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Groundbreaking Ceremony Of Khalifa Refinery Project To Be Held By End 2019 : Omar Ayub Khan

Sir I First Heard About This Refinery in 2006 And That It Was To Be Located In Gwadar and It Was A Second Hand Refinery From North America.It Was Later Relocated To Las Bela and The Decision For A New State of The Art Refinery Was Undetaken

It Was Not A Question Of Priority But That Of Overall Conditions(Global Financial Crisis,Political Intability and Law and Order Situation in Pakistan) That Delayed This

Speaking Of Delayed I Wonder if This Refinery Will Have A Delayed Coker Plant B'Coz If It Doesn't Then There Is Not Much Difference Between It And Those Ancient Hydroskimmers We Pass For Refineries

You are correct, understand plan was to dismantle a second-hand refinery that had been shut down because it cost too much to meet the new stringent US emission standards and re-install the same in Pakistan, similar to what Bosicor had done and also the plan of the now abandoned Alghurair group project.

I am not aware that it would have a delayed coker or not. If the new plans remain re-installation of old US refinery than it would definitely have a Fluidised Cat-Cracker. Most of the people I knew in Pakistan are now retired or dead and it is difficult to get inside info.

The reason quoted by Abu Dhabi was lack funds due to the low crude price.
 
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In 2007, UAE had signed an implementation agreement with Pakistan for establishing a $6 billion refinery at Khalifa Point in the Hub district of Balochistan. Under the deal, Abu Dhabi’s IPIC will set up refinery with a target capacity of refining 200,000 to 300,000 barrels per day (bpd) while IPIC holds a 74 percent stake, the stake of Pakistan-Arab Refinery Company (PARCO) is 26 percent in the project. KCR project was originally planned for Gwadar, but it was later moved to Hub.

PARCO is a joint venture between Government of Pakistan (60%) and Abu Dhabi Petroleum Investment (40%). It was incorporated in Pakistan in May 1974, as a public limited Company. Today, PARCO is considered the fulcrum in Pakistan’s strategic oil supply and logistics. It has emerged as the strategic fuel supplier to the country. It is actively involved in various facets of oil storage, transportation, refining and marketing of energy products.

Khalifa Coastal Refinery would double Pakistan’s refining capacity. Crude oil tankage for the refinery is estimated in the range of 500,000 and 600,000 tons. It would have single-point mooring (SPM) with subsea pipeline for crude unloading and product loading operations. The capacity of SPM is expected to handle about 1.5 million tons per month. Under the tax holiday regime, the refinery will get concession of repatriation of all income and capital gains outside Pakistan without any tax liability. It will remain exempted from workers participation fund (WPF) and workers welfare fund (WWF). The development charge of 0.5 percent has also been exempted for 20 years.
 
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Sir now that i see you here, can i bother you with a question?

The reported output of this refinery is at 250000 barrels per days. A few years back Pakistan's per day consumption of oil was around 300000 barrels per days. We have existing refiners as well and their output is around 400000 Bbl/d and about 250000 under construction already. So this do not adds up to a person like me. Are these producing more product than we consume? Do we export refined oil? i don't think so. What am i missing?

Refinery output is dependent upon its design and its crude feed. For example, and a 34 API crude refinery ( Arab Light or Iran Light) would roughly produce 18 to 20% Naptha ( 50% used for gasoline conversion) and about 35% middle distillates ( Kero +diesel) and 40-42% Furnace oil. Rest would be LPG & ref fuel + losses. After adding an FCCU ( Cat -Cracker), production of distillates + naphtha would go up by another 15 % of the feed. If you add a delayed coker, distillate yield would increase further and a hydrocracker would more than double Jet/Kero yield.

The product output would however not be tailored to meet exactly what is the demand and there would always be a surplus of some products and shortage of the others.

In answer to your question, while I am unable to work out a close approximation of the output of the Khalifa Point refinery without knowing its configuration and the crude feed, IMHO if run at full capacity, it should eliminate the need for product imports for a few years. Additionally, some light naphtha surplus would need to be exported.
 
