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From across the Pacific, Taiwan's president castigates California shooting​


TAIPEI, Taiwan — Taiwan's president has condemned the shooting at a Taiwanese church in California by a man reportedly driven by hatred of the island, while a lawmaker from her ruling party questioned whether Chinese propaganda was a motivating factor behind the violence.

President Tsai Ing-wen's office issued a statement Tuesday saying she condemned "any form of violence," extended her condolences to those killed and injured and had asked the island's chief representative in the U.S. to fly to California to provide assistance.

The suspect in the shooting, David Chou, 68, of Las Vegas, had ties to a Chinese-backed organization opposed to Taiwan's independence, according to Taiwanese media. Those details could not immediately be confirmed.

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Notes reflect the suspect's dislike of the island​

Chou's hatred toward the island, documented in hand-written notes that authorities found, appears to have begun when he felt he wasn't treated well while living there.

A former neighbor said Chou's life unraveled after his wife left him and his mental health had been in decline.

Chou's family appeared to be among the roughly 1 million refugees from mainland China who moved to Taiwan at around the time of the Communist sweep to power on the mainland in 1949.

The former Japanese colony had only been handed over to Nationalist Chinese rule in 1945 at the end of World War II, and relations between mainlanders and native Taiwanese were often tense.

Separated by language and lifestyle, incidents of bullying and confrontation between the sides were frequent.

Many mainlander youth, who were concentrated in the major cities, joined violent organized crime gangs with ties to the military and Chinese secret societies, in part to defend themselves against Taiwanese rivals.

The Presbyterian Church is the most prominent of the Christian dominations in Taiwan and was closely identified with the pro-democracy movement under decades of martial law era and later with the Taiwan independence cause.
He is as Taiwanese as Chiang Kai Shek, Ma Ying Jeou and TSMC.
 
David Chou might have thought he is a defender of current Constitution of Republic of China, aka "Taiwan", which claims both Mainland China and Taiwan Island as "indivisible" parts of One China. It's those pro-independence Taiwanese separatists who are unconstitutional radicals.
 
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David Chou might have thought he is a defender of current Constitution of Republic of China, aka "Taiwan", which claims both Mainland China and Taiwan Island as "indivisible" parts of One China. It's those pro-independence Taiwanese separatists who are unconstitutional radicals.

By shooting up a bunch of old people in a California church?

Suspect in deadly Orange County church shooting charged with 10 counts, could face death penalty​


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He opened fire and in the ensuing chaos Dr. John Cheng, 52, tackled him, allowing other parishioners to subdue him and tie him up with extension cords, authorities said.

Apart from the first-degree murder charge for the death of 52-year-old John Cheng, Chou also faces 5 counts of attempted murder and four counts of possessing destructive devices with the intent to kill or harm.

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The other injured victims, four men and one woman, were identified as being between the ages of 66 and 92.
 
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By shooting up a bunch of old people in a California church?



He opened fire and in the ensuing chaos Dr. John Cheng, 52, tackled him, allowing other parishioners to subdue him and tie him up with extension cords, authorities said.

The other injured victims, four men and one woman, were identified as being between the ages of 66 and 92.

I am just guessing the underlaying ideology of his motivation or insanity.
 
But according to you guys here, since Taiwanese are ethnic Chinese, this make Chou a Chinese regardless of the spelling of his name. So this is a Chinese on Chinese killing.

Yeah, but they are either both Chinese or both Taiwanses. You can't have it both ways. I guess a headline like "California church shooter is a Taiwanese immigrant who hates Chinese" wouldn't be as juicy, and the OP wouldn't even bother to open this thread. :partay:
 
He is a proud 100% all American USMC vet.


Chou worked as a journalist in Taiwan before coming to the United States, Orellana said. In his adopted country, he said, he served in the Marines and was “very proud” of it, Orellana said, recalling how Chou draped some 20 American flags throughout his property.
 
If this violence was committed the opposite way, (or by someone else) the usual suspect would be posting about it almost instantaneously.

If the violence were committed the opposite way, the MSM would call it an isolated incident of a mentally disturbed person.

They would NEVER acknowledge the Sinophobia presented in the Western media, just as they almost NEVER acknowledge the Islamophobia promoted.by the Western media around the world.
 
Why the same people who never got problems in China but turned into mass shooters once they live in US? nurture over nature?
It must be mess in Chinese head. All bottled up hate which finds no expression in closed Chinese society. Sudden new found freedom leads them to use it that freedom wrong. Chinese society needs a liberal western democracy based revolution.
 
Yeah, but they are either both Chinese or both Taiwanses. You can't have it both ways. I guess a headline like "California church shooter is a Taiwanese immigrant who hates Chinese" wouldn't be as juicy, and the OP wouldn't even bother to open this thread. :partay:

Since the shooting was politically motivated, not racially, then the ethnicity of the shooter and victims is not relevant. The average Westerner doesn't know or care about the difference between China and Taiwan. They wouldn't know the difference between a Korean, Japanese or Chinese.

The mainstream Western media deliberately wants to link the words 'China' and 'hatred' as part of their anti-China propaganda campaign.
 
It must be mess in Chinese head. All bottled up hate which finds no expression in closed Chinese society. Sudden new found freedom leads them to use it that freedom wrong. Chinese society needs a liberal western democracy based revolution.
Nope he's a Taiwanese American proud USMC veteran. He owned 20+ US flags.

He wasn't born in, educated in or ever a citizen of the PRC.

How disrespectful to a veteran of the US military. He fought for your freedom.
 
Why the same people who never got problems in China but turned into mass shooters once they live in US? nurture over nature?
Probably has something to do with access to guns. In China you banned it for a good reason right? You have people doing mass stabbings.
 

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