Greece chose SPIKE NLOS for Armed Forces

[MMM-E]

Back in the 1912,the majority of the Turkish fleet was more modern than the majority of the Greek fleet. Except of course for the Averrof.

You are wrong

only Your Averrof was enough with great technology advantage against our 4 old Warships


The Greek battleship Averof had speed , fire power advantage and clashed with the Ottoman fleet alone.


We paid money to The UK to buy 2 modern Warships but British blocked transfer of 2 modern Warships to the Ottoman Empire



now Turkey has its own Naval Industry to produce unmanned armed Vessel , FAC , OPV , Corvette , Frigate and soon TF-2000 class Destroyer

also anti-ship Missiles to hit Warships

SOM-C , ATMACA , MRASHM , TRLG-230 , KUZGUN-TJ , KGK-LR

If I'm showing all this,is because of your annoying bragging. That's why. Normally I would be a gentleman and not do it. But you force me to remind you a bit about naval history.

And what happened with the "bandit" countries?

in 1827

3 major powers ( The UK+France+Russia ) together attacked on the Ottoman Navy

still you have no shame


today Russia is not against Turkey
today The UK is not against Turkey


only France against Turkey
and Turkey has enough power to counter French Navy in the Eastern Mediterranean

thanks to Turkish Defense Industry

 

[Foinikas]

only Your Averrof was enough with great technology advantage against our 4 old Warships

Isn't that what I just said? That most of your fleet was better than most of ours.

in 1827

3 major powers ( The UK+France+Russia ) together attacked on the Ottoman Navy

still you have no shame

If you check the balance of forces,you weren't lacking in ships.

 

[retaxis]

Turkey better know it is not like UK or France. Its not even a regional power because Iran, Israel and Egypt are more powerful. Better to keep roughing up the kurds before they outbreed the turks and turn Turkey into Kurdistan.

 

[MMM-E]

Isn't that what I just said? That most of your fleet was better than most of ours.

No

Greece had superior Warship

I am saying again , only Your Averrof was enough with great technology advantage against our 4 old Warships


therefore , We paid money to The UK to buy 2 modern Warships but British blocked transfer of 2 modern Warships to the Ottoman Empire

Ottoman Empire and Germany were land powers with very strong huge Armies but sucks in naval power

If you check the balance of forces,you weren't lacking in ships.

Quality over Quantity

The UK,France,Russia had far superior Warships in 1827 including superior fire distance and power



but as of 2021 , there are Missile technologies

and Turkey has its own technology to block Turkish EEZ against Greece and France

SOM-C , ATMACA , MRASHM , TRLG-230 , KUZGUN-TJ , KGK-LR
and RAMJET powered supersonic anti-ship Missile is under development

 

[Apollon]

You dont know anything about Turkish military power and you compare Greece with Turkey

stop idiotic dreams-claims ... and wake up


only Turkish UCAVs and land based ATMACA anti-ship Missiles will be enough to destroy all Hellenic Navy


Turkish Navy 16 Frigates have more SAMs than Hellenic+French Navies combined



how to stop hundreds of Turkish Missiles ?


9 ELLI class Greek Frigates are so weak and pathetic .... armed with only 8x Sea Sparrow SAMs ( 16km )

4 HYDRA class Greek Frigates are so weak and pathetic .... armed with only 16x ESSM SAMs ( 50km )


10 Turkish AKINCI UCAVs to carry 40x TRLG-230 laser guided supersonic Missiles for swarm attack on ELLI class or HYDRA class Frigate from 150km away .... and game over
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10 Turkish AKINCI UCAVs to carry 60x KUZGUN-TJ Missiles with IIR seeker for swarm attack on ELLI class or HYDRA class Frigate from 250km away .... and game over
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even I am not talking about other Missiles , Warships , Submarines and F-16s




in a conflict even Greek or French Frigates can not enter Turkish EEZ

because of 250km Turkish land based ATMACA anti-ship Missiles
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Why dont you enter our EEZ? You are scared? All we hear is whining.

 

[Foinikas]

Quality over Quantity

The UK,France,Russia had far superior Warships in 1827 including superior fire distance and power



but as of 2021 , there are Missile technologies

and Turkey has its own technology to block Turkish EEZ against Greece and France

SOM-C , ATMACA , MRASHM , TRLG-230 , KUZGUN-TJ , KGK-LR
and RAMJET powered supersonic anti-ship Missile is under development

Aaaah habibi,we don't know the quality of these newly-made Turkish weapons either. It's all hypothetical. It's not something to brag about yet. You only recently started developing such technologies compared to big powers. It's all good in theory,but you don't know if they really are quality stuff.

 

[MMM-E]

Aaaah habibi,we don't know the quality of these newly-made Turkish weapons either. It's all hypothetical. It's not something to brag about yet. You only recently started developing such technologies compared to big powers. It's all good in theory,but you don't know if they really are quality stuff.

