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Growth rate slumps to lowest in 9 years

This thread is not about India or modi but still since you asked, India just crossed 3 Trillion $ in size. GDP doubled in 5 years under Modi and institutions strengthened.

hahaha, 1.4 b population. Quote me / capita and that too with 71 years of democracy. I mean why are we being picky here? Tell me how many years Pakistan has been democratically governed? Tell me the GDP/ capita and also the GDP / capita of india in the same line.

3 trillion$ lewl, why do people forget that you have 1.4 b population too, when it come to / capita you are ALMOST as SHITTY as we are.

Is it safe to say that your optimism is based on HOPE and FAITH and not actual evidence or competence ?

Well, 1 year is not enough to change the country into a paradise. Time is required and people have already decided to give him time and Chance. Why would Indians elect modi again? when there have been increment in mob lynchings when there have more deaths in Kashmir during modis era. Farmers keep on suiciding in India and there grievances are not heard. Tell me why did 300,000 farmers commit suicide in India in last 20 years. IT was democratically governed no?

A 3.3 % growth in PPP with a devaluing currency and a 9% inflation IS a bad thing.


I hate to repeat myself but tell me the inflation rate in 2013, and 2009. If you can't do that, then don't bother to comment.

I am not amazed at a ____ like you who thinks inflation rate is a static stat and it won't change no matter what.

durp durp bla bla, I am an Indian and I am going to keep on quoting PMLN's 2017-2018 inflation rate and compare it with PTI's 2018-2019 era. As I said before quote me PMLN's and PPP's 2013 and 2009 inflation rate stat, when THEY GOT ELECTED. to be fair. If that doesn't go through your thick skull then I am sorry I won't be able to reply you again.
 
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hahaha, 1.4 b population. Quote me / capita and that too with 71 years of democracy. I mean why are we being picky here? Tell me how many years Pakistan has been democratically governed? Tell me the GDP/ capita and also the GDP / capita of india in the same line.

3 trillion$ lewl, why do people forget that you have 1.4 b population too, when it come to / capita you are ALMOST as SHITTY as we are.

Because you started comparing, here are the facts,

This is India with updated data till March 2019. Per Capita = 2,198.6 $

ipc_india_forecast-nominal-gdp-per-capita

https://www.ceicdata.com/datapage/c...pe=area&from=2013-03-01&to=2019-05-01&lang=en

THIS is pakistan, per Capita = 1,357.9 $

ipc_pakistan_forecast-nominal-gdp-per-capita


https://www.ceicdata.com/datapage/c...pe=area&from=2008-06-01&to=2019-06-01&lang=en


Well, 1 year is not enough to change the country into a paradise. Time is required and people have already decided to give him time and Chance. Why would Indians elect modi again? when there have been increment in mob lynchings when there have more deaths in Kashmir during modis era. Farmers keep on suiciding in India and there grievances are not heard. Tell me why did 300,000 farmers commit suicide in India in last 20 years. IT was democratically governed no?

Modi has reduced farmer suicide considerably. It now happens only in CONgress ruled states.

No evidence of any increase in mob lynching either. Terrorists related death of civilians in kashmir has actually decreased and there has been no bomb blasts in any major Indian city under Modi.

How is any of this related to "democracy" ?

I hate to repeat myself but tell me the inflation rate in 2013, and 2009. If you can't do that, then don't bother to comment.

I am not amazed at a ____ like you who thinks inflation rate is a static stat and it won't change no matter what.

durp durp bla bla, I am an Indian and I am going to keep on quoting PMLN's 2017-2018 inflation rate and compare it with PTI's 2018-2019 era. As I said before quote me PMLN's and PPP's 2013 and 2009 inflation rate stat, when THEY GOT ELECTED. to be fair. If that doesn't go through your thick skull then I am sorry I won't be able to reply you again.

Rather than talk about the past, shouldn't you be worried about your present or your future ?

What has me being an Indian got anything to do with pakistani economy and its report card ?
 
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https://tribune.com.pk/story/1969690/2-growth-rate-slumps-lowest-9-years/

THE EXPRESS TRIBUNE

Growth rate slumps to lowest in 9 years
By Shahbaz Rana
Published: May 10, 2019

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First year of Prime Minister Imran Khan's government missed its targets set for all major sectors of the economy.

ISLAMABAD: The country’s economic growth rate has slowed down to 3.3% — the lowest in nine years — in the first year of Prime Minister Imran Khan’s government, which missed its targets set for all major sectors of the economy.