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Refinery output is dependent upon its design and its crude feed. For example, and a 34 API crude refinery ( Arab Light or Iran Light) would roughly produce 18 to 20% Naptha ( 50% used for gasoline conversion) and about 35% middle distillates ( Kero +diesel) and 40-42% Furnace oil. Rest would be LPG & ref fuel + losses. After adding an FCCU ( Cat -Cracker), production of distillates + naphtha would go up by another 15 % of the feed. If you add a delayed coker, distillate yield would increase further and a hydrocracker would more than double Jet/Kero yield.

The product output would however not be tailored to meet exactly what is the demand and there would always be a surplus of some products and shortage of the others.

In answer to your question, while I am unable to work out a close approximation of the output of the Khalifa Point refinery without knowing its configuration and the crude feed, IMHO if run at full capacity, it should eliminate the need for product imports for a few years. Additionally, some light naphtha surplus would need to be exported.


Thank You Sir Your Posts Are Always An Education
 
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No Sir, it is not.

250K bpd Parco Coastal Refinery at Khalifa Point, Lasbela was first Okayed by GOP in 2007 as a joint venture between International Petroleum Investment Company of Abu Dhabi (74%) & Parco (26%). per my info, the initial project also included a Sea Port Jetty, a 250MW power plant and residential colony for the staff and was scheduled to be completed by 2012.

https://www.khaleejtimes.com/article/20071112/ARTICLE/311129984/1036

Despite the fact that GOP had granted a 20 year Tax Holiday. For one reason or another, the plan was put on hold by Abu Dhabi. In 2013 it was revived again, now after another 6 years the construction is finally supposed to begin. This goes to show the time lag between the approval of a project and its implementation! This means that refinery would probably be coming on stream about 15 years after the agreement was signed

The MOU with MBS is for a refinery at Gwadar; if the Khalifa Point Refinery' example is anything to go by; it would be at least 10 years from now before the construction actually begins.

The main reason for the long delay being that MOU’s/Agreements are meant for “Headline” grabbing purposes only. Since the funding comes from foreign countries which have different priorities; investments in Pakistan must wait until it is convenient for the donor gov’t to put up the money.

http://www.pakistaneconomist.com/2018/12/10/prime-khalifa-refinery-hoping-to-reap-benefits/
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Then I am wrong. But work on the Saudi refinary is too going on..
There is also talks of starting the old refinary by Abu Dhabi .
 
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No Sir, it is not.

250K bpd Parco Coastal Refinery at Khalifa Point, Lasbela was first Okayed by GOP in 2007 as a joint venture between International Petroleum Investment Company of Abu Dhabi (74%) & Parco (26%). per my info, the initial project also included a Sea Port Jetty, a 250MW power plant and residential colony for the staff and was scheduled to be completed by 2012.

https://www.khaleejtimes.com/article/20071112/ARTICLE/311129984/1036

Despite the fact that GOP had granted a 20 year Tax Holiday. For one reason or another, the plan was put on hold by Abu Dhabi. In 2013 it was revived again, now after another 6 years the construction is finally supposed to begin. This goes to show the time lag between the approval of a project and its implementation! This means that refinery would probably be coming on stream about 15 years after the agreement was signed

The MOU with MBS is for a refinery at Gwadar; if the Khalifa Point Refinery' example is anything to go by; it would be at least 10 years from now before the construction actually begins.

The main reason for the long delay being that MOU’s/Agreements are meant for “Headline” grabbing purposes only. Since the funding comes from foreign countries which have different priorities; investments in Pakistan must wait until it is convenient for the donor gov’t to put up the money.

http://www.pakistaneconomist.com/2018/12/10/prime-khalifa-refinery-hoping-to-reap-benefits/


Sir on the top of my head i can count at least half a dozen FDI Offers in refining sector.Back in the 1990s Iran offered a large deep conversion refinery at Port Qasim later Lasbela worth 120000 bpd ,Then there was a Swiss company Supaveri but these could not see the light of day as was the case with Badin refinery.

