Greek media: we're now dead, Turks have mastered Rafale secrets

[Attila the Hun]

But if he kept pushing the economy to the breaking point,the anti-AKP and anti-CHP masses could revolt. I could say "the Kemalists vs the Islamists",but that's not exactly correct. It's more like AKP followers vs everyone against it. Kemalists,communists,Republicans etc.

If you been to Turkey in 25-years and compared to now you'd understand there's never going to be some civil war over Erdogan lol

 

[Foinikas]

If you been to Turkey in 25-years and compared to now you'd understand there's never going to be some civil war over Erdogan lol

Why,there was a chance to happen before?

 

[Attila the Hun]

Why,there was a chance to happen before?

No you're right. Turks are all going to do civil war over a palace built

 

[Foinikas]

No you're right. Turks are all going to do civil war over a palace built

Nah it's not just one palace. It's the policies of that guy pushing the country to weird directions. While he and his friends make billions and the TL is going down.
"Here,let's build a base in Somalia,let's build a base in Niger,let's go to Afghanistan,we must dig a new canal,
let's make fun of the EU,the Americans,stab the Russians in the back when they're not looking,threaten them all,defy NATO and mock Israel!"

 

[Attila the Hun]

"Here,let's build a base in Somalia

Thats not enough to make some sort of civil war.

let's build a base in Niger,

Base in Niger means nothing to the average Turk.

let's go to Afghanistan

Not really spoken about among Turks. not something Turks would care either way.

we must dig a new canal,

are canals bad?

let's make fun of the EU

What is making fun of EU? And why would Turks care about that?

the American

No one in Turkey cares about if Erdogan talks badly of America

stab the Russians in the back

What is stabbing Russia in the back?

defy NATO

NATO can kick us out, most Turks would love that.

mock Israel!"

Yes, Erdogan mocking Israel might be the final straw though.. that would make 80 million Turks burn our streets lol

 

[Foinikas]

are canals bad?

Yeah maaaan,you can't just cut the Bosporus in pieces,like...come on! Ekremoglu's against it as well

What is making fun of EU? And why would Turks care about that?

He's been going around mocking European leaders and countries in public speeches. Calling them "nazis" or "fascists" or calling Macron names,being nasty towards the EU.
And the same with the Americans,it's not about what the average Turk cares about. Seriously,who in the Balkans cares about all of them in the West? But it's about being isolated diplomatically,economically etc.
You know,it's ...ruining ties and agreements because the government is having a wreckless policy.

What is stabbing Russia in the back?

Well,going against their interests in Syria,Libya,getting involved in Armenia (although Putin abandoned the Armenians just like that).Russians don't forget the Su-24 shoot down either. They might sign deals and be friends now,but they don't forget that. They're always cautious.

NATO can kick us out, most Turks would love that.

Funny thing is many Greeks would love that too,but the problem is what do you do the day after.
Looking for a new alliance? And I don't mean just you,I mean anyone who could be kicked and leaves in our area

Yes, Erdogan mocking Israel might be the final straw though.. that would make 80 million Turks burn our streets lol

No you don't understand,the whole previous post was not reasons the Turks will go to the streets against Erdogan. It's reasons that make Erdogan's Turkey more and more disliked and isolated diplomatically,leading to situations that might eventually cause the anti-AKP masses to reach a breaking point and react. You know what I mean? The overburdening of economy with all the involvment in foreign wars,bases,constant new projects and at the same time corruption at the top levels. That's what I mean.

 

[Attila the Hun]

Turkey more and more disliked and isolated diplomatically

EU = Last I checked Turkey is not in it.
NATO = Didn't they say they will not support Turkey if Russia attacks? seemed to be that kind of language at the time.

America = Not sure we ever had a great relationship with USA. They're more close with Saudi and Israel. No Turk goes "oh gee, why doesn't America love us Turks... oh yeah its because of Erdogan" .

Russia = Thought they don't like us for being NATO, no? What will they do? stop tourists coming over? stop importing tomatoes ??

Somalia =

Afghanistan = Did Turkey have some special relationship that I wasn't aware of?

Conclusion, being isolated is what we do best!

 

[Foinikas]

[QUOTE="Attila the Hun, post: 13292108, member: 178041
Conclusion, being isolated is what we do best!
[/QUOTE]
Yes but what if sanctions and a total embargo starts in the future,the way Erdogan's foreign policy goes?

