Guardians of Peace: China's PLA to conduct live-ammunition drill in South China Sea

[xunzi]

We are just preparing to defend ourselves from pirate of SCS.

 

[cirr]

This sort of exercise should be conducted once every month or two。

We are only beginning to do what the US and its so-called allies（slaves in truth）have been doing for decades。

 

[Aepsilons]

Love doesn't have to make sense! I mean, how can you stay mad at her? Even if she were to punch you in the face with her steel fists of Type 99 MBTs???

Buddy, for a moment there I thought you typed "heels" , LOL. Oh man, oh man. Where is my thinking today?

 

[Rechoice]

Thanks to China, VN can go on fighting during the Vietnam War. If it wasn't for us the Americans would have an easy time defeating these Vietcongs. Lets not forget how Japan defeated VN in WW2, you should feel proud of this victory over them

For chinese working people,not to Mao and Deng, Chinese leadership has ran arounde Uncle Sam like idiot dog from 1968 in back of us to 1970/1980s.

In WW II, Japan invaded in to Vietnam without resistance from France Colonial army, France had shaken hands with Japan to control Vietnam until 1945.

Vietnam regained Independence in 1945 by itself under leading of Ho Chi Minh.

 

[21stCentury]

A knife ? No. China is a voluptuous femme fatal that Japan just can't have enough of. Japan is most likely holding a boquet of roses on this voluptuous Chinese vixen. Booty and all.

Its a 'love and hate' relationship, to put it to words. Japan is addicted to China, lol.

Does that make sense?

Lol I laughed hard at this post. Coming from Japan; geisha, conquered by the U.S. still obediently serving the U.S. I just find this post quite ironic! Nothing against you personally, but please check reality on the ground. Japan is the woman; the femme fatale if you will

 

[TaiShang]

Vietnam and the Philippines provide the perfect excuse for China to reinforce its capabilities in SCS.

 

[Rechoice]

Vietnam and the Philippines provide the perfect excuse for China to reinforce its capabilities in SCS.

Greedy Chinese invaded in to our Islands from 1956, 1974...step by step. sea pirate is hungry like dog.

 

[dy1022]

Vietnam and the Philippines provide the perfect excuse for China to reinforce its capabilities in SCS.

And Japan provide the perfect excuse For China to reinforce its capabilities in ECS.

 

[Viet]

Viet, TaiShang's point is that in a tyranny words mean whatever authority says they mean; there is no meaning independent of political authority. Why do the Chinese communists refer to their sea grabbing as guardianship? Because they can. That's the joke.

Bro, I have noticed the new chinese humour.

 

[IsaacNewton]

I don't usually reply to these threads because it is usually a CN vs VN troll fest.

What I want is more pics of the exercise.

 

[PLANZubr]

I don't usually reply to these threads because it is usually a CN vs VN troll fest.

What I want is more pics of the exercise.

China Conducts Live-Fire Drills in Disputed Sea | Washington Free Beacon
War games follow Kerry call to end island building

BY: Bill Gertz Follow @BillGertz
August 12, 2015 5:00 am

China’s military launched live-fire naval warfare exercises in the disputed South China Sea on Tuesday, further raising tensions among states in the region.

The war games were announced by the Chinese maritime security agency and included a warning for all ships to keep out of three areas near Hainan Island, according to the official PLA Daily military newspaper.

The live-fire drills come days after the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) criticized China for militarizing new, artificially created islands in the sea. The association stated in a final communiqué issued last week that China’s island building has “increased tensions” in the region.

The statement reflected pressure from Vietnam and Philippines on ASEAN to take a strong stand against Chinese maritime encroachment.

Secretary of State John Kerry in Malaysia on Thursday voiced “serious concerns” over China’s “massive” land reclamation and militarization in the sea. On Monday in Vietnam, Kerry said he discussed security cooperation with the communist government on maritime issues.

“I reiterated America’s strong support of freedom of navigation, overflight, and other lawful uses of the sea,” Kerry said in Malaysia. “These rights, I would remind everybody, are universal rights and they must be respected by every nation, large and small.”

China’s Foreign Ministry criticized Kerry’s remarks three days later, telling Reuters that freedom of navigation and overflight rights does not permit foreign warships and military jets to violate other states’ sovereignty and security.