Also was the refinery that was to be set up by Schon group,then after the visit of Hazel O'leary a few American companies showed interest as well(e.g Sampak group).Then in the very late 90s a Saudi and Malaysian businessman Jointly offered a Petrochemical Complex(Gulf Pak Refinery) and unlike the other projects they were notasking for a fixed rate of return

Apart from this, offers of refinery plus cracker have been offered by multiple Saudi and Kuwaiti entities throughout the 2000s.It is unfortunate that we have been not been able to take advantage of these offers.

I read a while back interview of Hascol Mumtaz Hasan Khan.He said that unlike the upstream sector government has not been able to give the same level of incentives to downstream sector.He said that Pakistan need 1 to 2 more refineries but investors require the same guarantees that are given to IPPs(that is guaranteed offtake of products like guranteed purchase of power under PPAs).But now i think it will not be easy considering that furnace oil power plants are becoming athing of the past and the government is shifting to LNG.

You once said that your experience is in refining i thought that you might provide valuable insight in this regard
 
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Sir can u explain how it will save us money when we will be importing oil??


Pakistan Due To Lack of Refining Capacity Has To Import Products Like Furnace Oil and Diesel Which Naturally Cost More.Having Refinery Means We Will Only Have To Import Crude Oil
 
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Honorable Shah Khalid & Honorable Fahd Khan 2.

Refinery economics is extremely complex and includes many considerations. However, I have carried out feasibility studies of a few refineries in my time & I shall attempt to clarify the situation in the simplest possible way I can.

Under normal conditions, the total value of the refinery output is higher than the total crude import cost plus refining expenses because what a refinery does is to add value.

An example would be the textile mill. Just as a basic textile mill converts raw cotton that one buys in bales unto cotton yarn of various grades such as staple fiber yarn, ply yarn & filament yarn, which together fetch a higher value than the raw cotton input, a refinery converts crude oil into various usable products of higher value.

Complex textile mills also have fabric manufacturing, dying & calendaring facilities. Refineries also often have a Petro Chemical complex attached. For example, SATORP (Saudi Total Oil Refinery Project) uses Arab Heavy crude oil as feed as converts it into LPG, gasoline, Jet fuel, diesel, pet coke as well as benzene, xylene, propylene and a few more.

Nearly all the products except petroleum coke command higher value in the market. The profit is called the refinery margin. However, there are occasions where there are too many products chasing too few homes and thus the product prices drop and refineries start losing money (negative margin). If these conditions persist for any length of time, inefficient refineries are forced to close down.

A rule of thumb is that more the complex the refinery, greater the capital outlay but higher the profit margin. Simpler the refinery, lower the profit margin. At the present time, except for a few countries such as Pakistan, nearly all of the simply hydroskimming refineries like Attock Oil, Morgah & PRL, Karachi have been closed down.

One of the major problems for the Pakistan oil-refining industry is that it is located very close to the Arab Gulf which has a large number of the very complex state of the art refineries. Since the crude is produced within the country there is hardly any freight cost. This enables the refineries to generate petroleum products at a low cost. On the other hand, a refinery in Pakistan would have to import crude oil (more expensive than the Arab Gulf refinery feed) but also supply the products to the Pakistani market at import parity price otherwise the country would suffer a loss.

As the Pakistan market is not very large and refinery output does not match exactly what is required, part of the product has to be exported. Since the capital costs are huge, refinery projects are often not economically viable. The only alternative is to buy second-hand out- of- date refineries because these require only a fraction of the capital outlay of a new refinery and reinstall the same in Pakistan. But then refinery margins won't be good. This explains why Bosicor never ran at full capacity & is only running “On & Off” basis. Also why Alghurair refinery would probably never come stream.

Of course, if a sufficient quantity of crude oil had been discovered in Pakistan things would have been different.
 
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Honorable Shah Khalid & Honorable Fahd Khan 2.

Refinery economics is extremely complex and includes many considerations. However, I have carried out feasibility studies of a few refineries in my time & I shall attempt to clarify the situation in the simplest possible way I can.

Under normal conditions, the total value of the refinery output is higher than the total crude import cost plus refining expenses because what a refinery does is to add value.