Provisional official results show that gross domestic product (GDP) growth rate for fiscal year 2018-19 was almost half of the annual target of 6.2% because of negligible growth in the agricultural and industrial sectors.

The slow pace of economic growth coupled with currency devaluation has caused the size of the economy — in the US dollar terms — to slip to around $280 billion from $313 billion at the end of the Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) government’s term.

GDP — the monetary value of all goods and services produced in a year — is projected to have grown at a rate of 3.29% during fiscal year 2018-19 ending on June 30, according to the National Accounts Committee (NAC).

The growth has come largely from the services sector, which is less job-intensive. It contributed 87% to the total national output for the outgoing fiscal year.

Further rupee fall, interest rate hike expected

The NAC also revised the economic growth rate upward for the last year of the PML-N government from 5.2% to 5.53%.

In February this year, the PTI government cut the GDP growth rate from 5.8% to 5.2% for the fiscal year 2017-18 claiming that the PML-N government overstated the growth rate. But now, its claim has proven wrong.

Planning Secretary Zafar Hasan chaired the 101th meeting of the NAC that endorsed the provisional economic growth rate figure on the basis of data received from the federal and provincial governments.

The figure is provisional and subject to variations once the final results are available at the end of the fiscal year.

The 3.29% growth rate is the lowest in nine years. In 2010-11, the economy had grown at a rate of 3.6%. The 3.3% economic growth rate depicts the challenges that the PTI government faced in its first year in power. Almost every sector has witnessed negative growth. The provisional growth rate in the first year of the PTI is almost half the pace needed to absorb the youth bulge.

The government’s indecisiveness and inconsistent economic policies severely damaged the economy, leading to the unceremonious removal of former finance minister Asad Umar.

Challenge for Pakistan is to sustain growth levels: ADB

As Pakistan is set to enter an International Monetary Fund (IMF) programme, the prospects for higher economic growth in the next two years are also very low.

The 3.3% growth rate is largely in line with the projections of international financial institutions that had predicted a 2.9% to 3.9% GDP growth rate. The IMF had projected the lowest rate of 2.9%.

About 87% growth came from the services sector and its share in the total size of the economy has increased to 60%.

The agricultural sector contributed only 5% to the annual national output while its weight in the GDP remained at 19.27%.

The industrial sector’s contribution to the total GDP growth was only 9% and its weight in the size of the economy was 20.8%.

The government missed the growth targets set for the services, agricultural and industrial sectors with a wide margin. The sub-sectors of electricity generation, housing services, general government services and other private services relatively performed better.

The electricity generation and gas distribution was the only sector that outperformed and its growth stood at 40.5% against the 10% target set for the outgoing fiscal year.

Adviser to the Prime Minister on Finance Dr Abdul Hafeez Shaikh will formally announce a provisional growth rate of 3.3% on June 10 with the release of the Economic Survey of Pakistan 2018-19.

IMF puts country’s growth rate at 2.5%

Agriculture

After witnessing a 4% growth rate in the last fiscal year, the agricultural sector only grew 0.85% this time, as the government missed all its sub-sector targets except livestock.

The government had set a target of 3.8% growth in the agricultural sector for this fiscal year.

The production of major crops contracted by 4.4% and other crops also saw a negative growth of 6.6%. Cotton ginning grew at a pace of less than 2%, according to the NAC.

Livestock posted a 4% growth rate and the forestry sector grew by 6.5% but could not meet its target. The fishing sector grew by only 0.8% against the 1.8% target.

Cotton production declined 17.5%. The production of rice and sugarcane also fell by 3.3% and 19.4% respectively.

The output of wheat grew only 0.5% to slightly over 25 million metric tonnes.

The production of maize showed a growth of nearly 7%.

Industries

The government missed all its targets set for the industrial sector except for electricity generation and small-scale industries. Against a target of 7.6%, the output in the industrial sector stood at only 1.4%. The output of large-scale manufacturing contracted 0.3% while small-scale manufacturing grew to 8.2%.

The slaughtering sub-sector grew at a pace of 3.5%, electricity generation and distribution by 40.5% against the 10% target and mining and quarrying sub-sector registered a negative growth of 2% against the target of 3.6%. The construction sector also posted a negative growth of 7.5%.

Services

The services sector, which accounts for 60% of the size of the economy, grew by 4.7% against the target of 6.5%. Aided by heavy government borrowing and an increase in the money supply, the financial services sector and government services posted a decent growth.