 

[MMM-E]

[QUOTE="Attila the Hun, post: 13292108, member: 178041
Conclusion, being isolated is what we do best!

Yes but what if sanctions and a total embargo starts in the future,the way Erdogan's foreign policy goes?
[/QUOTE]


then what if millions of Syrian,İraqi,Afghani refugees flow into Europe ?

then what if another Turkish miliitary operation in Ayn Al Arab , Munbij , Tel Rifat against PKK/YPG ?

then what about Turkish Drilling Ships find gas/oil in the Eastern Mediterranean ?

then what about if more cooperation with Russia-China-İran-Pakistan ?



Turkish People will blame USA and The EU for sanctions, but not ERDOGAN

Erdogan's foreign policy protect Turkish People and Turkish national security/interests against Bandit Countries and their terrorists PKK/YPG , FETO , etc

 

[Foinikas]

Yes but what if sanctions and a total embargo starts in the future,the way Erdogan's foreign policy goes?

then what if millions of Syrian,İraqi,Afghani refugees flow into Europe ?

then what if another Turkish miliitary operation in Ayn Al Arab , Munbij , Tel Rifat against PKK/YPG ?

then what about Turkish Drilling Ships find gas/oil in the Eastern Mediterranean ?

then what about if more cooperation with Russia-China-İran-Pakistan ?



Turkish People will blame USA and The EU for sanctions, but not ERDOGAN

Erdogan's foreign policy protect Turkish People and Turkish national security/interests against Bandit Countries and their terrorists PKK/YPG , FETO , etc
[/QUOTE]
But that would lead to war. Diplomacy! If Turkey is isolated diplomatically it will end up like those third world dictatorships more or less. I'm not saying I care about it,I'm just trying to make you understand why Erdogan's policies are bad and distabilizing the entire area.

 

[MMM-E]

I'm just trying to make you understand why Erdogan's policies are bad and distabilizing the entire area.

So what ?

-- to allow USA-İsrael-France to create PKK/YPG terror State to destroy Syria's and Türkiye's territorial integrity ?

-- to allow USA-İsrael-France to use their puppets ( HAFTAR , THE UAE , KSA ) to make military coup in Libya to destroy maritime deal and good relationship between Turkiye and Libya ?

They did it in Egypt to find SISI to work with France,İsrael,Greece , instead of Turkiye


-- to allow USA-İsrael-France to steal oil/gas reserves and MAVI VATAN ( 150.000+ km2 ) from the Turks in the Eastern Mediterranean ?


I am saying again , Erdogan's foreign policy protect Turkish People and Turkish national security/interests against Bandit Countries and their terrorists PKK/YPG , FETO , etc


btw not Turkiye , but USA-France's policies are bad and distabilizing the entire area.

 

[Foinikas]

to allow USA-İsrael-France to steal oil/gas reserves and MAVI VATAN ( 150.000+ km2 ) from the Turks in the Eastern Mediterranean ?

Sure buddy,declare an area yours and say "Mavi Vatan" and suddenly you own it

to allow USA-İsrael-France to create PKK/YPG terror State to destroy Syria's and Türkiye's territorial integrity ?

No. But you invaded Syria. Yes you said you're doing it to stop PKK from attacking you,ok. But you didn't go in just for that,you went in to stay for good. Well done,it's AKP and MHPs policy,but don't expect the Syrian government,Russia and the rest of the area to actually like it and applaud on that.

to allow USA-İsrael-France to use their puppets ( HAFTAR , THE UAE , KSA ) to make military coup in Libya to destroy maritime deal and good relationship between Turkiye and Libya ?

The war in Libya between the GNA and LNA was going on before you started trying to sign ridiculous deals with the islamist government in Tripoli.

They did it in Egypt to find SISI to work with France,İsrael,Greece , instead of Turkiye

Sisi yes,sisi yes,Morsi no,Morsi no Why wouldn't Sisi and Egypt want to work with France,Israel,Greece,Russia and UAE and instead choose to work with just Turkey under AKP? Erdogan supports the Muslim Brotherhood and if there's something the Egyptians don't want in their neighborhood,it's the Muslim Brotherhood and islamists like them. No Saraj,no Erdy,no Hamas.

btw not Turkiye , but USA-France's policies are bad and distabilizing the entire area.

