Guess Which planes ( rear picture) in Northern India Ready for War

[Ultima Thule]

Yep Derby Mark 1
But moving to Derby ER with the Mark1a & the indian Astra BVR mark 1

I have always said with the mostly western technology ie Usa /israeli cockpit and engines and world class quadruplex FBW syte for flight control Tejas will be a very useful combat plane in the 3rd tier behind Su30mki and rafale.

Thanks for the west to Doing R&D/designing your LCA AKA Tej@$$$, the only thing you do buy parts from all over the world and assembled it in India

 

[The Maverick]

Thanks for the west to Doing R&D/designing your LCA AKA Tej@$$$, the only thing you do buy parts from all over the world and assembled it in India

YES GOOD point = good replacement for MIG21 bison though

 

[Chandrguptaa]

Whatever this unknown report is, The same smoky engine family equips Mig-29UPGs , Mig-29Ks and likely any Mig-35s(from which the RD-93MA engine is taking tech from).
The Chinese struggle with metallurgy is well known, but unlike a certain engine which unlike its namesake river has completed stopped flowing as a program despite all the help from SNECMA; Chinese engines which were developed with whatever reverse engineering knowledge and plain grit now equip a large percentage of their operational fleet and are replacing their AL-31s on their earlier types.

Thata why your air force refused to use them and want russian oldies?

Yep Derby Mark 1
But moving to Derby ER with the Mark1a & the indian Astra BVR mark 1

I have always said with the mostly western technology ie Usa /israeli cockpit and engines and world class quadruplex FBW syte for flight control Tejas will be a very useful combat plane in the 3rd tier behind Su30mki and rafale.

Mark1a will be equipped with uttam AESA of DRDO & will be integrated with ASRAM, Mica-ER & Meteor with homegrown Astra & NGARM.

 

[Ultima Thule]

Thata why your air force refused to use them and want russian oldies?

Their engine tech isn't reliable/mature yet as compare to west/USA/Russia (experience) they are quite new in this field, turbofan engine technologies one of the most difficult technology on earth

uttam AESA of DRDO

Based on Israeli ELTA ELM 2052 AESA

YES GOOD point = good replacement for MIG21 bison though

Where are your INDIGENOUS LCA/TEJ@$$ then

 

[Chandrguptaa]

Their engine tech isn't reliable/mature yet as compare to west/USA/Russia (experience) they are quite new in this field, turbofan engine technologies one of the most difficult technology on earth


Based on Israeli ELTA ELM 2052 AESA


Where are your INDIGENOUS LCA/TEJ@$$ then

Lol, A country which doesn't have Engineering ability of Producing a turbocharged 125 CC bike engine is giving sermons to HAL,
Which receive 40% of it's business from Western countries.
Tejas is flying high with our tech & Fly high in every Air-Show unlike Chinese JF-17 which doesn't has balls to perform infront of Tejas.

 

[Ultima Thule]

Tejas is flying high with our tech & Fly high in every Air-Show unlike Chinese JF-17 which doesn't has balls to perform infront of Tejas.

Poor Indian kid doesn't know what to talk
Can i quotes which tech your mighty/Vedic tej@$$ used how many foreign tech in it we have not big aerospace industries as compare to you have we have different philosophy/approach to develop and build our jet (jf17) than India
And do you know what is the meaning of JF???,
And in how many big/ Air shows did you presented your mighty/Vedic Tej@$$ like Paris/Farnborough/ IDEX/Zuhai???
You only presented your mighty/Vedic Tej@$$ in Bahrain/Qatar Air shows which are small/useless Air shows than those that i refer to we sell it for 2 countries and your mighty/Vedic Tej@$$ ???
This Chinese junk bombed out your regional HQ in Kashmir last year in your @$$ (In real war like situation)
And last every fighter jets has a tradeoffs or advantages/disadvantages because of it design and your mighty/Vedic out of this universe 1000000 gen ahead from rest of the world fighter jets Tej@$$ is no exception

 

[Chandrguptaa]

