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Greenpeace India's FCRA registration Suspended

Shooo.....

As expected....
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Sorry, I change my view from now on, instead of a respected member, I will remember you as another Mani shankar "Butthurt" Aiyyar..... or are you Mani himself :undecided:
 
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As expected....
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Sorry, I change my view from now on, instead of a respected member, I will remember you as another Mani shankar "Butthurt" Aiyyar..... or are you Mani himself :undecided:

I changed my post. I read your first line and through you were trolling :enjoy:
 
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I bet if their name was "SAFFRONpeace" Modi wouldn't have even touched them.

That's a good idea.

Why can't we Indians have a Saffronpeace environmental body posted in these certain specific developed nations to see, monitor and criticize their government and twist them?

Oh and we could also add cultural disgruntlement alongside environment and energy. As PM Modi said, saffron represents energy. And we all know who are the biggest gas and fossil fuel guzzlers in the world.

The UK Parliament had invited Greenpeace India to “testify” against the Indian government in a formal hearing, A UK-based television channel had also sought to internationalise related issues last year,”

these SOBs still believes that its pre 1947 british india or the india ruled by their congressi stooges ! @Guynextdoor2

You really want to rub it badly into the guy you mentioned, don't you? :D
 
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Where is the greenpeace when West is emitting pollution and doing damage to environment?

I agree they do help their cause in some cases. But they do major damage to the Govt. policies, they have already done many delays in nuclear power plants etc...etc..

These are tools of the west to project their power and show the Govts in bad light. Since India and China consists of large populations they will emit more when industrialized compared to west, so they start cashing on that by Carbon credit.

Americans and Europeans are big spenders, they waste food, waste oil, waste water and other resources. US is a country of 100 million consumes and wastes many products , there by doing more environmental damage. These agencies do not even question them and when it comes to countries like India they are ready to protest with the backing of western and other govts to put hurdles in the path of development.

The bottom line is these agencies are not under the control of GOI, they get their power and backing from external sources. Reason why GOI needs to be careful when dealing with them. After all Govts always try to work for the benefit of all people in the country based on constitution.


And the same NGOs called Green Peace are also attacking the west on Shale drilling. I don't think all NGOs are good but I don't think they are entirely evil either. Explain to me this- when Unilever was converting Ooty into a mercury dumping ground no government came to protect it. It was Greenpeace that took the initiative and saw it through.
You need to have a balance when you look at things. Corporations are not 'unmitigated good' and war against the likes of Monsanto are absolutely essential. WHo is going to fight the real issues then?
Modi knows only one thing 'any @$$hole that stands against me, I will screw him. There is a country and it's people at stake here.
 
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Where is the greenpeace when West is emitting pollution and doing damage to environment?

I agree they do help their cause in some cases. But they do major damage to the Govt. policies, they have already done many delays in nuclear power plants etc...etc..

These are tools of the west to project their power and show the Govts in bad light. Since India and China consists of large populations they will emit more when industrialized compared to west, so they start cashing on that by Carbon credit.

Americans and Europeans are big spenders, they waste food, waste oil, waste water and other resources. This country of 100 million consumes and wastes many products. These agencies do not even question them and when it comes to countries like India they are ready to protest with the backing is western and other govts to put hurdles in the path of development.

The bottom line is these agencies are not under the control of GOI, they get their power and backing from external sources. Reason why GOI needs to be careful when dealing with them. After all Govts always try to work for the benefit of all people in the country.

Technically you can't put this charge on greenpeace, they are an equal headache for all countries around the world and have been up against the west on pollution for decades too. They've been rather more violent in Japan and other countries (as shown in the video). My problem is not what you guys think of Greenpeace or NGOs. The blind belief that corporations and governments will 'do no bad' is incredibly silly. In fact their natural tendency is to pollute and screw around. You really need a check on them too. Removing the activist group, no matter how irritating they are, will result in catastrophic consequnces too (as indicated by the BP oil spill, ozone deplation etc. I think the threat of Global Warming is very real even for 'developing countries' like ours. It's not as fancy as it looks, it might end up giving severe consequences in our own lifetimes. So who's gonna advocate those things?