An example would be the textile mill. Just as a basic textile mill converts raw cotton that one buys in bales unto cotton yarn of various grades such as staple fiber yarn, ply yarn & filament yarn, which together fetch a higher value than the raw cotton input, a refinery converts crude oil into various usable products of higher value.

Complex textile mills also have fabric manufacturing, dying & calendaring facilities. Refineries also often have a Petro Chemical complex attached. For example, SATORP (Saudi Total Oil Refinery Project) uses Arab Heavy crude oil as feed as converts it into LPG, gasoline, Jet fuel, diesel, pet coke as well as benzene, xylene, propylene and a few more.

Nearly all the products except petroleum coke command higher value in the market. The profit is called the refinery margin. However, there are occasions where there are too many products chasing too few homes and thus the product prices drop and refineries start losing money (negative margin). If these conditions persist for any length of time, inefficient refineries are forced to close down.

A rule of thumb is that more the complex the refinery, greater the capital outlay but higher the profit margin. Simpler the refinery, lower the profit margin. At the present time, except for a few countries such as Pakistan, nearly all of the simply hydroskimming refineries like Attock Oil, Morgah & PRL, Karachi have been closed down.

One of the major problems for the Pakistan oil-refining industry is that it is located very close to the Arab Gulf which has a large number of the very complex state of the art refineries. Since the crude is produced within the country there is hardly any freight cost. This enables the refineries to generate petroleum products at a low cost. On the other hand, a refinery in Pakistan would have to import crude oil (more expensive than the Arab Gulf refinery feed) but also supply the products to the Pakistani market at import parity price otherwise the country would suffer a loss.

As the Pakistan market is not very large and refinery output does not match exactly what is required, part of the product has to be exported. Since the capital costs are huge, refinery projects are often not economically viable. The only alternative is to buy second-hand out- of- date refineries because these require only a fraction of the capital outlay of a new refinery and reinstall the same in Pakistan. But then refinery margins won't be good. This explains why Bosicor never ran at full capacity & is only running “On & Off” basis. Also why Alghurair refinery would probably never come stream.

Of course, if a sufficient quantity of crude oil had been discovered in Pakistan things would have been different.



Sir from what i understand is that large scale refining is economically not feasible in Pakistan.Than why do Foreign investors especially Gulf and Middle Eastern investors(even Chinese) offer to invest in this sector from
time to time

Here are some links upon which i had based my previous post

https://www.thefreelibrary.com/Snags+in+increasing+the+oil+refining+capacity.-a019446424

https://www.thefreelibrary.com/Oil+Refining+in+Pakistan.-a063299470

https://www.thefreelibrary.com/Oil+refining-a010555456

https://fp.brecorder.com/2011/12/201112241264409/

https://fp.brecorder.com/2006/07/20060708448704/

https://www.dawn.com/news/197824

https://www.dawn.com/news/213190

https://www.dawn.com/news/244039/kuwait-to-invest-in-refinery-lpg-terminal-at-gwadar

Even Indians Came

https://www.dawn.com/news/352223


These do not include KCR and the multiple Chinese offers in this sector

What attracted these investors???Was it guaranteed returns and other generous incentives or some genuine market potential that they saw
 
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Good news, we need to cut down Oil Imports as it takes a huge amount of our import budget .
Bhai sab, it's just a refinery
You will have the advantage of getting refined products from crude oil this saving you some money

Imports won't be effected by and large

Sir now that i see you here, can i bother you with a question?

The reported output of this refinery is at 250000 barrels per days. A few years back Pakistan's per day consumption of oil was around 300000 barrels per days. We have existing refiners as well and their output is around 400000 Bbl/d and about 250000 undercontruction already. So this do not adds up to a person like me. Are these producing more product than we consume? Do we export refined oil? i don't think so. What am i missing?
Probably by the time the company is set up your national needs increase
That's why preplanned
 
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You are correct, understand plan was to dismantle a second-hand refinery that had been shut down because it cost too much to meet the new stringent US emission standards and re-install the same in Pakistan, similar to what Bosicor had done and also the plan of the now abandoned Alghurair group project.