Officials from the U.S. and Chinese militaries have been engaged in talks over the past several months aimed at establishing rules guiding Chinese aerial encounters with U.S. monitoring aircraft.

According to defense sources, the talks have been stalled by Chinese military demands that all U.S. surveillance flights be halted.

The Pentagon has rejected the requests and insists the surveillance flights are legal under international law and are being carried out in international airspace far from Chinese territorial airspace.

The two sides are hoping to reach a formal agreement in time for the September summit meeting in Washington between President Obama and Chinese leader Xi Jinping.

A year ago, a Chinese jet conducted a dangerous aerial intercept of a U.S. P-8 maritime surveillance aircraft near Hainan Island, flying within 50 feet of the U.S. aircraft and conducting a barrel roll over the top. The Pentagon called the encounter dangerous and reckless.

An agreement on maritime encounter rules was reached in November.

A Chinese warship nearly collided with the guided-missile frigate USS Cowpens in December 2013 as the U.S. ship was shadowing a Chinese aircraft carrier. The Pentagon protested the unsafe Chinese action.

June Teufel Dreyer, a China affairs expert, said the exercises appear to be part of a PLA effort to warn other South China Sea claimants and their U.S., Japanese, and Australian backers.

“Beijing seems indifferent to whether any tensions will be raised, since apart from some mild diplo-speak tut-tutting, there will be no consequences,” said Dreyer, a professor at the University of Miami.

Rick Fisher, a China military affairs expert, said the live fire exercises are the latest in a series of PLA exercises near Hainan Island.

“They have been large multi-service exercises, including the Second Artillery missile force,” said Fisher, with the International Assessment and Strategy Center.

“In this instance the PLA is being used to show how China will extend its control into the South China Sea to deter U.S. or regional action against its recent island building.”

Former State Department China specialist John Tkacik said the announcement of live-fire drills “is designed to get the ASEAN states and the U.S. accustomed to China’s ‘legitimate right’ to hold such military demonstrations in ‘Chinese Waters.’”

“Washington should start gaming their future responses as the PLA gradually inches these drills farther and farther into disputed waters,” Tkacik said. “U.S. will need to coordinate with the Philippines and Taiwan as future PLA live fire drills begin to take place beyond China’s internationally-recognized maritime spaces.”

A State Department spokesman referred questions to the Pentagon; spokesmen there had no immediate comment.

The South China Sea exercises also are taking place at a time of increased Chinese military training in other regions.

The People’s Liberation Army (PLA) also launched large-scale ground forces exercises near Nanjing, a city north of Shanghai, and in the Yellow Sea in Northeastern China.

The Nanjing war games are part of the PLA’s “Joint Action 2015” exercises that have been part of what U.S. intelligence agencies have said are efforts to increase joint warfighting skills.

A statement from the Nanjing Military Command said Chinese Army, Navy, Air Force, and Missile Forces would take part in those war games.

The exercises include “long-distance delivery, joint intelligence reconnaissance and joint computer-coordinated bombardments,” the state-run news agency Xinhua reported.

“Joint Action-2015B is one of the five similar drills involving more than 140,000 troops from over 140 PLA regiments of various types,” the agency said.

Other war games are taking place in the Chengdu Military region in southwestern Sichuan providence.

In the South China Sea, one of the areas set aside for the live-fire drills is a 100-square mile zone in international waters surrounding an uninhabited island named Beishi. Analysts say that exercise appears to be a military practice run for taking disputed South China Sea Islands.

China has raised tensions in the region by claiming most of the Sea to be under its control in an area bounded by a vaguely defined “Nine-Dash Line.”

It has challenged claims by the Philippines to the Spratlys Islands in the southern part of the sea, and claims by Vietnam to the Paracel Islands, in the northeastern part.

Two other designated live-fire zones are located within the 12-mile territorial limit of Hainan Island.

The disputed sea is a major shipping route, with an estimated $5 trillion worth of goods passing through its waters each year.

In May, China also warned a P-8 flying near disputed islands to leave the area, even though the jet was flying in international airspace.

China has built up some 2,000 acres of islands by pumping sand from the sea floor, according to congressional testimony from U.S. officials.