Turkish TB-2 UCAVs destroyed most modern Russian Air Defense Systems

Europe has no UCAV technology yet to use in conflict .... only USA and Turkey in NATO
even Europe has no AD System to stop TB-2 UCAVs


Turkish Weapons have high quality NATO standart ... and easly can match with American,Russian,French Weapons



btw 25km SPIKE-NLOS can not change anything

better you should focus on how to stop Turkish Missiles
Turkish 100 km MRASHM cruise Missile to be launched from UCAVs , HURJET and Unmanned Vessels

The national design missile engine has the feature of working with under wing wind without the need for a starter system that allow the missile to integrate into the air-land-naval platforms

 

[Foinikas]

Turkish TB-2 UCAVs destroyed most modern Russian Air Defense Systems

Then why are you buying Russian systems?

Turkish Weapons have high quality NATO standart ... and easly can match with American,Russian,French Weapons

Quality and lower price than the Chinese makes no sense. Something's not right.

btw 25km SPIKE-NLOS can not change anything

I remember you and other Turks said the same about Rafale. Then you said the same about Belharra.

 

[MMM-E]

Then why are you buying Russian systems?

because of against Fighter Jets
100 km HISAR-U and 150km SIPER Air Defense Systems until 2024

Greece-France have NO UCAV technology

Quality and lower price than the Chinese makes no sense. Something's not right.

Chinese weapons have NO high quality

I remember you and other Turks said the same about Rafale. Then you said the same about Belharra.

Rafale with METEOR is a big threat but Turkey bought S400 to block Rafale

BELHARRA is not a threat ... Turkey has developed tons of Missiles to turn BELHARRA into crap of metal in hours

 

[Foinikas]

Chinese weapons have NO high quality

Wait a minute,I have to bring the Chinese here to confirm that...lol
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@serenity @Char

BELHARRA is not a threat ... Turkey has developed tons of Missiles to turn BELHARRA into crap of mettal in hours

Big words. Belharra will not be alone. They will be escorted by other ships as well.

 

[MMM-E]

Big words. Belharra will not be alone. They will be escorted by other ships as well.

other Ships also will be destroyed


Thanks to SOM-C , ATMACA , TRLG-230 , MRASHM , KUZGUN-TJ , KGK-LR , SDM-IIR , AKBABA , HARPOON , SLAM-ER and HARM


btw 3 BELHARRA Frigates will be in service between 2024 and 2027

Turkish RAMJET powered supersonic anti-ship Missile and anti-ship Ballistic Missile based on BARA will be ready in the next 5 years


bad news for Greek Navy
Turkish unmanned Vessels and Submarines armed with AKYA heavyweight Torpedo will be game changer in the Eastern Mediterranean

also 4 new ISTIF class Frigates between 2023 and 2026
also 10 new FACs armed with 76mm gun , 8x ATMACA anti-ship missiles and 21x RAM
also 10 new OPV armed with 76mm gun , 8x ATMACA anti-ship missiles , 8x HISAR-O SAMs and Torpedos
also 6 new Type-214TN class AIP Submarines between 2022 and 2027

even I am not talking about game changer TF-2000 class Destroyer by 2027


so 3 BELHERRA class Frigates can not change anything

 

[armandinho]

other Ships also will be destroyed


Thanks to SOM-C , ATMACA , TRLG-230 , MRASHM , KUZGUN-TJ , KGK-LR , SDM-IIR , AKBABA , HARPOON , SLAM-ER and HARM


btw 3 BELHARRA Frigates will be in service between 2024 and 2027

Turkish RAMJET powered supersonic anti-ship Missile and anti-ship Ballistic Missile based on BARA will be ready in the next 5 years

MMM -E

how do you explain that weak tiny useless Greece expanded 6 times its territory (1831, 1864, 1881, 1912,1917,1947) against Turkey will, and superpower Turkey reverted only once (1922)??

File:Territorial Expansion of Greece from 1832–1947.gif - Wikimedia Commons

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actually Greece implemented what you and Attila dream to do.

but Greece did it in real life not drug dreaming.

 

[Foinikas]

MMM -E

how do you explain that weak tiny useless Greece expanded 6 times its territory (1831, 1864, 1881, 1912,1917,1947) against Turkey will, an superpower Turkey reverted only once (1922)??

File:Territorial Expansion of Greece from 1832–1947.gif - Wikimedia Commons

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actually Greece implemented what you and attila dream to do. but Greece did it in real life not drug dreaming.

That's not the matter,he will say other countries helped us. I showed him earlier how we were unbeatable at sea fighting against them.
Both in the 19th century and during the Balkan Wars. Even the Bulgarians defeated them in one battle:

 

[MMM-E]

actually Greece implemented what you and attila dream to do. but Greece did it in real life not drug dreaming.

so funny

Ottoman Empire had around 7.500 km2 of territory in 1299
but Ottoman Empire had over 5,5 million km2 of territory in 1600s

btw We Turks took all Anatolia including Istanbul from Greeks .......... drug dreaming since 1071

 

[armandinho]

That's not the matter,he will say other countries helped us. I showed him earlier how we were unbeatable at sea fighting against them.
Both in the 19th century and during the Balkan Wars. Even the Bulgarians defeated them in one battle:
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Greece has won them in countless one-on -one battles.

even during 1897 war Greece won one-on-one battles.

Battle of Velestino - Wikipedia

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If they have lost a naval battle from bulgaria is like a shark (turkey) to lose a sea battle by a bird (bulgaria) and say that will win easily a dolphin (Greece)