Greece vs Turkiye Military Power : Tactical and Strategic Advantages

[dani92]

PREDATOR is not European .... but American technology

only Turkiye and USA have UCAV technologies in NATO

We are mocking you we are talking about the predator alien movie franchise and terminator movie franchise which we say turkey have superior technology to them.

 

[Attila the Hun]

Turkish weapons better than Greece's . But not better than France's. But better than USA. But not so good as Cyprus, but better than Russia.

Am I getting it right??

 

[Foinikas]

We have no hurt
We have to see real face of liar Greeks

If you have no hurt,why has Erdogan,Cavusoglu and the Turkish media been talking about it for 2 weeks straight?

And in the forum,you're the only person constantly talking about it. Really,you're the only one mentioning it again and again.
Can't you see that you're the one who's been crying?

Mitsotakis visited Turkiye to meet Erdogan and both leaders agreed not interfering 3rd countries between Greece and Turkiye

and just a few weeks after Mitsotakis cried in Washington please stop Turkiye , please not to sell F-16V to Turkiye

Because Erdogan started sending F-16s and UAVs over our FIR again. Nobody can trust Erdogan. Everybody knows that now. Both Russians and Americans and even the Ukrainians.

another stupid post from you

It's not my fault if you don't get what we're talking about

Turkish weapons better than Greece's . But not better than France's. But better than USA. But not so good as Cyprus, but better than Russia.

Am I getting it right??

The guy said in previous posts,that Turkish army is superior to "weak,pathetic,outdated European armies".

He probably thinks AKP's Turkey can fight USA,Russia and all of Western Europe at the same time and then march to China.

 

[MMM-E]

We are mocking you we are talking about the predator alien movie franchise and terminator movie franchise which we say turkey have superior technology to them.

stupid Trolls from backward countries can not develop even Cruise Missile
go and mock your backward countries

 

[dani92]

If you have no hurt,why has Erdogan,Cavusoglu and the Turkish media been talking about it for 2 weeks straight?

And in the forum,you're the only person constantly talking about it. Really,you're the only one mentioning it again and again.
Can't you see that you're the one who's been crying?


Because the Erdogan started sending F-16s and UAVs over our FIR again. Nobody can trust Erdogan. Everybody knows that now. Both Russians and Americans and even the Ukrainians.


It's not my fault if you don't get what we're talking about

It’s funny they say they are sovereign nation yet they keep kiss the west Asss also they said they fought he crusaders and western imperialism yet they are members of nato and keep begging to get in the EU

Turkish weapons better than Greece's . But not better than France's. But better than USA. But not so good as Cyprus, but better than Russia.

Am I getting it right??

According to him turkey have superior technology to that of alien and predators franchise and terminator franchise abd engender superior to that of crysis, call of duty, mass effect, metal gear solid, gi joe titanfall and halo.

 

[MMM-E]

If you have no hurt,why has Erdogan,Cavusoglu and the Turkish media been talking about it for 2 weeks straight?

They show real face of liar and hypocrite Mitsotakis

Because the Erdogan started sending F-16s and UAVs over our FIR again. Nobody can trust Erdogan. Everybody knows that now. Both Russians and Americans and even the Ukrainians.

lol
then send your trash Rafales against Turkish instead of crying in washington


only losers crying about ERDOGAN

 

[Foinikas]

It’s funny they say they are sovereign nation yet they keep kiss the west Asss also they said they fought he crusaders and western imperialism yet they are members of nato and keep begging to get in the EU

Bro,I remember Erdogan a few ago saying:

-Germans are Nazis
-Mocked Macron of having mental problems
-Accused Israel of genocide against the Palestinians
-Accused the Americans of genocide against the natives and called them a bunch of things.
-Called the Saudis and the Emiratis terrorists and evil this and evil that.

Then he went to Saudi Arabia,UAE and invited the Israelis in Turkey.

He asked to see Biden,he was rejected,he went to see Putin,he came back disappointed,he asked for F-16Vs.

He shook hands with Macron in the conference about Ukraine.

We're talking about a big "sovereign" nation. As soon as the lira falls,all evil terrorists become good investors again.

He says Palestinians are brothers,he rekindles relations with Israel.

Says interest is haram and meanwhile this isn't haram?

 

[MMM-E]

According to him turkey have superior technology to that of alien and predators franchise and terminator franchise abd engender superior to that of crysis, call of duty, mass effect, metal gear solid, gi joe titanfall and halo.

What a stupid Troll

 

[Foinikas]

They show real face of liar and hypocrite Mitsotakis

Did you understand what I wrote? Do you have the mental capacity to understand that it was Erdogan who broke the deal and trust first?

lol
then send your trash Rafales against Turkish instead of crying in washington


only losers crying about ERDOGAN

Habibi,you're the only one crying about it on the forum,you're the one who keeps talking about it. That shows it hurts you a lot.

 

[MMM-E]

Bro,I remember Erdogan a few ago saying:

-Germans are Nazis
-Mocked Macron of having mental problems
-Accused Israel of genocide against the Palestinians
-Accused the Americans of genocide against the natives and called them a bunch of things.
-Called the Saudis and the Emiratis terrorists and evil this and evil that.

Then he went to Saudi Arabia,UAE and invited the Israelis in Turkey.

He asked to see Biden,he was rejected,he went to see Putin,he came back disappointed,he asked for F-16Vs.

He shook hands with Macron in the conference about Ukraine.