The Chinese are now moving military forces and equipment to the islands

 

[TheTheoryOfMilitaryLogistics]

The Treaty was only signed "in accordance with" the Peoples' Congress under the attached understandings: that without regard to the rest of the Treaty the areas under Chinese sovereignty are denoted in Chinese law (the murky "nine-dash line"), that contested islands within the 200-mile economic zone are defined as Chinese (regardless of their history or claims of other countries and contravening other provisions of the treaty), and that - uniquely - passage of foreign warships through the "territorial sea" must have the approval of China (while the passage of Chinese warships through Philippine, Singaporean, Japanese, and Indonesian 200-mile waters does not need the approval of their respective countries.)

When it became clear this letter meant modifying China's economic zone to include all the trappings of national sovereignty - that China regarded the treaty as nothing less than a sea grab to China's exclusive benefit - China added the last proviso rejecting all international mechanisms for resolving disagreements with China - only bilateral arrangements are acceptable, with China as the bully in the room, its diplomats forbidden by Chinese law to even acknowledge that sovereignty claims by other countries could be valid.

First of all,I think that it's necessary to remind you the something when you are here talking about the Law of the Sea.That is Uncle Sam haven't ratified this Law of the Sea yet.I think you must be cautious to make some conclusion.

The Treaty was only signed "in accordance with" the Peoples' Congress

I actually was confused by you that your misunderstanding is on purpose or not.The original sentence is below:

In accordance with the decision of the Standing Committee of the Eighth National People's Congress of the People's Republic of China at its nineteenth session, the President of the People's Republic of China has hereby ratified the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea of 10 December 1982

What's your meaning of "only signed"?Can't you understand this sentence?

that without regard to the rest of the Treaty the areas under Chinese sovereignty are denoted in Chinese law (the murky "nine-dash line"), that contested islands within the 200-mile economic zone are defined as Chinese (regardless of their history or claims of other countries and contravening other provisions of the treaty),

My explanation is this:

1. In accordance with the provisions of the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea, the People's Republic of China shall enjoy sovereign rights and jurisdiction over an exclusive economic zone of 200 nautical miles and the continental shelf.

and that - uniquely - passage of foreign warships through the "territorial sea" must have the approval of China (while the passage of Chinese warships through Philippine, Singaporean, Japanese, and Indonesian 200-mile waters does not need the approval of their respective countries.)

I have to repeat it again.Do you understand the original?

4. The People's Republic of China reaffirms that the provisions of the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea concerning innocent passage through the territorial sea shall not prejudice the right of a coastal State to request, in accordance with its laws and regulations, a foreign State to obtain advance approval from or give prior notification to the coastal State for the passage of its warships through the territorial sea of the coastal State.

Do you know the meaning of "reaffirm"? China approve this "Shall not prejudice" provision.How dare you say these:

(while the passage of Chinese warships through Philippine, Singaporean, Japanese, and Indonesian 200-mile waters does not need the approval of their respective countries.)

Do you have enough facts to support your words?

When it became clear this letter meant

Actually,you doesn't make me clear,you make me confused.Your conclusion is quite bias.

China added the last proviso

China ratified the Law of the Sea with 4 added statement,but US even don't want to ratified it.Especially to you,yanks,I think you must be cautious to say this:

with China as the bully in the room

Vietnam and Philipines were both backward region in ancient time.And they were both colony during the WW2.
Neither history nor the result of WW2.
Especially Philipines,without any legality.

 

[Zero_wing]

Wow this new tool forgot that Philippines have civilization already in fact most filipino kingdoms, Rajanates and sultanates maritime powers why well maybe because the archipelago now known as the Philippines are all separated by huge numbers of water this fool lack understanding of history typical chinese banter

 

[21stCentury]

Wow this new tool forgot that Philippines have civilization already in fact most filipino kingdoms, Rajanates and sultanates maritime powers why well maybe because the archipelago now known as the Philippines are all separated by huge numbers of water this fool lack understanding of history typical chinese banter

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[Zero_wing]

Wow that hurt putting old mr sulu oh wait sulu as for the sulu sea philippines too bad his name is not mr nansha hahahaha