The wholesale and retail trade posted 3.1% growth against the target of 7.8%. The transport, storage and communication sub-sector saw a 3.4% growth rate. The finance and insurance sector witnessed 5.1% growth against the target of 7.5%.

@BHarwana

Too Bad, Too Sad..... :(
 
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Bcz Imran Khan was Handsome, Good Looking, flamboyant, Cricketer, World cup winner, Womenizer, Alcohlic, Gambler....and... and....
Its human nature subconsciously selfish, we always believe any thing that is white, good looking , sweet talking...etc some thing we believe is higher in order. There is nothing alluring but its only we lack maturity in treating things as they are.

Take for example if we will show more sympathy for a well dressed person than a beggar who needs help, bargain with vegetable vendor for few rupees but pay top dollar for foreign goods...etc
 
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Because you started comparing, here are the facts,

haha, now I guess, I should tell you the data regarding India on GDP in IMF is estimations. I guess you don't read footnotes. Here is a better table. So to you PPP 8483 GDP/capita is far superior than 5839 GDP/capita, knowing that one country enjoyed 71 years of democracy and the other only had 31 years of democracy? To me both are approximately same, both being shiat. And also I am not even introducing wealth distribution into this whole picture, which makes India much worse, because all wealth is accumulated in hands of few. India has a worse wealth distribution compared to Pakistan. Should I quote Extreme poverty numbers of India?

How is any of this related to "democracy" ?

It's related to governance, a democratically elected government is accountable to its people. Dictatorships do whatever the f they want.

Rather than talk about the past, shouldn't you be worried about your present or your future ?

No no no , I am asking you for choosing the same criteria if you are trying to criticize IK. If you are talking about inflation rate in first year of IK's rule, you should be comparing it to 1st year of Zardari's and Nawaz rule. It's just simple logic. And why the f should I be worried? the government is honest and is willing to replace people if they find them incompetent or corrupt. They replaced FBR chairman and State bank governor.

What has me being an Indian got anything to do with pakistani economy and its report card ?

Because, you are not a Pakistani voter. You are not allowed to criticize IK on a Pakistani forum while you, yourself being an Indian, you can share the news sure, but criticism IK nopes. You should worry about yourself, that 15 billion$ spent on elections, modi's is going to get that out of your a55. You should worry about that or worry about making India great. Pakistan's economy shouldn't even be on your mind, because it doesn't concern you.

Modi has reduced farmer suicide considerably. It now happens only in CONgress ruled states.

Abhe kiss ko bewaqoof bana rahay ho? 2018 Indian elections really clarified that. Btw, lets wait for these election, and see if chokidar wins.
 
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haha, now I guess, I should tell you the data regarding India on GDP in IMF is estimations. I guess you don't read footnotes. Here is a better table. So to you PPP 8483 GDP/capita is far superior than 5839 GDP/capita, knowing that one country enjoyed 71 years of democracy and the other only had 31 years of democracy? To me both are approximately same, both being shiat. And also I am not even introducing wealth distribution into this whole picture, which makes India much worse, because all wealth is accumulated in hands of few. India has a worse wealth distribution compared to Pakistan. Should I quote Extreme poverty numbers of India?

No is NOT estimation.

This it what it says, " It records an increase from the last reported number of 2,198.590 USD in Mar 2019."

In Any case the Link you have provided also gives IDENTICAL data to what I have provided.

In which parallel universe is $ 8,483 the same as $ 5,839 ?

We both got independence in 1947. Same date, same time. You actually had 4 time the land resources per capital than India at that time.



It's related to governance, a democratically elected government is accountable to its people. Dictatorships do whatever the f they want.

That is a choice pakistan made.

No no no , I am asking you for choosing the same criteria if you are trying to criticize IK. If you are talking about inflation rate in first year of IK's rule, you should be comparing it to 1st year of Zardari's and Nawaz rule. It's just simple logic. And why the f should I be worried? the government is honest and is willing to replace people if they find them incompetent or corrupt. They replaced FBR chairman and State bank governor.

Why should I criticize ik ? I am just stating facts and pointing to the obvious conclusion.

I find it hard to believe that the pervious govt. too did not replace officials as and when needed. This is not something special ik has done.

Because, you are not a Pakistani voter. You are not allowed to criticize IK on a Pakistani forum while you, yourself being an Indian, you can share the news sure, but criticism IK nopes. You should worry about yourself, that 15 billion$ spent on elections, modi's is going to get that out of your a55. You should worry about that or worry about making India great. Pakistan's economy shouldn't even be on your mind, because it doesn't concern you.