 
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The Hypocrisy of Greenpeace Illustrated

Greenpeace Loses Credibility In The Wake Of Huge Scandals

Why I Left Greenpeace... the story of Patrick Moore

The sad and dangerous truth about Greenpeace, and (I claim) the same applies to all of the Environmental Industry. They need to clean up their act! As jon_troll-del is fond of saying, they need to be "called out" about their myth of man-caused global warming. Please read the following letter. It offers a revealing look at the Environmental Industry from an "insider".
Peter

Why I Left Greenpeace
By PATRICK MOORE,
Noting particularly the scientifically nonsensical attacks on chlorine and PhthalatesIn 1971 an environmental and antiwar ethic was taking root in Canada, and I chose to participate. As I completed a Ph.D. in ecology, I combined my science background with the strong media skills of my colleagues. In keeping with our pacifist views, we started Greenpeace. But I later learned that the environmental movement is not always guided by science. As we celebrate Earth Day today, this is a good lesson to keep in mind.

At first, many of the causes we championed, such as opposition to nuclear testing and protection of whales, stemmed from our scientific knowledge of nuclear physics and marine biology. But after six years as one of five directors of Greenpeace International, I observed that none of my fellow directors had any formal science education.They were either political activists or environmental entrepreneurs.

Ultimately, a trend toward abandoning scientific objectivity in favor of political agendas forced me to leave Greenpeace in 1986.The breaking point was a Greenpeace decision to support a world-wide ban on chlorine. Science shows that adding chlorine to drinking water was the biggest advance in the history of public health, virtually eradicating water-borne diseases such as cholera. And the majority of our pharmaceuticals are based on chlorine chemistry. Simply put, chlorine is essential for our health.

My former colleagues ignored science and supported the ban, forcing my departure. Despite science concluding no known health risks - and ample benefits - from chlorine in drinking water, Greenpeace and other environmental groups have opposed its use for more than 20 years.

Opposition to the use of chemicals such as chlorine is part of a broader hostility to the use of industrial chemicals. Rachel Carson's 1962 book, "Silent Spring," had a significant impact on many pioneers of the green movement. The book raised concerns, many rooted in science, about the risks and negative environmental impact associated with the overuse of chemicals. But the initial healthy skepticism hardened into a mindset that treats virtually all industrial use of chemicals with suspicion.

Sadly, Greenpeace has evolved into an organization of extremism and politically motivated agendas. Its antichlorination campaign failed, only to be followed by a campaign against polyvinyl chloride.

Greenpeace now has a new target called phthalates (pronounced thal-ates). These are chemical compounds that make plastics flexible. They are found in everything from hospital equipment such as IV bags and tubes, to children's toys and shower curtains. They are among the most practical chemical compounds in existence. Phthalates are the new bogeyman. These chemicals make easy targets since they are hard to understand and difficult to pronounce. Commonly used phthalates, such as diisononyl phthalate (DINP), have been used in everyday products for decades with no evidence of human harm. DINP is the primary plasticizer used in toys. It has been tested by multiple government and independent evaluators, and found to be safe.

Despite this, a political campaign that rejects science is pressuring companies and the public to reject the use of DINP. Retailers such as Wal-Mart and Toys "R" Us are switching to phthalate-free products to avoid public pressure. It may be tempting to take this path of least resistance, but at what cost? None of the potential replacement chemicals have been tested and found safe to the degree that DINP has. The Consumer Product Safety Commission recently cautioned, "If DINP is to be replaced in children's products . . . the potential risks of substitutes must be considered. Weaker or more brittle plastics might break and result in a choking hazard. Other plasticizers might not be as well studied as DINP."The hysteria over DINP began in Europe and Israel, both of which instituted bans. Yet earlier this year, Israel realized the error of putting politics before science, and reinstated DINP. The European Union banned the use of phthalates in toys prior to completion of a comprehensive risk assessment on DINP. That assessment ultimately concluded that the use of DINP in infant toys poses no measurable risk.

