GREECE refuses licence for German " Interdisciplinary" Survey Ship Meteor

[Mr.Department]

You think way too simplistically, ofc military spending does have its importance, but international law also counts in order for stability to exist, even after 2 very destructive world wars, otherwise in a world of such destructive weapons(including nuclear weapons for the big powers who have them at least) we would have become ashes long ago. International law also was made to serve the big powers interests, but as a "collateral damage" smaller countries interests are also served in a smaller case, what's more alliances play a bigger part, try to get out of NATO for example and hit Greece, what you think is going to happen?
Ofc on first thought the other countries would be reluctant to fight a war, but if they didn't help their member in need, the whole alliance would be crumbled and be torn apart afterwards, the other countries would also think they should get out, since its members are not trully protected.

What's more in Cyprus case, you think you can take the whole island by military means, but remember what i said previously about Cyprus and how you invaded it serving the british and american interests, noone will ever get the whole island, even all if the greekcypriots magically abandoned the island and didn't fight, the british and americans would find even in that case a way that you can't have it, you went there because it was part of the plan.
Till now Turkey hasn't drilled and hasn't put a platform in Cyprus EEZ. With the new ship you got i think you can make research drilling, but first you need to find worthwhile quantities of oil and natural gas and then put a drilling platform and start extracting oil, which will take some years. Till then we'll see, i think you will get reasonable and stay as you are..

@Vord

Bruder, ich habe nicht die Muse und die Zeit mich mit diesem KYP Agenten zu streiten.
Wenn ich Ihn stelle, wird er zahlen. Ich unterschätze niemals diese gyGriks .
Die haben freien Lauf in der EU. Er hat sich klar offenbart.
Let's go on brother.

 

[NickGr]

@Vord

Bruder, ich habe nicht die Muse und die Zeit mich mit diesem KYP Agenten zu streiten.
Wenn ich Ihn stelle, wird er zahlen. Ich unterschätze niemals diese gyGriks .
Die haben freien Lauf in der EU. Er hat sich klar offenbart.
Let's go on brother.

Lol, now i'm upgraded to an agent, i like it. Since i don't have the time either i leave you for now..

 

[Mr.Department]

Lol, now i'm upgraded to an agent

Yes. Grats, you are upgraded to the next level. Take it as a grant from a Turk.
Take care there are 3 Million Turkish language speaking Greek citizens in your country.
Most of them are Lazos. Now, handle the paranoia.

 

[Mr.Department]

Bist du verruckt? Dieser Griechische troll ist kein agent. Er trollt uns, also trollen wir ihn zuruck. Er ist keine wichtige person. Manchmal nimmt er es zu ernst. Wir sollten ihn ignorieren oder uns uber ihn lustig machen.

Jemand , der sich soviel Zeit nimmt ist nicht normal.
You know for sure the current Twitter Trolls during the crisis in Iran now and before in the campaign against Turkey. Most are professional and paid for posting, Russia is not the only country which focuses on media warfare.
There is a huge unemployment rate of realy intellectual people in Greece, many are hired for those shit jobs.
If you scan the most effective social media you can make a statistic for your own. Old principle: Louder you cry , more people you will attract and though you are the "agressor" but show yourself as human rights protector or what else I could mention you are on the peak rating.

 

[Pax Ottomana]

Jemand , der sich soviel Zeit nimmt ist nicht normal.
You know for sure the current Twitter Trolls during the crisis in Iran now and before in the campaign against Turkey. Most are professional and paid for posting, Russia is not the only country which focuses on media warfare.
There is a huge unemployment rate of realy intellectual people in Greece, many are hired for those shit jobs.
If you scan the most effective social media you can make a statistic for your own. Old principle: Louder you cry , more people you will attract and though you are the "agressor" but show yourself as human rights protector or what else I could mention you are on the peak rating.

Mate, this @NickGr guy is not an agent or a paid poster. He's just the average dumb but passionate grik who feels some pride because he's sticking up for his failed country and people in a forum where he's vastly outnumbered. Good for him. I say let him! He's adding some color and comic relief. Think about it this way. This forum only attracts a fringe audience, it doesn't have any effect on the public opinion of any nation. It's not a FB group or Twitter account with millions of followers.