I am not aware that it would have a delayed coker or not. If the new plans remain re-installation of old US refinery than it would definitely have a Fluidised Cat-Cracker. Most of the people I knew in Pakistan are now retired or dead and it is difficult to get inside info.

The reason quoted by Abu Dhabi was lack funds due to the low crude price.


Sir I Did Some Research And Now I Have Been Enlightened By A Few Things The Original KCR Was To Have Been Built In Gwadar By UAE.A Separate Refinery Was To Have Been Built in Khalifa Point And There Was To Be Competitive Bidding For It.Later On PARCO Chief Lobbied For Government To Award It To Him and He Got UAE Investor On Board So IPIC Decided To Relocate Their Project

https://www.dawn.com/news/217819
 
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Honorable Shah Khalid & Honorable Fahd Khan 2.

Refinery economics is extremely complex and includes many considerations. However, I have carried out feasibility studies of a few refineries in my time & I shall attempt to clarify the situation in the simplest possible way I can.

Under normal conditions, the total value of the refinery output is higher than the total crude import cost plus refining expenses because what a refinery does is to add value.

An example would be the textile mill. Just as a basic textile mill converts raw cotton that one buys in bales unto cotton yarn of various grades such as staple fiber yarn, ply yarn & filament yarn, which together fetch a higher value than the raw cotton input, a refinery converts crude oil into various usable products of higher value.

Complex textile mills also have fabric manufacturing, dying & calendaring facilities. Refineries also often have a Petro Chemical complex attached. For example, SATORP (Saudi Total Oil Refinery Project) uses Arab Heavy crude oil as feed as converts it into LPG, gasoline, Jet fuel, diesel, pet coke as well as benzene, xylene, propylene and a few more.

Nearly all the products except petroleum coke command higher value in the market. The profit is called the refinery margin. However, there are occasions where there are too many products chasing too few homes and thus the product prices drop and refineries start losing money (negative margin). If these conditions persist for any length of time, inefficient refineries are forced to close down.

A rule of thumb is that more the complex the refinery, greater the capital outlay but higher the profit margin. Simpler the refinery, lower the profit margin. At the present time, except for a few countries such as Pakistan, nearly all of the simply hydroskimming refineries like Attock Oil, Morgah & PRL, Karachi have been closed down.

One of the major problems for the Pakistan oil-refining industry is that it is located very close to the Arab Gulf which has a large number of the very complex state of the art refineries. Since the crude is produced within the country there is hardly any freight cost. This enables the refineries to generate petroleum products at a low cost. On the other hand, a refinery in Pakistan would have to import crude oil (more expensive than the Arab Gulf refinery feed) but also supply the products to the Pakistani market at import parity price otherwise the country would suffer a loss.

As the Pakistan market is not very large and refinery output does not match exactly what is required, part of the product has to be exported. Since the capital costs are huge, refinery projects are often not economically viable. The only alternative is to buy second-hand out- of- date refineries because these require only a fraction of the capital outlay of a new refinery and reinstall the same in Pakistan. But then refinery margins won't be good. This explains why Bosicor never ran at full capacity & is only running “On & Off” basis. Also why Alghurair refinery would probably never come stream.

Of course, if a sufficient quantity of crude oil had been discovered in Pakistan things would have been different.


Sir The Former Chairman SEC (Himself An Engineer) Has Proposed That Certain Parts For Refinery Projects Be Sourced Locally

https://www.dawn.com/news/639640/indigenising-oil-refinery-projects

Sir Wouldn't This Cut The Cost For The Investor If According To The Author 30% By Value Of A Refinery Is Sourced Locally
 
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Good news, we need to cut down Oil Imports as it takes a huge amount of our import budget .

This is an oil refinery not an oil field. It'll only increase our reliance on imported oil at a time when the rest of the planet is moving away from fossil fuel consumption because of climate change. KSA is an oil exporting country so this is in their best interest. It is not in our best interest because we are one of the biggest victims of climate change so its ironic that we should be helping accelerate this process!
 
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