputed national dailies - Prothom Alo
Terrorist patrons are 8 BNP Ministers and MP's
Bangla Bhai's(head of JMB - since executed) armed cadres under police escort/protection rally across Rajshahi City
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Awami league and india terror producers....
BDR Massacre: Ruling party leader arrested in Bangladesh
.......
Meanwhile, there are indications that a number of front-ranking figures in Bangladesh Awami League may also be arrested soon for their involvement behind the BDR Massacre in Dhaka. State Minister Jahangir Kabir Nanak, Parliamentary Whip Mirza Azam [brother-in-law of Islamist militancy kingpin Shaikh Abdur Rahman], Haji Mockbull, Mohiuddin Khan Alamgir, Abdul Jalil, Shamim Osman and several more are already in the suspect list of the investigators.
There is a specific eye of the investigators on Mirza Azam when the case of murder of Colonel Gulzar Uddin Ahmed turned public. Gulzar, one of the brightest army officers who were killed in the "armed rebellion", is best known for his efficient detection and operations against Islamist militants and terrorists. He was the man behind arrest of Jamaatul Mujahedin kingpin Shaikh Abdur Rahman.
Gulzar was known as one of the brightest army officers of the country. Because of his knowledge about the militants' network, Gulzar was a revered name in the country's law-enforcement and defence agencies.
Gulzar is a legend in the anti-terrorist and anti-Islamist drives. His skill, professionalism, knowledge and sincerity are beyond question. His commitment was unparallel. He was all along a resourceful and professional officer in regards to militancy, terrorism or any heinous acts. He was honest down to the core."
As the Awami League government's explicit commitments include a fight against terrorism and religious extremists, it was expected that the government would benefit from Gulzar's skills and knowledge on the matter. But he was transferred to BDR as the commander of Sylhet Sector at the end of January.
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/bangladesh-gunfight-at-bdr-headquarters.22410/page-51
BDR Massacre: Ruling party leader arrested in Bangladesh
.......
Meanwhile, there are indications that a number of front-ranking figures in Bangladesh Awami League may also be arrested soon for their involvement behind the BDR Massacre in Dhaka. State Minister Jahangir Kabir Nanak, Parliamentary Whip Mirza Azam [brother-in-law of Islamist militancy kingpin Shaikh Abdur Rahman], Haji Mockbull, Mohiuddin Khan Alamgir, Abdul Jalil, Shamim Osman and several more are already in the suspect list of the investigators.
There is a specific eye of the investigators on Mirza Azam when the case of murder of Colonel Gulzar Uddin Ahmed turned public. Gulzar, one of the brightest army officers who were killed in the "armed rebellion", is best known for his efficient detection and operations against Islamist militants and terrorists. He was the man behind arrest of Jamaatul Mujahedin kingpin Shaikh Abdur Rahman.
Gulzar was known as one of the brightest army officers of the country. Because of his knowledge about the militants' network, Gulzar was a revered name in the country's law-enforcement and defence agencies.
Gulzar is a legend in the anti-terrorist and anti-Islamist drives. His skill, professionalism, knowledge and sincerity are beyond question. His commitment was unparallel. He was all along a resourceful and professional officer in regards to militancy, terrorism or any heinous acts. He was honest down to the core."
As the Awami League government's explicit commitments include a fight against terrorism and religious extremists, it was expected that the government would benefit from Gulzar's skills and knowledge on the matter. But he was transferred to BDR as the commander of Sylhet Sector at the end of January.
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/bangladesh-gunfight-at-bdr-headquarters.22410/page-51
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This russel guy and Idune guy are mirror images of each other. Always posting for partisan propaganda. 
This russel guy and Idune guy are mirror images of each other. Always posting for partisan propaganda.
aha, got it! you have 'newbie syndrome'; gullible and could not tell right from wrong.
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after getting Dumb and Dumber (Fakhrul and Rizvi) to support Islamist terrorists and call actions against them 'fake', 'staged', 'drama'....and not to mention the minions on here...
madam has spoken...
Afraid of being given a shunting by the Army and after the entire nation saw the dead and injured, has come out with this statement -
'one or two successes'
No cause for satisfaction over 'successes in a few anti-terror raids', says BNP chief Khaleda
Senior Correspondent, bdnews24.com
Published: 2017-03-29 00:13:57.0 BdST Updated: 2017-03-29 00:56:36.0 BdST
Militancy cannot be eradicated just by conducting anti-terror operations, says BNP Chairperson Khaleda Zia.
BNP Chairperson Khaleda Zia (File Photo)
The nation must be united in dealing with radicalism, she said in a statement released on Tuesday night.
The situation, according to her, did not call for self-satisfaction over just "one or two successful operations".
But she congratulated the para-commandos, who on Tuesdayformally ended their operation on a building in Sylhet's Shibbari where militant suspects had been hiding.
Four militant suspects including a woman was found dead inside the building after the siege ended on Monday evening. A day before, 78 residents of the building complex, 'Atia Mahal', were successfully evacuated.
But two consecutive blasts, a kilometer away from the operation site, killed six people including two police officers and injured several more on Saturday.
"I congratulate the army para-commandos and other security forces for their successful combat of terrorists who were secretly storing weapons and explosives at a house in Sylhet," said the statement.
"I offer my condolences to security personnel and ordinary citizens who were killed or injured in this operation."
Terrorism is a global crisis and Bangladesh is not separate from it, she said.
"We must take international support and achieve national consensus as we combat this crisis. We have been pleading for this. But our calls are being neglected."
Now, for lets take a quick walk down memory lane from one of the most reputed national dailies - Prothom Alo
Terrorist patrons are 8 BNP Ministers and MP's
Bangla Bhai's(head of JMB - since executed) armed cadres under police escort/protection rally across Rajshahi City
Did you really have to post picture of that thing? It looks like a ghost/zombie. Gross!
Cops were killed while the operation was ongoing - they were on the outer cordon that was set up away from the apartment complex.
Atia Mahal is where the operation took place and the officers along with civilians were killed next to the madrassa.
As you know too well - curiosity is one thing people in the subcontinent aren't short off...hundreds of onlookers gathered, and the terrorist mixed in with the crowd...and well, 2 officers and 4 by standers were killed along with ~40 injured.
Wait so the cops were killed from gunfire directed from outside the cordon? Were those responsible for that taken care of? Or it was a suicide blast you mean?
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Far from that house , Where people Gathered to watch all the activities - There Terrorists from outside dropped a time bomb and fled. Desperate attempt to Save the NEW ISIS head MUSA (KIA) . However Killing the heads doesnt mean anything. Newbies turn into head within weeks. Terrorist Dogs.
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