 

[Mr.Department]

Mate,

Ok buddy. I am listening super mixed Turkish music in the background. Maybe that it influences me . BTW sorry for our dispute long time ago

 

[NickGr]

Mate, this @NickGr guy is not an agent or a paid poster. He's just the average dumb but passionate grik who feels some pride because he's sticking up for his failed country and people in a forum where he's vastly outnumbered. Good for him. I say let him! He's adding some color and comic relief. Think about it this way. This forum only attracts a fringe audience, it doesn't have any effect on the public opinion of any nation. It's not a FB group or Twitter account with millions of followers.

You mean if i was to affect any country's public opinion, i should be banned perhaps? Oh how democratic of you, but anyway thanks for "giving me the permission to write" my opinion.
The comic relief comes when you re faced with hard evidence and arguments and you can't post a single argument except for imaginery bombs and rockets in Athens and "we re gonna bomb and attack and attack.. Lol your posts make my day actually, so keep posting the way you do..

Jemand , der sich soviel Zeit nimmt ist nicht normal.
You know for sure the current Twitter Trolls during the crisis in Iran now and before in the campaign against Turkey. Most are professional and paid for posting, Russia is not the only country which focuses on media warfare.
There is a huge unemployment rate of realy intellectual people in Greece, many are hired for those shit jobs.
If you scan the most effective social media you can make a statistic for your own. Old principle: Louder you cry , more people you will attract and though you are the "agressor" but show yourself as human rights protector or what else I could mention you are on the peak rating.

Just to end this, @Vord has right on one thing only, i'm no paid troll or something, i'm just writing my opinion here on matters that affect my country, that's all believe it or not.

 

[Kamil_baku]

You mean if i was to affect any country's public opinion, i should be banned perhaps? Oh how democratic of you, but anyway thanks for "giving me the permission to write" my opinion.
The comic relief comes when you re faced with hard evidence and arguments and you can't post a single argument except for imaginery bombs and rockets in Athens and "we re gonna bomb and attack and attack.. Lol your posts make my day actually, so keep posting the way you do..



Just to end this, @Vord has right on one thing only, i'm no paid troll or something, i'm just writing my opinion here on matters that affect my country, that's all believe it or not.

Dude i like that you answer without aggression. Keep it this way. You are just in military forum, get used to these things..

 

[Pax Ottomana]

So long as Greece harbors and supports terrorists against Turkey, tries to steal what belongs to Cypriot Turks, treats its Muslim/Turkish minority like they don't exist, have delusions like Megali Idea, deny the Turks access to the Aegean with 12 NM territorial waters and does the West's bidding in trying to control and contain Turkey's rise, there can be no peace. Greeks ACT like the enemy because they simply, truly ARE the enemy. They're not even trying too hard to convince us otherwise. Turkish people should bear no delusions about ever being true friends, partners and allies with these scum. We should focus on building up our indigenous War Machine with all sorts of capabilities (including nuclear) and when the day comes, wipe them all out! Let the world learn about them from museums and history books. That's the only way to safeguard our western flank once and for all.

 

[Mr.Department]

So long as Greece harbors and supports terrorists against Turkey, tries to steal what belongs to Cypriot Turks, treats its Muslim/Turkish minority like they don't exist, have delusions like Megali Idea, deny the Turks access to the Aegean with 12 NM territorial waters and does the West's bidding in trying to control and contain Turkey's rise, there can be no peace. Greeks ACT like the enemy because they simply, truly ARE the enemy. They're not even trying too hard to convince us otherwise. Turkish people should bear no delusions about ever being true friends, partners and allies with these scum. We should focus on building up our indigenous War Machine with all sorts of capabilities (including nuclear) and when the day comes, wipe them all out! Let the world learn about them from museums and history books. That's the only way to safeguard our western flank once and for all.

Griks refused to protect NATO base in Gümülcine

http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/muthis-iddia-yunan-askerler-nato-ussunu-korumayi-reddetti-40702183

 

[NickGr]

So long as Greece harbors and supports terrorists against Turkey, tries to steal what belongs to Cypriot Turks, treats its Muslim/Turkish minority like they don't exist, have delusions like Megali Idea, deny the Turks access to the Aegean with 12 NM territorial waters and does the West's bidding in trying to control and contain Turkey's rise, there can be no peace. Greeks ACT like the enemy because they simply, truly ARE the enemy. They're not even trying too hard to convince us otherwise. Turkish people should bear no delusions about ever being true friends, partners and allies with these scum. We should focus on building up our indigenous War Machine with all sorts of capabilities (including nuclear) and when the day comes, wipe them all out! Let the world learn about them from museums and history books. That's the only way to safeguard our western flank once and for all.