Poor Indian kid doesn't know what to talk
Can i quotes which tech your mighty/Vedic tej@$$ used how many foreign tech in it we have not big aerospace industries as compare to you have we have different philosophy/approach to develop and build our jet (jf17) than India
And do you know what is the meaning of JF???,
And in how many big/ Air shows did you presented your mighty/Vedic Tej@$$ like Paris/Farnborough/ IDEX/Zuhai???
You only presented your mighty/Vedic Tej@$$ in Bahrain/Qatar Air shows which are small/useless Air shows than those that i refer to we sell it for 2 countries and your mighty/Vedic Tej@$$ ???
This Chinese junk bombed out your regional HQ in Kashmir last year in your @$$ (In real war like situation)
And last every fighter jets has a tradeoffs or advantages/disadvantages because of it design and your mighty/Vedic out of this universe 1000000 gen ahead from rest of the world fighter jets Tej@$$ is no exception

Lol, A country which can't build a turbocharged 125cc bike Engine is talking about building a fighter jet.
Why don't you ask your airforce, why they send IL-78 to chengdu airport China every month?
Why ur airforce want 20 year oldi RD-93MA(which India rejected for MIG-29 upgrade due to low service life)
instead of blood brother's own super successful WS-13?
Your airforce is buying JF-17 not because it's something extraordinary.
They are buying it because no other country will sell fighter planes to Pakistan.
Here is photo, How they build JF-17 airframe in Pakistan.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1268916172680040450

 

[thinkingcap81]

I already provided the reason - it’s diplomatic messaging. Its possible that all the IAF is doing is letting videos out for media(and Chinese) consumption and operating the systems on its newer assets in limited mode(similar to what Nations do in joint exercises ) to avoid snooping.

The UPG has a Zhuk radar made by Phazotron versus the Bars made by its competitors and used in the Su-30MK series.

Diplomatic messaging is fine, all countries do it in various forms. For diplomatic messaging and local consumption with the use of fighter aircraft with limited functionalities on, IAF can use the MKIs. After all, we have been told that the MKIs successfully dodged multiple AIM 120C5s. Why expose the UPGs?

I know that the UPG has a Zhuk radar and the MKI uses a BARS radar. But without knowing the details and tactics, i do not feel that i can say much about the capabilities of the two. Hence i refrain from commenting on the aircraft and seek the opinions of more knowledgeable people.

 

[Crystal-Clear]

pffffffffffff

 

[POPEYE-Sailor]

Yep Derby Mark 1
But moving to Derby ER with the Mark1a & the indian Astra BVR mark 1

I have always said with the mostly western technology ie Usa /israeli cockpit and engines and world class quadruplex FBW syte for flight control Tejas will be a very useful combat plane in the 3rd tier behind Su30mki and rafale.

Bro you are giving ur personal view it will be or it will, but currently IAF has 17 in active stage and 23 on order.
If this aircraft has some thing magnificent then it would be 100+ inventory in IAF. while jf-17 is achieving milestone in its progress and as a war machine.
UHD pictures looks great but some time its beyond the reality.

 

[Ultima Thule]

Lol, A country which can't build a turbocharged 125cc bike Engine is talking about building a fighter jet.
Why don't you ask your airforce, why they send IL-78 to chengdu airport China every month?
Why ur airforce want 20 year oldi RD-93MA(which India rejected for MIG-29 upgrade due to low service life)
instead of blood brother's own super successful WS-13?
Your airforce is buying JF-17 not because it's something extraordinary.
They are buying it because no other country will sell fighter planes to Pakistan.
Here is photo, How they build JF-17 airframe in Pakistan.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1268916172680040450

Ahh get of PAF don't need to build 125cc engine PAF engineers and scientists did involved in R&D phase of jf17 project as fo

Lol, A country. which can't build a turbocharged 125cc bike Engine is talking about building a fighter jet.
Why don't you ask your airforce, why they send IL-78 to chengdu airport China every month?
Why ur airforce want 20 year oldi RD-93MA(which India rejected for MIG-29 upgrade due to low service life)
instead of blood brother's own super successful WS-13?
Your airforce is buying JF-17 not because it's something extraordinary.
They are buying it because no other country will sell fighter planes to Pakistan.
Here is photo, How they build JF-17 airframe in Pakistan.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1268916172680040450