You are confusing a report in pakistani press as my "opinion".

Why should I worry about the Billions being spent on Indian elections ? Those money are being spent in India, is it not ? It will only boost the economy. So how is that a problem ?


Abhe kiss ko bewaqoof bana rahay ho? 2018 Indian elections really clarified that. Btw, lets wait for these election, and see if chokidar wins.

How is that related to pakistani economy shrinking ?

If Modi becomes PM again, how does it matter to pakistan ?
 
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No is NOT estimation.

This it what it says, " It records an increase from the last reported number of 2,198.590 USD in Mar 2019."

In Any case the Link you have provided also gives IDENTICAL data to what I have provided.

The link I provided is from official IMF site and all the green stats in table are estimations. You can look it up yourself by browsing through the link.

n which parallel universe is $ 8,483 the same as $ 5,839 ?

Since you think its HUGE, i think approximately same. Sure it's noticeable but it's definitely not that superior.

We both got independence in 1947. Same date, same time. You actually had 4 time the land resources per capital than India at that time.


Land resources? what? we got f'ed we didn't get our share. You literally invaded the Princely states that wanted to be part of Pakistan, and then Kashmir issue originated from one of that debacle.
And also a better comparison would be China and India. after 1949 civil war China. 1.4 billion population equivalent to yours. Look at them and look at you.

That is a choice pakistan made.

i am not arguing about our choices, I am arguing why you are not leaps and bound ahead than us, like China. You are nothing when compared with China.

I am just stating facts and pointing to the obvious conclusion.

Why not move to Pakistan, so that we can hire you to summarize and conclude articles for us. Better make a site, concluding/summarizing all Pakistani articles for us. Btw, you can shove your conclusion up your's, your conclusion can be clearly seen as a criticism. And that's why it was pointed out.

I find it hard to believe that the pervious govt. too did not replace officials as and when needed. This is not something special ik has done.

So tell me where is Nawaz Shariff now?

You are confusing a report in pakistani press as my "opinion".

You can go through all of my comments. Never did I quoted anything from the article, what I quoted was your replies on this thread and they are definitely 'your opinion'. Only been responding to your opinions regarding article, not the article itself. So there is a difference, can you see?

Why should I worry about the Billions being spent on Indian elections ? Those money are being spent in India, is it not ? It will only boost the economy. So how is that a problem ?

hahahahahaha, wow that is seen as great investment for growth of economy. Please hold these costly elections every year. I mean aren't they boosting economy? Why not do semi-annually then.

How is that related to pakistani economy shrinking ?

If Modi becomes PM again, how does it matter to pakistan ?

I was responding to your 'farmers' comment. That farmers are only getting f'ed in Congress states, if so lets see if they elect him now. It has nothing to do with Pakistan economy, I clearly quoted the comment to which I replied.
 
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The link I provided is from official IMF site and all the green stats in table are estimations. You can look it up yourself by browsing through the link.

And the link I have provided clearly says that the numbers are the one's REPORTED till march 2019.

Since you think its HUGE, i think approximately same. Sure it's noticeable but it's definitely not that superior.

It is considerable if one considers the impact it can have on family, education and healthcare.

Also the average family size is smaller in India , which means more resources per child as compared to pakistan.

Land resources? what? we got f'ed we didn't get our share. You literally invaded the Princely states that wanted to be part of Pakistan, and then Kashmir issue originated from one of that debacle.
And also a better comparison would be China and India. after 1949 civil war China. 1.4 billion population equivalent to yours. Look at them and look at you.

Population density of pakistan was FAR less than the population density of India in 1947.

pakistan invaded Kashmir, the maharaja of kashir signed the instrument of accession with India and THEN India airlifted troops into kashmir. Anyway this is outside the scope of current topic.

Also in case you did not know, China has 3 times the land mass of India with the same population.

i am not arguing about our choices, I am arguing why you are not leaps and bound ahead than us, like China. You are nothing when compared with China.

We are nothing compared to the US too. Such comparison are meaningless.

You are the one who dragged in India for comparison. We have a shared history.

Why not move to Pakistan, so that we can hire you to summarize and conclude articles for us. Better make a site, concluding/summarizing all Pakistani articles for us. Btw, you can shove your conclusion up your's, your conclusion can be clearly seen as a criticism. And that's why it was pointed out.

so tell me where is Nawaz Shariff now?