I'll not report it but i'll allow you to entertain us with your manners(anyway it's a forum here and you re nothing more than just a nickname behind a pc that wants attention), although what you're doing is insulting a national symbol of another country.

 

[Mr.Department]

I'll not report it but i'll allow you to entertain us with your manners(anyway it's a forum here and you re nothing more than just a nickname behind a pc that wants attention), although what you're doing is insulting a national symbol of another country.

Now back to topic. German Survey ship was underway in Turkish territorial waters. Turkish Coast Guard asked them to apply for a licence and promised quick completition. Meteor asked official for a licence. Then Greek side unexpectely withdraw the permission for Survey in Greek waters and threatened the crew and ship to be arrrested.
Meteor left the Aegean escorted by an Greek Coast Guard Ship.

https://www.heise.de/tp/features/Gr...rkei-die-beliebteste-Feindschaft-3932671.html

 

[NickGr]

Now back to topic. German Survey ship was underway in Turkish territorial waters. Turkish Coast Guard asked them to apply for a licence and promised quick completition. Meteor asked official for a licence. Then Greek side unexpectely withdraw the permission for Survey in Greek waters and threatened the crew and ship to be arrrested.
Meteor left the Aegean escorted by an Greek Coast Guard Ship.

https://www.heise.de/tp/features/Gr...rkei-die-beliebteste-Feindschaft-3932671.html

It was between Samothrace and Lemnos.

Turkish Navtex prompts Greece to cancel license for German ship

Athens has cancelled the license it granted to the Meteor ship to conduct research on behalf of the University of Heidelberg in the Aegean Sea after Turkey on Wednesday disputed Greece’s sovereign rights by granting its own permits to the German vessel.

More specifically, Ankara on Wednesday issued a navigational telex (Navtex) reserving the Aegean Sea in its entirety for scientific research and granted the Meteor the right to conduct operations, implying that Turkey and not Greece has the sovereign right to issue such licenses.

Last Friday, the Meteor, which is owned by the Germany’s Federal Ministry of Education, was harassed in the sea area between Samothrace and Limnos in the northern Aegean by the Turkish coast guard, which warned the captain to leave, saying the vessel was in Turkish waters.

However, the Meteor had been granted all the necessary permits from the Greek Foreign Ministry to conduct research in the northern Aegean.

Referring to the incident last week, Greek military officials said it was a standard Turkish tactic to challenge Greece’s sovereign rights in the Aegean.

After the incident, the German Foreign Ministry reportedly appealed to Turkish authorities, which in turn gave their “permission” to the German ship to conduct research in a region within Greece’s jurisdiction that coincides with the Athens Flight Information Region (FIR).

This turn of events prompted the Greek Foreign Ministry to cancel the permits it had given the Germans, who, in the meantime, have stopped their mission in the northern Aegean.

Kathimerini understands that Greece has reported the issue to the International Hydrographic Organization (IHO) rather than follow the usual course of action in these situations by issuing its own Navtex in response.

http://www.ekathimerini.com/224625/...mpts-greece-to-cancel-license-for-german-ship

 

[Mr.Department]

German Foreign Ministry reportedly appealed to Turkish authorities, which in turn gave their “permission” to the German ship to conduct research in a region within Greece’s jurisdiction that coincides with the Athens Flight Information Region (FIR)

This shows your intention " Aegean belongs 100 % to Grecece".
Chaotic nonsence from Greek press . Mixing apples and pies.
FIR (Flight Information Region)
is air traffic control regulated from Eurocontrol in Maastricht, nothing to do with Territorial waters.

 

[NickGr]

This shows your intention " Aegean belongs 100 % to Grecece".
Chaotic nonsence from Greek press . Mixing apples and pies.
FIR (Flight Information Region)
is air traffic control regulated from Eurocontrol in Maastricht, nothing to do with Territorial waters.

It wasn't only on greek territorial waters, it was in the sea between Samothrace and Limnos, till now there's 6nm greek territorial water from each of those 2 islands and then the rest is international. The turkish coast guard wanted the ship to ask for permission even to the part of the international waters.