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Govt. eases citizenship rules for Pak refugees.

so they have option of going back.. right?

That is for them to decide..If India deports them..Pakistan cannot and wont reject them.
But the truth is that same as that clown "Kassab" or whatever that sock Muppet is called..These Hindus are a chance to get advertisement for India for Indian authorities,so why send then]m back? Instead leave them on streets..And that's what India is doing.
 
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Yeah we all know about petty politics in Pakistan, whether it is played in the name of Islam or ethnicities. Thats is really what Pakistan is my friend.

As for poor migrant Indian Hindus, please dont say things you have no idea about, do you have any sources to back up these claims? If I start giving you a list of influential people in India with Pakistani roots, from Bollywood to cricketers to politicians like the current Prime Minister of India, or the leader of the BJP LK Advani, you will be shocked. It is a well-known fact that Punjabi Hindus (many of whom are migrants from Pakistan) run most businesses in North Indian cities and form a backbone for the North Indian economy.

So by your own admission..it has happened in the past that Hindus from Pakistan have chose to Migrate to India?
So whats so bad if it has happened again?
 
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Fearing Taliban, Pak Hindus take Thar Express to India

JAISALMER: In the past four years, some 5,000 Hindus may have crossed over from Pakistan, never to return. It has not been easy abandoning their homes, sometimes even their families, but they say they had no choice: they had to flee the Taliban.

It started as a trickle in 2006, the year the Thar Express was flagged off. The weekly train starts from Karachi, enters India at Munabao, a border town in Barmer, and runs up to Jodhpur. In the first year, 392 Hindus crossed over.

This grew to 880 in 2007. The next year, the number was 1,240, and this year, till August, over 1,000 have crossed over. They just keep extending their visas and hope to become Indian citizens.

Incidentally, these are official figures. Sources say there are many more who cross over and melt in the local milieu. And officials have a soft corner for these people, most of whom have harrowing stories to tell.

Ranaram, who used to live in the Rahimyar district of Pakistan's Punjab, says he fell prey to the Taliban. His wife was kidnapped, raped and forcibly converted to Islam. His two daughters were also forcibly converted. Ranaram, too, had to accept Islam for fear of his life. He thought it best to flee with his two daughters; his wife was untraceable.

Dungaram, another migrant, says atrocities against Hindus in Pakistan have increased in the past two years after the ouster of Musharraf. "We won't get permanent jobs unless we convert to Islam."

Hindu Singh Sodha, president of Seemant Lok Sangathan, a group working for the refugees in Barmer and Jaisalmer, says there's unfortunately no proper refugee policy in India even though people from Pakistan reach here in large numbers.

He said in 2004-05, over 135 families were given Indian citizenship but the rest are still living illegally in the country and are often tortured by police because they don't have proper citizenship certificates. "In December 2008, over 200 Hindus were converted to Islam in Mirpur Khas town of Pakistan. But there are several others who want to stick to their religion but there's no safety for them in Pakistan."

Immigration officer at Munabao railway station, Hetudan Charan, says the arrival of Hindu migrants had suddenly increased as over 15 to 16 families were reaching India every week. "None of them admit they are to settle here but seeing their baggage, we easily understand,'' he said.

Ravi Kumar, who was Barmer collector till his transfer two days back, said the government in 2007 had given permanent citizenship to a few Pakistani immigrants.

Fearing Taliban, Pak Hindus take Thar Express to India - Times Of India
 
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But regardless of whatever name they are given..all of them have Pakistani passports and officially Pakistanis..
Unlike the poor Hindu Migrants who have nothing and will probably die hungry and nameless on the streets.

What does it say about Pakistan mate.. That these people are happier dying hungry and nameless on the streets in India rather than live with a Pakistani Passport in Pakistan .. hmm....
 
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From your constitution where it says I can be a very talented and forward thinking individual but since I am a non-Muslim I can never become the Prime Minister or President of the nation.



What about it?

No Muslim ahs ever become Primem inister in India ever...President is sock muppet so dont tell me Abula Kalam.
 
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So by your own admission..it has happened in the past that Hindus from Pakistan have chose to Migrate to India?
So whats so bad if it has happened again?

they can migrate but asking for asylum because of prosecution by majority is just shameful.

No Muslim ahs ever become Primem inister in India ever...President is sock muppet so dont tell me Abula Kalam.

Three muslim president
 
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That is for them to decide..If India deports them..Pakistan cannot and wont reject them.
But the truth is that same as that clown "Kassab" or whatever that sock Muppet is called..These Hindus are a chance to get advertisement for India for Indian authorities,so why send then]m back? Instead leave them on streets..And that's what India is doing.

You deport illegal immigrants staying without declaring themselves. If someone applies for asylum, you hear their case. If they are entitled for asylum due to persecution where they come from, or if their life is threatened in any which way then they qualify for asylum. If they don't then they will be deported back. Also if they do not wish to continue with their application, they can leave the country & go back or go to the nearest Pak high commission & seek refuge there. But that's not happening here.. is it?
 
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What does it say about Pakistan mate.. That these people are happier dying hungry and nameless on the streets in India rather than live with a Pakistani Passport in Pakistan .. hmm....

