Gorshkov to be handed over to India by Dec '12

[Masterchief]

India invested nearly 3 billion$ (not included2-3 billion$ mig-29k deal) on AC which can carry only 12-16 fighter jets.


If i have com i will definitely take risk with 10-12 fighters to destroy this white elephant.

1 JF-17 with EW pods.
2 mirages with Harpoons
2 JF-17 with C-802A
5 jets for escort and to engage Mig-29Ks.

our anti aircraft missiles and sukhois will not be peeing when you attack and india invested because india can easily afford it, feeling jealous ha of our achivements

 

[CONNAN]

India invested nearly 3 billion$ (not included2-3 billion$ mig-29k deal) on AC which can carry only 12-16 fighter jets.


If i have com i will definitely take risk with 10-12 fighters to destroy this white elephant.

1 JF-17 with EW pods.
2 mirages with Harpoons
2 JF-17 with C-802A
5 jets for escort and to engage Mig-29Ks.

dude carrier will never be alone and it will never be in a striking position of enemies airforce

 

[flanker143]

India invested nearly 3 billion$ (not included2-3 billion$ mig-29k deal) on AC which can carry only 12-16 fighter jets.


If i have com i will definitely take risk with 10-12 fighters to destroy this white elephant.

1 JF-17 with EW pods.
2 mirages with Harpoons
2 JF-17 with C-802A
5 jets for escort and to engage Mig-29Ks.

ever heard of something called CARRIER BATTLE "GROUP" !!!!!

 

[jha]

India invested nearly 3 billion$ (not included2-3 billion$ mig-29k deal) on AC which can carry only 12-16 fighter jets.


If i have com i will definitely take risk with 10-12 fighters to destroy this white elephant.

1 JF-17 with EW pods.
2 mirages with Harpoons
2 JF-17 with C-802A
5 jets for escort and to engage Mig-29Ks.

And this particular post gives an insight on your grip on the subject

 

[QADRI]

our anti aircraft missiles and sukhois will not be peeing when you attack and india invested because india can easily afford it, feeling jealous ha of our achivements

ya you can afford because you are investing almost 90 percent of your huge economy into defence, leaving 70 percent of your population bleow poverty line.

plz now don't start giving those baised links to prove me wrong..

 

[Dash]

please check this

Even DID reported the same scrutiny by CAG in 2009.
However it looks like they want the Barak 2 in the ship and until then Barak 1 will be there

 

[Dash]

India invested nearly 3 billion$ (not included2-3 billion$ mig-29k deal) on AC which can carry only 12-16 fighter jets.


If i have com i will definitely take risk with 10-12 fighters to destroy this white elephant.

1 JF-17 with EW pods.
2 mirages with Harpoons
2 JF-17 with C-802A
5 jets for escort and to engage Mig-29Ks.

Fox -
looks like you are a new troller. But this is an SME thread, so please post your views in Jf-17 thread.

Thank you

 

[Dash]

ya you can afford because you are investing almost 90 percent of your huge economy into defence, leaving 70 percent of your population bleow poverty line.

plz now don't start giving those baised links to prove me wrong..

PLease give your suggestions in Indian economy thread.

 

[QADRI]

PLease give your suggestions in Indian economy thread.

why?????? don't you read the post i quoted....?

 

[CAPTAIN AMERICA]

Russian Honey-Trap May Have Affected Aircraft Carrier Deal With India -- Intel News


The recent court disclosure of an Indian engineer’s affair with a Russian woman has added fresh controversy in a multi-billion dollar deal gone sour between Russia and India, over the purchase of an aircraft carrier. In 2004, India purchased Admiral Gorshkov, a Soviet-built, 45,000-ton warship, for $974 million. But the negotiations between the two countries over the refit and repair project quickly deteriorated, with Sevmash Enterprise, the Russian shipyard in charge of the project, hiking the price twice in less than three years. At the end of fierce negotiations that scarred the bilateral defense relationship between the two countries, the Indian Navy was forced to pay in excess of $2.3 billion for the 30-year-old warship. In recent weeks, however, a series of explicit photographs were circulated, showing an unidentified Russian woman with Commodore Sukhjinder Singh, an Indian engineer whom the Indian Navy stationed in Russia and tasked him with overseeing Admiral Gorshkov’s refit from 2005 to 2007.
War News Updates: Did Russia Use Sex To Sell An Aircraft Carrier To India?

Its about the only thing that makes sense to me.

 

[sudhir007]

Even DID reported the same scrutiny by CAG in 2009.
However it looks like they want the Barak 2 in the ship and until then Barak 1 will be there

No it will come up with CADS-N-1 Kashtan CIWS

The combat modules are typically made up of two GSh-30k (AO-18K) six-barrelled 30 mm gatling guns, fed by a link-less feeding mechanism, and two SA-N-11 launchers equipped with 4 ready-to-fire missiles each and fed by a reloading system storing 32 missiles in ready-to-launch containers.

The combination of the missiles and guns, provides more comprehensive protection when compared to other CIWS utilizing either missiles or guns only. The effective range of the missiles is 1,500–8,000 meters up to an altitude of 3,500 m. The engagement range of the guns is 500–4,000 m, up to an altitude of 3,000 m. The guns have a combined rate of fire around 10,000 rpm, and the reloading time for a group of 4 missiles is 90 seconds.

Statistics

* Target altitude from 500 m to 3,500 m
* Maximum speed - rocket: 600 m/s - 900 m/s
* Number of targets engaged simultaneously: up to 6
* Reaction Time: 6-8 Seconds
* Rate of fire: 10,000–12,000 rds/min
* Cartridge types: 30 mm with HE-Frag, Frag-T, HEI, APT, AP, and CC(Cargo Carrying)
* Weight: (turret only, naval versions)
o Kashtan: 15,500 kg with ammunition and control systems
o Palash/Palma: 6,900 kg with ammunition and control systems

 

[SEAL]

ever heard of something called CARRIER BATTLE "GROUP" !!!!!

Yes i do what India have in carrier battle group few ships equipped with Baraks and Russian SAM and their range is not more than 50km
whereas C-802A range is 180km and harpoon range is also 150km+ and both these missiles are highly accurate.

 

[whocares]

why exactly do we need a carrier? point me to a thread if one is already there.

thanks

 

[jha]

Yes i do what India have in carrier battle group few ships equipped with Baraks and Russian SAM and their range is not more than 50km
whereas C-802A range is 180km and harpoon range is also 150km+ and both these missiles are highly accurate.

Again an expert comment..
Do you have any idea what comprises a CBG and what will the CBG of VIKRAMADITYA will have...???

 

[Devianz]

ya you can afford because you are investing almost 90 percent of your huge economy into defence, leaving 70 percent of your population bleow poverty line.

plz now don't start giving those baised links to prove me wrong..

Yes South Asia is poor...
25% Indians, 24% Pakistanis, 36% Bangladeshis and 23% Sri Lankans live under poverty line according to CIA Factbook. But what is the need of bringing it up in each and every thread?