Government and TLP reach agreement to end countrywide protests

[Umair Nawaz]

So we should wait for another episode to clean it up?

mujhe b lift kra do! main b khadim hussain rizvi ban jao ga warna!

 

[Lincoln]

Yeah good job... I will ask them to check your geolocation and let me know.. you won't be allowed to abuse the state of Pakistan

Now you are calling for the person to be Dox'd, surely this goes beyond all boundaries.

@Oscar @Horus

 

[war&peace]

mujhe b lift kra do! main b khadim hussain rizvi ban jao ga warna!

Hey, man why you have to be so creepy... Is this is a time for your perverseness. We are having a serious discussion and you are here with your tharak...

 

[Samlee]

Its good sanity has prevailed, but the ones who have caused loss of damage to properties should be prosecuted.

I Think Video Footage Should Be Reviewed and Miscreants Be Arrested

 

[Moonlight]

We have to compare...….. And USA in 60s was more worse then Pak now...…. and very recently people destroyed cities in USA ……
And on Molvi Part...….. I don't think it will end here...… He crossed some dark red lines..... But also remember IK ,NS , Zordari , Fazlo , Altaf ….. all of them crossed line at some point too...
Only situation is cooling down...…. I feel pain in molvis right after IK speech …… Have you not notice how so called political parties come out in molvi favor ……. Have you not listen Meter reader turn billionaire Khursheed shaha… Molvi diesel …….

A comparison with first world country and a third world country? Where even educated act like illiterate?

 

[Moonlight]

Hey, man why you have to be so creepy... Is this is a time for your perverseness. We are having a serious discussion and you are here with your tharak...

Thank you.

 

[hussain0216]

So we should wait for another episode to clean it up?

No, we need to prepare the state for such incidents

This takes time

This was not a issue of state v TLP, if it were they would have been hammered

Its a issue of PTI government versus
TLP
Assorted Mullahs like fazlu
PPP
PMLN
PTM
RANDOM STREET MORONS
foreign agencies
Etc
Etc
Etc

Too many vested interests all wanting chaos and war

Lets be clear
MOST of the protests were fine
Most were within democratic lines and peacefull

We had some of the usual 3rd world crazyness but rather then a government hounded by numerous threats to go bat shit crazy, the situation was bought under control

Now going forward we need a proper internal security strategy in place for the next five years

 

[Indus Pakistan]

I think this is perhaps the most potent analysis...

I would say the following with it.

The government hasn't conceded any ground from their initial stand. They repeatedly wanted to solve this without violence and without having to concede ground like resignations e.t.c. it is a positive. The review petition was already filed and its the right of the complainant to file it and during such proceedings a person can't be allowed to leave. Normally here is how review work. You have a preliminary hearing where you highlight what is the wrong in the judgment after which in 99% cases the review is thrown aside bcz a serious oversight of fact or law is required to convince the very judge that has made the decision ( the hearing review bench is the same is the same as the one in order).. If accepted then the case is reopened and hearings and arguments are heard on that overlooked fact or law.

The thing is that as you said its a time buyer. For now they have been removed from the streets but this is temporary bcz come the next decision they will be back. The time bought has not solved the issue however this time bought must not be and serious effort should be placed to take them down slowly and surely and precisely.


A strong hand action can only be given by a govt secure in its power, unity and public. The current govt and the last one were neither and this is where @Indus Pakistan highlights the point very correctly as to why the govt irrespective of their strength and position in parliament keep bowing down to any religious group protesting... Its bcz they have no faith in the opposition nor in the state organs nor in the public. lal masjid is perhaps it's greatest example and it to this day plays in the mind of our rulers.

All in all. The result of this truce can only he found in how the govt avails the time provided in this delaying tactics.

One thing is for sure. Complacency cannot be tolerated this time. The country be shut down through systemic protests by a few hundreds in a city across Pakistan. It simply can't. This must end and the govt must look into this matter. Today they apologize for their harsh words against state and its organs. Tomorrow they may go further and further... .

For once let's not be reactionary and be proactive..

Sigh... Well atleast the rubbish ends.. Haha I said the same thing in 2017. Deja vu.

And here is the rub. The british state when it interacts with it's citizens day to day is so soft and 'cuddly'. Young female police officers walking around unarmed chatting with kids and old people. You get your car pulled up and it will be formalties without any threats or pushing around. But try to threaten the state and within minutes you will face the iron fist. And it will take you down. You can run but you can't escape. But then there is almost 100% consensus in UK. You can hold any opinion and say anything but never threaten the state.

 

[Yankee-stani]

Actually that mechanical iron fist narrative is not just WASP [UK, USA, Canada etc] but is applicable to others -

Germans
French
Russians
Japanese
Chinese
Turks

Note all are successful states that had history of conquest and empire making. In the muslim world only Turkey displays this character. Ask any of the Turks what would Jandarma do to anybody pissing like Rizvi et al .....

Turks are not the only ones Iranians and Persians have the same mindset somewhat

 

[war&peace]

na kr na yera masti krny dy na!

You are impossible ... Bhai there are some other threads for this purpose called whatever.. BTW..if she feels uncomfortable with you then what's the point. Bhai try on someone else...may be this boat has left. Just imagine how would you behave if someone teases your real sister?

 

[Amaa'n]

the government has bought time but it wont end the problem.

call me an extremist but we need to bomb these rallies ....if you recall couple of years back i had said the same thing....this lot is beyond saving.....they are deaf, their brain is dead, they can read, they can't see......you cannot save then....time to save the country and the rest of the public from this menance ---- time to do Black ops, execution style....

 

[CHACHA"G"]

A comparison with first world country and a third world country? Where even educated act like illiterate?

So people on USA streets and UK streets are not educated??????? dear sister , moob mentality almost remain same.... all over the world...…. some how it is still better in Pakistan...…
But yes I fully agree with you all those lotters deserve 5 years in jail for damaging properties..... and I am very hopeful this will happen...….

 

[Indus Pakistan]

I will help you with this list:

• Destroy TLP leadership
• Destroy Lal Masjid and its leadership
• Remove JUI and JI from politics
• Ban politics of religion
• Reform madrassahs - make them an after school extra curricular activity not a full time education pathway.
• Reform Islamic education in schools
• Deport all Afghan refugees

Go hire Turkish Jandarma, resusitate Ataturk/Hitler bring back Waffen SS and then have a go .....

 

[war&peace]

Thank you.

Our difference aside.. but respect is a common denominator especially if it involves fairer gender.

 

[Yankee-stani]

call me an extremist but we need to bomb these rallies ....if you recall couple of years back i had said the same thing....this lot is beyond saving.....they are deaf, their brain is dead, they can read, they can't see......you cannot save then....time to save the country and the rest of the public from this menance ---- time to do Black ops, execution style....

Thats on my mind too but risk of Civil War tho