Funny,you get involved militarily in 5 countries,you constantly provoke Greece and Cyprus through the 2019-2021 period,you keep threatening everyone and somehow "It's USA and France's fault"....
Yeter!

 

[MMM-E]

Sure buddy,declare an area yours and say "Mavi Vatan" and suddenly you own it

Turkiye is not nuclear super power to declare an area ours and say "Mavi Vatan" and suddenly we own it
Turkiye is right by international law , therefore USA-France can do nothing against Türkiye in the Eastern Mediterranean

Sisi yes,sisi yes,Morsi no,Morsi no Why wouldn't Sisi and Egypt want to work with France,Israel,Greece,Russia and UAE and instead choose to work with just Turkey under AKP? Erdogan supports the Muslim Brotherhood and if there's something the Egyptians don't want in their neighborhood,it's the Muslim Brotherhood and islamists like them. No Saraj,no Erdy,no Hamas.

Erdogan doesnt support the Muslim Brotherhood
even in 2011 , Erdogan called on Egyptians to adopt a secular constitution, noting that secularism does not mean renouncing religion

Erdogan calls for a secular Egypt - Egypt Independent

Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan on Monday called on Egyptians to adopt a secular constitution, noting that secularism does not mean renouncing religion. A secular state respects all religions, Erdogan said in an interview with the private satellite TV channel Dream before heading to...

egyptindependent.com

Erdogan just worked with Moursi who was selected by Egyptian People as president of Egypt

Funny,you get involved militarily in 5 countries,you constantly provoke Greece and Cyprus through the 2019-2021 period,you keep threatening everyone and somehow "It's USA and France's fault"....
Yeter!

TURKS dont care about American-İsraeli-European puppets such as Greece,The Uae,HAFTAR,PKK/YPG,FETO,etc

-- Turkiye never will allow USA-İsrael-France to create PKK/YPG terror State to destroy Syria's and Türkiye's territorial integrity

-- Turkiye never will allow USA-İsrael-France to steal oil/gas reserves and MAVI VATAN ( 150.000+ km2 ) from the Turks in the Eastern Mediterranean


keep crying

 

[Foinikas]

Turkiye is not nuclear super power to declare an area ours and say "Mavi Vatan" and suddenly we own it
Turkiye is right by international law , therefore USA-France can do nothing against Türkiye in the Eastern Mediterranean

Does this look "by right of international law" to you?

Erdogan doesnt support the Muslim Brotherhood
even in 2011 , Erdogan called on Egyptians to adopt a secular constitution, noting that secularism does not mean renouncing religion

Turkish municipality erects Rabia sign statue - Türkiye News

A municipality in the northwestern province of Düzce has erected a statue of the famous Rabia sign at an intersection of roads, Doğan News Agency reported on June 21

www.hurriyetdailynews.com

TURKS dont care about American-İsraeli-European puppets such as Greece,The Uae,HAFTAR,PKK/YPG,FETO,etc

Yes,yes everyone is a puppet and a "bandit country".Evet,tamam.Anlamiyorum.

keep crying

To quote Erdogan: "Aaaah aaah!"
Keep living in your dream world.

 

[MMM-E]

Does this look "by right of international law" to you?

even USA and The EU says Seville Map not valid


by International Law Greek Islands dont have Continental Shelf of 200 nm , only Territorial Water of 6nm ...

Greece is not Island State like Indonesia , Philippines , New Zelland , etc
a tiny Greek Island which is just 10 km2 and 580 km away from Greek Mainland and just 2 km away from Turkish Mainland can not generate EEZ of 200 nm ...
so Greek EEZ should start from Greek Mainland ,, not from every tiny Greek Island

ERDOGAN always use four fingered sign which is a global sign of saying no injustices and coup in all over the world

after 2016 failed coup attempt by USA backed FETO terror organization in Turkiye
ERDOGAN claims the four fingered sign stands for one people, one flag, one homeland, one nation

To quote Erdogan: "Aaaah aaah!"
Keep living in your dream world.

We have seen who lives in dream world

TURKS kicked your fantasy dreams in Turkiye,Iraq,Syria,Azerbaijan,Libya and in the Eastern Mediterranean