On the other hand it also says that Media has created a wrong hype about India which lured the Hindus and left them stranded.
A wake up call for them really.

You deport illegal immigrants staying without declaring themselves. If someone applies for asylum, you hear their case. If they are entitled for asylum due to persecution where they come from, or if their life is threatened in any which way then they qualify for asylum. If they don't then they will be deported back. Also if they do not wish to continue with their application, they can leave the country & go back or go to the nearest Pak high commission & seek refuge there. But that's not happening here.. is it?

Well they are free ticket for india for media lime light and .....ooooh we are so desirable ... propaganda? and that all for free..so why deport them..basque in the lime light and leave them on the streets?
 
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You calling them financial migrants is whats so wrong about it. You telling us that India does not treat them with respect is whats so wrong about it. You raping and forcefully converting their daughters/sisters in the community, effectively forcing them to leave the country is whats so wrong about it. Despite the world making so much progress, your Constitution of Islamic Republic of Pakistan (65 years later) still treating them as 2nd class citizens is whats so wrong about it. As a matter of fact, there is nothing "right" about anything.

Here is a slap on your face maty..
(Not) forced conversions: Women converts choose spouses – The Express Tribune
Daily Times - Leading News Resource of Pakistan
 
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Well they are free ticket for india for media lime light and .....ooooh we are so desirable ... propaganda? and that all for free..so why deport them..basque in the lime light and leave them on the streets?

Why they are allowing themselves to be free ticket? They are not locked up anywhere in India with 24 hr surveillance. They can easily go to Pak embassy & take refuge there. It would be any opertunity for Pak as well to show to the world how evil the country called India is.
 
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thank god they are migrating to india

Pak Hindu family exhumed girl's body after objections

ISLAMABAD: A Hindu family had to exhume the body of a little girl it had mistakenly buried in a Muslim graveyard in the Pakistani garrison city of Rawalpindi and rebury it in an adjacent Christian cemetery after objections from Muslims.

The Hindu family exhumed the girl's body from Ratta Amral graveyard on Tuesday night under tight security and reburied it in the adjoining cemetery.

The girl's family, which lives in The Mall area of Rawalpindi, are Balmeki Hindus, some of whom bury their dead instead of cremating them.

"When we buried our Summan Prem (in the Muslim graveyard) on October 1, 2009, we mistakenly thought it was the Christian graveyard," an uncle of the girl told the Dawn newspaper, tears rolling down his cheeks as he remembered his niece who would have turned 10 this year.

"We did not want to cause any controversy, or annoy anyone. If the (graveyard management) committee does not want us Hindus to bury their dead here, we won't," he said.

Summan's father, Prem Kishan, was spared the pain of exhuming his daughter's body as he was away in Sukkur in Sindh province to attend the funeral of his nephew.

The girl's Hindu ancestry became known after her family put a tombstone bearing her name and Hindu mantras on her grave.

"Tongues started wagging at this 'sacrilege' and agitated Muslim clerics and visitors to the Ratta Amral graveyard raised the issue with the graveyard's managing committee," the Dawn reported.

The Muslims accused the management of negligence and threatened to stop burying their dead in the graveyard unless it was "purified" by removing the non-Muslim's body.

Alarmed by the anger that the grave was causing, the management requested her family to move her out of the Muslim graveyard.

"We were not aware of the Hindu burial. Clerics and people of the area brought it to our notice and their reaction made us request the family to remove (the body) to the adjacent Christian graveyard," said Mohammad Mohsin Mir, chairman of Ratta Amral graveyard management committee.

There are many graves of lower caste Hindus in the Christian cemetery, which had been separated from the Muslim graveyard, Mir said.

"It was a mistake for the grave digger to assume that Summan was a Muslim. Otherwise the management committee is well aware that non-Muslims could not be buried in our graveyard," he said.

Hafiz Iqbal Rizvi, a senior cleric in Rawalpindi, said Shariah or Islamic law does not allow the burial of non-Muslims in Muslim graveyards.

District Peace Committee chairman Maulana Izhar Hussain Shah Bukhari blamed the burial of the Hindu girl in Ratta Amral graveyard on the management and the grave digger who did not register the names of the dead brought to the graveyard.

Pak Hindu family exhumed girl's body after objections - Times Of India
 
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^^^ well yeah..they families are persisting on forcing their bigotry on the Girls,,But they have made their choice already....
No matter how many law suits they file,the girls will remain Muslim,remain withe the men they love out of their own choice..Multiple times said by the girls in front of media...

Anyway..Th ethread is exausted now and repeating itself..and going off track..
Try not to argue with me in Future,i can be a beetch at times ;)
 
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^^^ well yeah..they families are persisting on forcing their bigotry on the Girls,,But they have made their choice already....
No matter how many law suits they file,the girls will remain Muslim,remain withe the men they love out of their own choice..Multiple times said by the girls in front of media...

Anyway..Th ethread is exausted now and repeating itself..and going off track..
Try not to argue with me in Future,i can be a beetch at times ;)

you are just trolling without supporting any of your arguments, thanks for leaving the thread.
 
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