The antiphthalate activists are running a campaign of fear to implement their political agenda. They have seen success in California, with a state ban on the use of phthalates in infant products, and are pushing for a national ban. This fear campaign merely distracts the public from real environmental threats. We all have a responsibility to be environmental stewards. But that stewardship requires that science, not political agendas, drive our public policy.
 
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Technically you can't put this charge on greenpeace, they are an equal headache for all countries around the world and have been up against the west on pollution for decades too. They've been rather more violent in Japan and other countries (as shown in the video). My problem is not what you guys think of Greenpeace or NGOs. The blind belief that corporations and governments will 'do no bad' is incredibly silly. In fact their natural tendency is to pollute and screw around. You really need a check on them too. Removing the activist group, no matter how irritating they are, will result in catastrophic consequnces too (as indicated by the BP oil spill, ozone deplation etc. I think the threat of Global Warming is very real even for 'developing countries' like ours. It's not as fancy as it looks, it might end up giving severe consequences in our own lifetimes. So who's gonna advocate those things?

Let me tell you one thing. The stats and figures regarding global warming are all dubious, they scares us and make us bend our policies.

The data related to environmental damage is not there for the past centuries upto 2000.

How can they arrive at conclusion in just one decade, that ozone layer is damaged so much and is threatening our planet?

The issue here is we are walking on a path of development, for that we need to implement some hard decisions with out which we cannot rise. So when Govt. has some good policy and plan to make the lives of people of this country better, we need to be carefully check the external factors which are blocking Govts decisions and deal with them carefully, which is what GOI is doing. I agree Govts do make mistakes, but one must believe in one power centre .i.e GOI.

I think you are in a notion that Banning Green Peace will end this episode, the episode do not end here. Western agencies will cite this decision and may force GOI to agree with carbon credit policy or else they may black mail in some other areas.

In my view GoI should have dealt with the green peace activities in a better way than banning them, There by giving a concrete reason for western media to rant and put pressure in GOI.
 
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Several tinpot dictators in Africa have also done the same things.


What fallony my dear brother? I know you hate modi like anything but lemme ask you this would you rather see the country go bonkers just so you can bark at modi or are you here to offer some constructive criticism. I know you'd bite the latter in reply but any sane person who has been around here for a while would see clear through the veil and know what agenda is it that you are pushing.


Do you not trust security agencies of this country?

IB report to PMO: Greenpeace is a threat to national economic security | The Indian Express

Is IB farce ?

Oh wait,, like your rant in TRAI thread modi must be using IB to push forward his 'agenda'

But but

Surprise buddy the whole thing started during your favorite UPA rule and i appreciate them for that. All that's happening now is its being taken into a logical conclusion.


IB probe into foreign funding of NGOs had begun during UPA rule - The Times of India


@Pulsar @SrNair @punit @Tridibans i hope ya'll agree with me in my assessment of this dimwit (@Guynextdoor2) Tell me if he doesn't fit for being called 'anti-national' then who does?
 
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Let me tell you one thing. The stats and figures regarding global warming are all dubious, they scares us and make us bend our policies.

The data related to environmental damage is not there for the past centuries upto 2000.

How can they arrive at conclusion in just one decade, that ozone layer is damaged so much and is threatening our planet?

The issue here is we are walking on a path of development, for that we need to implement some hard decisions with out which we cannot rise. So when Govt. has some good policy and plan to make the lives of people of this country better, we need to be carefully check the external factors which are blocking Govts decisions and deal with them carefully, which is what GOI is doing. I agree Govts do make mistakes, but one must believe in one power centre .i.e GOI.

I think you are in a notion that Banning Green Peace will end this episode, the episode do not end here. Western agencies will cite this decision and may force GOI to agree with carbon credit policy or else they may black mail in some other areas.

In my view GoI should have dealt with the green peace activities in a better way than banning them, There by giving a concrete reason for western media to rant and put pressure in GOI.

Actually I think Global Warming is really as serious as people say it is. I agree with your point that western countries should bear the brut and that they're responsible for this entire f**kup, but that's different from not identifying the problem. In any case that's not the core of the discussion here. My point is that driving down dissent is largely counter productive. There is also a very important role that activists and NGOs play.
 
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