We're talking about a big "sovereign" nation. As soon as the lira falls,all evil terrorists become good investors again.

He says Palestinians are brothers,he rekindles relations with Israel.

Says interest is haram and meanwhile this isn't haram?

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The UAE,İsrael came to Turkiye for peace
S.Arabia invited Erdogan for praying in holy Mecca

Greece left alone like naked loser , and Mitsotakis went to USA,Germany for crying .....lol

Did you understand what I wrote? Do you have the mental capacity to understand that it was Erdogan who broke the deal and trust first?

we dont care about liar and hypocrite Mitsotakis anymore

we will show your place as like 1922,1974,1996
dont worry

 

[dani92]

What a stupid Troll

Everyone on this forum mock your unreal stupidity who lives in on other world lol.

 

[Foinikas]

The UAE,İsrael came to Turkiye for peace
S.Arabia invited Erdogan for praying in holy Mecca

Please tell us how filthy rich countries asked for peace with inflation diplomatically isolated Turkey

we will show your place as like 1922,1974,1996
dont worry

You forget 1912 and WWI when we sank your fleet and you didn't dare leave the Dardanelles for 20 years.

we dont care about liar and hypocrite Mitsotakis anymore

How retarded are you? Erdogan broke the deal and the talks and you still say "liar and hypocrite Mitsotakis". You don't have the mental capacity to discuss with other people.

 

[Beny Karachun]

It - just every other APS which is available atm- CAN't defend against top down attacks...

Trophy is relative slow, especially compared to Rheinmetall ADS/StrikeShield (built in with AMAP modules).
And radar based, so very high signature.
Is Trophy effective against APFSDS?
ADS is.
It's nice that it qualified against APFSDS-rounds in the 2000s.
I mean still better than crappy "turkish" (ukrainian copied) APS.
Trophy is the "test" for the Germans in the mean time - because of our extremely sharp rules, Germans wanna have later "infantry-safe" APS or at least most possible safe for operating near by infantry, so Rheinmetall needs to refine their ADS and until then we will test-use the (NOT infantry-friendly) Trophy for a company or 2 companies of Leo2 ...
Was the same story with ERA in german service. Took only 40 yrs, LOL.
Don't forget it was Manfred Held who patented ERA and worked with Israelis together but it took so long to make it EFFICIENT and more safer for Infantry. Diehl is producing this infantry-"friendly" ERA for German Puma as example.
Sometimes I wish Germans would rush their products like the Turks.
Then we would already have the 130mm.

https://www.ads-protection.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/RPS-folder-030719.pdf

Trophy is designed for top down attacks, at a limited angle. It won't work for 90 degrees, but it will work against Javelins.
There's a reason why it's pointed up.

Trophy isn't slow at all lol, what do you mean? Have you seen how fast it aims?

Trophy isn't against APFSDS because it's designed for Israel's needs and Israel isn't threatened by APFSDS. ADS won't work against APFSDS. If you want something to counter APFSDS you could buy the Iron Fist, like the UK.

I doubt ADS will stop an APFSDS shell completely, anything less than a tank/IFV would still be penetrated by what's left of the APFSDS shell, unless the shell is completely vaporized.


ADS is nothing more than fancy ERA, has tons of disadvantages including weight.
Its BIGGEST disadvantage is it can't protect the front of any sloped tank, there's no 360 degree protection and that's why no one will ever buy it.

Notice how it only protects the flat angled sides of the tanks.

What would happen if an RPG would hit this MRAP at the most likely place, the engine bay/window from the front? They'd all be dead.

Here's the best example:

Engine bay is not protected.

This system is completely inferior to Trophy/Iron Fist.


Do you know the advantages of the Trophy? The Trophy isn't designed just to protect the tank, it's also designed to kill the threat.

Since 2014 the Trophy has been upgraded, once it detects a missile has been launched, the system notifies the crew on the whereabouts of the enemy and in a push of a button it automatically rotates the turret to the location the missile was fired from.

So from the view of the ATGM operator, almost as soon as he fires it, he sees the tank aiming and shooting at him, even if the shell misses (Most likely it won't), the threat will run away.

Then we would already have the 130mm.
https://www.ads-protection.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/RPS-folder-030719.pdf

130mm might be a good addition though.

 

[MMM-E]

Please tell us how filthy rich countries asked for peace with inflation diplomatically isolated Turkey

without American protection S.Arabia and The Uae are nothing
They have money but no military power .... İran easly can invade both S.Arabia and The Uae

OBAMA and BIDEN dont care about Gulf States
even in 2021 , USA has removed its most advanced missile defense system and PATRIOT batteries from Saudi Arabia

also S.Arabia is so happy because Turkiye transferred of journalist Jamal Khashoggi trial to S.Arabia


so Turkiye and Saudi Arabia agreed to increase all kinds of political, military and economic relations to start a new era

How retarded are you? Erdogan broke the deal and the talks and you still say "liar and hypocrite Mitsotakis". You don't have the mental capacity to discuss with other people.

Your Troll team have no any military-politic knowledge to discuss with me

your liar , hypocrite , puppet Mitsotakis broke deal and cried like little girls in Washington
( please stop Turkiye , please not to sell F-16V to Turkiye ) pathetic puppet

 

[MMM-E]

Trophy is designed for top down attacks, at a limited angle. It won't work for 90 degrees, but it will work against Javelins.

Turkish UCAVs use smart munitions and TROPHY can not stop Turkish UCAVs

death comes from above