Govt set to convert Gilgit-Baltistan into fifth province

[Awi]

The Simla Agreement remains in force and is regarded as valid by both sides, and hence applicable.

(Thank you, but my wisdom here is regarded rather poorly. )

We (Pak & India) are throwing dirt at each other for the things that are clearly mentioned in the Agreement that both sides would refrain from, so how is it valid?

 

[VCheng]

We (Pak & India) are throwing dirt at each other for the things that are clearly mentioned in the Agreement that both sides would refrain from, so how is it valid?

Legally, it remains in full force, Sir.

 

[Kabira]

Nothing to do with Kashmiri's.....the Indian gov't and the majority of Indian ppl including Kashmiri's want article 370 to be abolished. Now with Pakistan doing this to pacify Chinese concerned about India claims and CPEC, this will allow India to finally push thru the abolition of Article 370 once and for all.

Pakistan's action will ultimately nullify any past pacts or agreements....LOL

Even if India doesn't want to go that route, it can always bring up the issue in the UN.. where China haters will fully support us haha

Only reason India isn't removing article 370 is because it will make Wani murder episode look like child's play, even Indian puppets in IoK are against it. While GB people have been demanding provincial status since 1948. UN support or lack of it will not resolve IoK issue anyway.

99% of hindus support to abolish article 370 isn't that surprising considering they also support outright genocide of native Kashmiri muslims which will also go well in UN.

 

[axisofevil]

Only reason India isn't removing article 370 is because it will make Wani murder episode look like child's play, even Indian puppets in IoK are against it. While GB people have been demanding provincial status since 1948. UN support or lack of it will not resolve IoK issue anyway.

99% of hindus support to abolish article 370 isn't that surprising considering they also support outright genocide of native Kashmiri muslims which will also go well in UN.

Yea right....GB wants to leave asap. Stop fooling yourself. Wani's death is nothing....you must also remember we keep our security forces on a leash. God forbid we let them take out their anger on terrorists and their supporters....HAHA....it won't be no child play, trust me.


All this BS about 99% of Hindus and genocide is full of shit...

 

[Awi]

(Thank you, but my wisdom here is regarded rather poorly. )

Well, I for one believe that you are wiser than even, you think you are.

Legally, it remains in full force, Sir.

You mean, it will remain in full force no matter what? Maybe Pakistan want's to test the limits of this fantasy (Simla Agreement)? Because to me, India needs it more than Pakistan.

 

[VCheng]

Well, I for one believe that you are wiser than even, you think you are.



You mean, it will remain in full force no matter what? Maybe Pakistan want's to test the limits of this fantasy (Simla Agreement)? Because to me, India needs it more than Pakistan.

Thank you for the kind words.

The Simla Agreement remains in full force until and unless formally abrogated by either side.

 

[Kabira]

Yea right....GB wants to leave asap. Stop fooling yourself. Wani's death is nothing....you must also remember we keep our security forces on a leash. God forbid we let them take out their anger on terrorists and their supporters....HAHA....it won't be no child play, trust me.

I ask again does it matter if even 100% of blood sucking hindus demand removal of article 370 and genocide of Kashmiri muslims? No they don't matter at all.

 

[Talwar e Pakistan]

How far you wanna go back in history to see true historical facts of this region? If you wanna bring up Dogra, then we can bring up a lot more backed by evidence.

Please do.

 

[Kabira]

Thank you for the kind words.

The Simla Agreement remains in full force until and unless formally abrogated by either side.

More details should be out by next week but from what I understand.

1. G-B will have seats in national assembly, senate etc like any other province.
2. Share in NFC award like any other province.

Apart from these two points status will remain same. Not sure of laws about foreign investment in G-B. Pakistan will likely make some changes to bring investment in GB and also not change demographics in process.

This doesn't really give India justification to remove article 370 and genocide of Kashmiri muslims.

 

[django]

1. I disagree that GB people want to be part of Pakistan. Turtok village and surrounding area is also part of GB region who would like to be with India.

Have you ever been to GB hhhmm NO you have not, if you had you would know that they are amongst the most patriotic Pakistanis folk you will find.
@WAJsal

 

[WAJsal]

The most important aspect are the legal issues, not political and not academic. Changing the status of a disputed territory is bound to be complicated.

Inevitable, any complications will be tackled i hope. The news was surfacing when CPEC was given a go ahead, i think FATA and GB reforms are also part of a grand plan to end sense of deprivation of sorts-my opinion.

Now article 370 can be abolished in our Kashmir too.

Would you bet on it? can think of some excuses for our Indian members. Very hilarious though. It seems that most of the Indian posters have no idea about the local politics and local demands, and even what Pakistani political and military leadership has planned out for the future. Take a hint from FATA reforms, GB reforms, NAP... This will not affect Kashmir cause in anyway, mark my words. Actually you might see a butt hurt statement from PM Modi, that's the only reaction it will cause(will be eagerly waiting for that)

@Areesh you are wasting your time with trolls from across the border. When a troll compares a fully armed terror outfit which was well equipped and well trained and knew how to use the terrain and held large swathes of land with innocent unarmed stone Pelters then you can guess the common sense levels and intellect of the said poster. Best not to waste time with them. Fact is that these trolls enjoyed deaths and attacks in Pakistan and they long for those days when everyday attacks happened everywhere. They were convinced that this was our end yet we survived and not only survived but pushed the terrorists back and handed them a severe defeat that saw a massive reduction in attacks all over Pakistan. We also dealt a finishing blow to the baluch terror outfits which burns them the most. They can't stand this so they come up with rubbish like " bombing their own civilians". Remember they are a brainwashed lot and their brains are constantly bombarded with propaganda by their media. Best to ignore them and let the trolls wallow in their own self hate and pity.


Anyhow this was long over due. The region of gilgit baltistan fought against the dogra raj and secured their freedom and wilfully became part of Pakistan only to see them be estranged in a constitutional limbo. At least AJK has their own Parliament and prime minister. Gilgit baltistan had nothing until 2010 when they finally got provincial govt but again they severely lacked national representation and they deserve national representation. They are loyal Pakistan who have fought and shed blood for Pakistan. Its time we bring them in the fold. We need to start correcting mistakes and the mistake of not giving gilgit baltistan equal representative opportunity in Pakistan needs to be corrected.

@shimshali @WAJsal

Its been long enough.

well said good friend Saiyan.

Have you ever been to GB hhhmm NO you have not, if you had you would know that they are amongst the most patriotic Pakistanis folk you will find.
@WAJsal

Wasting your valuable time.

This doesn't really give India justification to remove article 370 and genocide of Kashmiri muslims.

You are talking logically, don't expect the same replies. Emotions are clouding judgments i guess. I too can't seem to link these two things together. Well they have the right to an opinion...

 

[VCheng]

Inevitable, any complications will be tackled i hope. The news was surfacing when CPEC was given a go ahead, i think FATA and GB reforms are also part of a grand plan to end sense of deprivation of sorts-my opinion.

The legal aspects must be examined very carefully if Pakistan is not to further jeopardize its claims.

More details should be out by next week

I would like to know more details before opining further.

 

[Areesh]

This beautiful town is going to be officially part of our country.

Gilgit Baltistan Zindabad
Pakistan Paindabad

 

[The Sandman]

Excellent news for the people of GB and rest of Pakistan.

 

[Imad.Khan]

Excellent news, first FATA to merge with KPK and now GB given official provincial status. its about time that all Pakistanis have the same rights where ever they may reside.

Next Step : Give voting rights to overseas Pakistanis.