GoP and IMF are Resposible for load Shedding

[waraich66]

Electricity produced in Pakistan is from three main sources.

1). Hydral
2). Thermal (Gas/Steam/Furnace Oil)
3). Nuclear

There are four major power producers in country which include Water & Power Development Authority (WAPDA), Karachi Electric Supply Company (KESC), Independent Power Producers (IPPs) and Pakistan Atomic Energy Commission (PAEC).

Below is the break-up of the installed capacity of each of these power producers (as of June-2008).

1). WAPDA

a). WAPDA Hydal
Terbela 3478 MW
Mangla 1000 MW
Ghazi-Brotha 1450 MW
Warsak 243 MW
Chashma 184 MW
Dargai 20 MW
Rasul 22 MW
Shadi-Waal 18 MW
NandiPur 14 MW
Kurram Garhi 4 MW
Renala 1 MW
Chitral 1 MW Jagran (AK) 30 MW
Total Hydal ==> 6461 MW

b). WAPDA Thermal
Gas Turbine Power Station, Shadra 59 MW
Steam Power Station, Faisalabad 132 MW
Gas Turbine Power Station, Faisalabad 244 MW
Gas Power Station, Multan 195 MW
Thermal Power Station, Muzaffargarh 1350 MW
Thermal Power Station, Guddu 1655 MW
Gas Turbine Power Station, Kotri 174 MW
Thermal Power Station, Jamshoro 850 MW
Thermal Power Station, Larkana 150 MW
Thermal Power Station, Quetta 35 MW
Gas Turbine Power Station, Panjgur 39 MW
Thermal Power Station, Pasni 17 MW
Total Thermal ==> 4811 MW

WAPDA's Total Hydal + Thermal capacity is 11272 MW.

2). Karachi Electric Supply Company
Thermal Power Station, Korengi 316 MW
Gas Turbine Power Station, Korengi 80 MW
Gas Turbine Power Station, SITE 100 MW
Thermal Power Station, Bin Qasim 1260 MW
Total (KESC) ==> 1756 MW


3). Independent Power Producers (IPPs)
Hub Power Project 1292 MW
AES Lalpir Ltd, Mahmood Kot MuzaffarGarh 362 MW
AES Pak Gen, Mahmood Kot MuzaffarGarh 365 MW
Altern Energy Ltd, Attock 29 MW
Fauji KabirWala Power Company, Khanewal 157 MW
Gul Ahmad Energy Ltd, Korengi 136 MW
Habibullah Coastal Power Ltd 140 MW
Japan Power Generation, Lahore 120 MW
Koh-e-Noor Energy Ltd, Lahore 131 MW
Liberty Power Limited, Ghotki 232 MW
Rousch Power, Khaniwal 412 MW
Saba Power Company, Sheikhpura 114 MW
Southern Electric Power Company Ltd, Raiwind 135 MW
Tapal Energy Limited, Karachi 126 MW
Uch Power Ltd, Dera Murad Jamali, Nasirabad 586 MW
Attock Gen Ltd, Morgah Rawalpindi 165 MW
Atlas Power, Sheikhpura 225 MW
Engro Energy Ltd, Karachi ----- MW
Kot Addu Power Company Limited (Privitized) 1638 MW

Total (IPPs) => 6365 MW

4). Pakistan Atomic Energy Commission
KANUPP 137 MW
CHASNUPP-1 325 MW
Total (Nuclear) ===> 462 MW

Hydal Electricity generated by WAPDA varies between two extremities i.e. between minimum of 2414 MW and maximum of 6761 MW depending upon the river flow through the whole year.

Total Power Generation Capacity of Pakistan (including all sources) is 19855 MW and the electricity demand (as of today 20-04-2010) is 14500 MW and PEPCO is merely generating 10000 MW.

So it is obvious that these 15-20 hrs power shutdowns in most parts of the country are not because of the lack of generation capacity but only because of IMF / World Bank policies imposed on our nation by Govt. The Power Generation companies are not buying Furnace Oil from PSO by saying they donโ€�t have money to do that but we are all paying for Electricity that is generated from Furnace Oil. This is the reason that top refineries like PRL are operating at 40% capacities. IMF / World bank has imposed to reduce budget deficit by importing less crude oil. But due to this fact all our industries are under severe crisis. None of our political party who are in Assembly is ready to speak on it because every one is blessed by US / IMF / World Bank.

Dear Pakistaniโ€�s,

This is a time to show your social activism your power and strength. It is your silence which is deafening and your couldnโ€�t care less attitude which makes the people in power more powerful evasive and secure in their Air conditioned offices.