How about THIS report from pakistan ?

https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/466422-8m-people-may-go-below-poverty-line-in-next-2-fiscals

8m people may go below poverty line in next 2 fiscals

ISLAMABAD: About 800,000 to one million people have got unemployed because of slow down in the economy, whereas four million people have gone down the poverty line so far and in next two fiscal years, about 8,000,000 people are feared to go down below poverty line.


Your people going below poverty line is INCREASING. Its Decreasing in the rest of the world.


You can go through all of my comments. Never did I quoted anything from the article, what I quoted was your replies on this thread and they are definitely 'your opinion'. Only been responding to your opinions regarding article, not the article itself. So there is a difference, can you see?

My opinion on ik failing to do his job is based on the article itself.

pakistani economy shrinking is not an Opinion, its a Fact.


hahahahahaha, wow that is seen as great investment for growth of economy. Please hold these costly elections every year. I mean aren't they boosting economy? Why not do semi-annually then.

Where do you think that money is being spent ?

On posters, on media, on bribing voters with cash, goods etc, on vehicles, on paying party members etc.

Most of them is Black money that is being circulated BACK into the Economy and turning white in the process.

In fact, sometimes Black money in swiss accounts are brought back into India to fund these elections.

I was responding to your 'farmers' comment. That farmers are only getting f'ed in Congress states, if so lets see if they elect him now. It has nothing to do with Pakistan economy, I clearly quoted the comment to which I replied.

Pretty sure they are going to vote BJP this time. Time will tell.
 
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My opinion on ik failing to do his job is based on the article itself.

As I said before, your opinion isn't appreciated because it seems more like a criticism. Article already tells everything, there wasn't any need of your conclusion/opinion/summary.

pakistani economy shrinking is not an Opinion, its a Fact

To you it might be a fact but in REAL world it isn't. Growth rate is lowering doesn't mean economy is shrinking, sure economy isn't growing at the previous growth rate but it is still growing none the less. So to put it 'economy is shrinking' is quite a retarded statement to make. I mean to you a country having a growth rate of 0.5%, 1% or 2 % means it's shrinking......

Where do you think that money is being spent ?

On posters, on media, on bribing voters with cash, goods etc, on vehicles, on paying party members etc.

Most of them is Black money that is being circulated BACK into the Economy and turning white in the process.

In fact, sometimes Black money in swiss accounts are brought back into India to fund these elections.

I am not arguing, I am just saying if it's such a healthy economic activity, why not do it more often? So your argument is people would spend their black money on elections. And when they get elected they will do what? I mean, how is a good strategy to spend black money and then get nothing in return, from a business pov?

Pretty sure they are going to vote BJP this time. Time will tell.

Is it safe to say that your optimism is based on HOPE and FAITH and not actual evidence ?
Ahem Ahem 2018 elections Ahem Ahem. Lewl, your quote not mine.
 
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As I said before, your opinion isn't appreciated because it seems more like a criticism. Article already tells everything, there wasn't any need of your conclusion/opinion/summary.

Isn't this a forum to exchange opinions ?

To you it might be a fact but in REAL world it isn't. Growth rate is lowering doesn't mean economy is shrinking, sure economy isn't growing at the previous growth rate but it is still growing none the less. So to put it 'economy is shrinking' is quite a retarded statement to make. I mean to you a country having a growth rate of 0.5%, 1% or 2 % means it's shrinking......

What it means is that activity has increased by 3.3% by the relative WORTH of that activity has gone down in the world.

Your ability to exchange those activity for goods and services from the world (like oil for e.g.) has reduced.

Basically you are doing more activity for less money. That is the definition of poverty / hardship.


I am not arguing, I am just saying if it's such a healthy economic activity, why not do it more often? So your argument is people would spend their black money on elections. And when they get elected they will do what? I mean, how is a good strategy to spend black money and then get nothing in return, from a business pov?

It is a healthy economy activity, but not a very productive or efficient economy activity. Also there are elections almost every month in India.

State election, panchayat election, municipality elections, and National elections. It never ends.

The current trend is that those spending Black money will end up loosing the election. Indian democracy has matured.

Is it safe to say that your optimism is based on HOPE and FAITH and not actual evidence ?
Ahem Ahem 2018 elections Ahem Ahem. Lewl, your quote not mine.

It was an educated guess based on the trends seen here and was in reply to your question.
 
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