‘Guns procurement caught in snakes, ladders game’ : Army Chief

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Bogged down by delays in procurement of guns to bridge critical gaps in its artillery, Indian Army chief General VK Singh on Thursday said the purchase of these weapon systems is caught in “a snakes and ladders game” in which there are “no ladders”.

Gen Singh, who was addressing his annual press conference here ahead of the Army Day to be celebrated on Sunday, was asked about his optimism exactly a year ago of procuring at least one type of artillery guns in 2011, but it did not materialize.

“The procurement game is a version of snakes and ladders where there is no ladder but only snakes, and if the snakes bite you somewhere, the whole thing comes back to zero,” Singh said.

In the last 25 years, India has not bought even a single gun after the then government of Rajiv Gandhi was hit by a pay-off scandal over procurement of the Bofors guns.

All efforts by the army to procure four types of guns in the last few years have met with failures and the latest effort to buy 145 ultra light howitzers M777 from the BAE Systems stable through the foreign military sales route from the US too is caught up in red tape.

Asked about his assurance last year on inducting artillery guns, Gen Singh said, “this time it is not the snake which has bitten us, but there is certain problem area that came up, certain committee was made and certain things were referred to the law ministry.”

He also expressed the hope that the guns planned for induction would come through soon.

“We have put in place a very comprehensive and a very well thought out plan by which both indigenous development, certain amount of acquisition and certain amount of joint ventures have been meshed together. So that in years to come we get out of this type of the problem,” he added.

The Indian Army has expressed its intention of buying four types of artillery guns, but has failed to procure even one of them, including the 145 ultralight howitzers of 155mm 39 calibre guns from the US for which efforts were initiated two years ago.

Among the guns required by the Indian Army are 155mm 53 calibre towed guns numbering 1,180, another 180 155mm 52 calibre wheeled self propelled guns, 100 of 155mm 52 calibre tracked self propelled guns, apart from the 145 ultra light howitzers.

These guns are required by the army to replace its 1970s vintage guns of 105mm, 122mm and 130mm calibre.

 

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Indian Army chief hopes artillery guns will be delivered soon - Brahmand.com

Noting that the acquisition of artillery guns has been stung by "snakes in a game where there were no ladders" delaying the process, Indian Army Chief General V K Singh has hoped that the guns will soon be delivered to the Army.

The Indian Army has not been able to induct even a single gun for its artillery after the Bofors gun deal scam in the late 1980s.

"The procurement game is a version of snakes and ladder where there is no ladder but only snakes, and if the snakes bite you somewhere, the whole thing comes back to zero," Gen Singh said when reminded of his promise last year of inducting at least one type of gun in the last calendar year.

He was referring to cases such as that of M-777 Ultra Light Howitzers (ULH) which was referred to the Law Ministry.

"This time it is not the snake which has bitten us, but there is certain problem area that came up, certain committee was made and certain things were referred to the Law Ministry," Gen Singh said.

Queried whether the guns will be delivered to the Indian Army or not, Gen Singh said, "I am hopeful it will come and the procedure that we have put in place will also ensure that both indigenous (guns) as well as what we are acquiring (through FMS route) will be in place."

He said that the Army has devised a way to ensure that such problems do not occur in future.

"We have put in place a very comprehensive and a very well thought out plan by which both indigenous development, certain amount of acquisition and certain amount of joint ventures have been meshed together. So that in years to come we get out of this type of the problem," he said.

Replying to a question on acquisitions made by the Army during his tenure, Gen V K Singh said more than 70 per cent of allotted budget has been used this year and the force disbursed more than 100 per cent of the allocated money last year.

"Last year, it was for the first time that the Army spent more than 100 per cent of its budget because of the measures which we have initiated. This year we have already done almost 70 per cent of our budget," Gen Singh said.

"We have a large number of items in the pipeline and if these fructify, we may reach about Rs 5,000 crore worth. If for some reason (this does not happen), then we will come to Rs 2500 crore in terms of acquisition," he said.

"We have taken care of our surveillance system both in the ground and the aerial-based ones. We have taken care of ensuring that some of our critical deficiencies which were affecting us operationally have gone forward. We have signed things for removing our night blindness," the Army chief said.

He further added that the Army has gone forward on the decision support system and a large number of items are at a stage where they will get signed now.

"You are aware that whole process of acquisition from the time that you start looking at it takes about 34 months. (But) If something happens, which can include letter written by somebody, the whole thing comes back to zero and you re-start," he said.

Denying any issue with the Ministry, he said the matters get delayed because of various reasons.

"There are no problems as such with the Ministry. The processes are such that at times things get delayed for various reasons. At times things get stuck because of the way we put up our case and because of various other things which come as inputs to the Ministry," he said.

Replying to a question on transformation studies carried out by Army, he said sub-committees were formed to find ways for implementing the studies and barring a few, most of the suggestions have been put in place.

He also listed the transformation process in the Army Headquarters and reorganisation of formations as his biggest achievements in the service.

He said the existing verticals in the AHQ have been integrated to ensure smooth functioning and more such exercise will take place in future.

The Army Chief said it has been proposed to create an aviation brigade at all the Corps which will help in rapid mobilisation of troops.

He said the force had recently practised operations with aviation brigades during the Operation Sudarshan Shakti.

General Singh said the brigade will have a mix of choppers for various roles and it will be raised in coming years to support the troops.

IAF and Army had struck a discordant note on the issue with the latter maintaining that the rotary wing support is essential for faster movement and deployment of troops.

Praising the Arjun Main Battle Tank (MBT), Gen Singh said, "It is a good tank and the issues with it would be corrected in the Mark-II and III versions."

On Dhruv helicopter, he said the issues are with its serviceability and the Defence Ministry has been informed about it.

 

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ARJUN Mk-3????
Any info on that?

 

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Indian Army chief hopes artillery guns will be delivered soon - Brahmand.com

Queried whether the guns will be delivered to the Indian Army or not, Gen Singh said, "I am hopeful it will come and the procedure that we have put in place will also ensure that both indigenous (guns) as well as what we are acquiring (through FMS route) will be in place."

Someone please elaborate the bolded part!!!! Any info regarding that????? We are supposed to opt for BAE howitzers most probably. Is it???