We don't claim any thing extraordinary but you claims for your out of this universe tej@$$ and PAF don't need to develop 125cc bike engine and we are in the partnership with China to produce jf17 58% our responsibility and rest of 42% is Chinese responsibility go to PAC website you know that
We specifically buys CNC and other sensitive manufacturing machines from China to produce/manufacture jf17 at home

 

[SQ8]

Diplomatic messaging is fine, all countries do it in various forms. For diplomatic messaging and local consumption with the use of fighter aircraft with limited functionalities on, IAF can use the MKIs. After all, we have been told that the MKIs successfully dodged multiple AIM 120C5s. Why expose the UPGs?

I know that the UPG has a Zhuk radar and the MKI uses a BARS radar. But without knowing the details and tactics, i do not feel that i can say much about the capabilities of the two. Hence i refrain from commenting on the aircraft and seek the opinions of more knowledgeable people.

Since we’re going to agree to disagree on the bold - I would just look to examples where similar equipment is operated such as Turkey and Greece. Granted, the tactics may differ but knowing the limitations of the equipment onboard does give a big advantage; leaving pilot skill a big decider.

 

[Ultima Thule]

After all, we have been told that the MKIs successfully dodged multiple AIM 120C5s. Why expose the UPGs?

Your MKI is only for dodge BVR (AMRAAM C5) not for killing/destroying your enemy in your AirSpace wow what a retard/childish logic gives by IAF,poor Indians brainwashed by IAF

 

[Chandrguptaa]

Ahh get of PAF don't need to build 125cc engine PAF engineers and scientists did involved in R&D phase of jf17 project as fo

We don't claim any thing extraordinary but you claims for your out of this universe tej@$$ and PAF don't need to develop 125cc bike engine and we are in the partnership with China to produce jf17 58% our responsibility and rest of 42% is Chinese responsibility go to PAC website you know that
We specifically buys CNC and other sensitive manufacturing machines from China to produce/manufacture jf17 at home

LOL Again you guys are Talking about CNC after Propulsion system.
CNC isn't some magical Device which only PAC owns, India have 10000s Engg colleges & every engg college owns certain type of CNC.
I'm a PLM expert & was trained at Indo Danish Tool Room Jamshedpur, Which trains students & builts part for MNCs & PSUs especially BDL & ISRO.
Go & just Check their website first.
They own more CNC, VNC, WDM & Laserjet machines than your great PAC.
And their Budget is also more than the budget of PAC.
Screwdrivering is neither called Engineering nor work sharing.
Work-sharing is when you have worked on some tech of that Product.
JF-17 posses Russian Engine, No FBW, Chinese Airframe, radar, Landing assembly, Air brakes, Canopy & everything.
Then what PAC did in 58% work share.
Do you guys know that Pakistan doesn't even make Automobile level steel.
Aircraft level Aluminum or Alloy is tech of different planet for Pakistani metallurgical Scientists.
India have a dedicated class A PSU "MIDHANI" just for metallurgical research & development of new alloys.
Do you guys have competitors of Midhani level?
Even China doesn't have Metallurgical research of that level.
They are just good at stealing projects of Caltech & Harvard.

 

[Ultima Thule]

LOL Again you guys are Talking about CNC after Propulsion system.
CNC isn't some magical Device which only PAC owns, India have 10000s Engg colleges & every engg college owns certain type of CNC.
I'm a PLM expert & was trained at Indo Danish Tool Room Jamshedpur, Which trains students & builts part for MNCs & PSUs especially BDL & ISRO.
Go & just Check their website first.
They own more CNC, VNC, WDM & Laserjet machines than your great PAC.
And their Budget is also more than the budget of PAC.

Ok Mr troll and i am talking machines not device that's shows you how much educated person you're its aircraft parts manufacturing machines, it can be at HAL and in other aerospace research Institute but in engineering colleges LOL may be some Indian universities have them but engineering colleges have no chances to have them