PLEASE STAND UP AND BE COUNTED:



WE WANT ELECTRICITY IN PAKISTAN .

Electricity now is @11 Rs. per unit, and it will increase after every two months as directed by (American) IMF policies.



Also CHINA offers to Pakistan Electricity for just Rs.300 Monthly Bill and Unlimited Usage of Electricity but our government is not taking the offer seriously. This is because there will be neither kick backs nor any commissions to be pocketed by the strong mafia of politicians and bureaucrats.
These people are there because of your votes. Let them serve you rather than rule youโ€ฆโ€ฆ
NOW THIS IS OUR TIME TO SHOW THE GOVERNMENT YOUR STRENGTH.

 

[Solomon2]

Yahya! It's been a long time. Nice to see you!

If the IMF and World Bank are giving trouble with financing oil purchases, why not ask some of the Saudis is Madina for assistance? They have oodles of dough AND oil!

 

[sparklingway]

Ever heard of the terms circular debt and bankruptcy? Perhaps you still thinks that companies operate by paying each other in cash through their wallets. Every sane person knows the reasons. Eliminate subsidies and only then will IPPs generate at full capacity. Stop your pointless blabbering.

Also CHINA offers to Pakistan Electricity for just Rs.300 Monthly Bill and Unlimited Usage of Electricity but our government is not taking the offer seriously. This is because there will be neither kick backs nor any commissions to be pocketed by the strong mafia of politicians and bureaucrats.

Visible sign of mental retardation and peanut brain syndrome.

I don't mean to be offensive but this was may too much BS and illiteracy to tolerate.

 

[Neither Right Nor Wrong]

Electricity produced in Pakistan is from three main sources.

1). Hydral
2). Thermal (Gas/Steam/Furnace Oil)
3). Nuclear

There are four major power producers in country which include Water & Power Development Authority (WAPDA), Karachi Electric Supply Company (KESC), Independent Power Producers (IPPs) and Pakistan Atomic Energy Commission (PAEC).

Below is the break-up of the installed capacity of each of these power producers (as of June-2008).

1). WAPDA

a). WAPDA Hydal
Terbela 3478 MW
Mangla 1000 MW
Ghazi-Brotha 1450 MW
Warsak 243 MW
Chashma 184 MW
Dargai 20 MW
Rasul 22 MW
Shadi-Waal 18 MW
NandiPur 14 MW
Kurram Garhi 4 MW
Renala 1 MW
Chitral 1 MW Jagran (AK) 30 MW
Total Hydal ==> 6461 MW

b). WAPDA Thermal
Gas Turbine Power Station, Shadra 59 MW
Steam Power Station, Faisalabad 132 MW
Gas Turbine Power Station, Faisalabad 244 MW
Gas Power Station, Multan 195 MW
Thermal Power Station, Muzaffargarh 1350 MW
Thermal Power Station, Guddu 1655 MW
Gas Turbine Power Station, Kotri 174 MW
Thermal Power Station, Jamshoro 850 MW
Thermal Power Station, Larkana 150 MW
Thermal Power Station, Quetta 35 MW
Gas Turbine Power Station, Panjgur 39 MW
Thermal Power Station, Pasni 17 MW
Total Thermal ==> 4811 MW

WAPDA's Total Hydal + Thermal capacity is 11272 MW.

2). Karachi Electric Supply Company
Thermal Power Station, Korengi 316 MW
Gas Turbine Power Station, Korengi 80 MW
Gas Turbine Power Station, SITE 100 MW
Thermal Power Station, Bin Qasim 1260 MW
Total (KESC) ==> 1756 MW


3). Independent Power Producers (IPPs)
Hub Power Project 1292 MW
AES Lalpir Ltd, Mahmood Kot MuzaffarGarh 362 MW
AES Pak Gen, Mahmood Kot MuzaffarGarh 365 MW
Altern Energy Ltd, Attock 29 MW
Fauji KabirWala Power Company, Khanewal 157 MW
Gul Ahmad Energy Ltd, Korengi 136 MW
Habibullah Coastal Power Ltd 140 MW
Japan Power Generation, Lahore 120 MW
Koh-e-Noor Energy Ltd, Lahore 131 MW
Liberty Power Limited, Ghotki 232 MW
Rousch Power, Khaniwal 412 MW
Saba Power Company, Sheikhpura 114 MW
Southern Electric Power Company Ltd, Raiwind 135 MW
Tapal Energy Limited, Karachi 126 MW
Uch Power Ltd, Dera Murad Jamali, Nasirabad 586 MW
Attock Gen Ltd, Morgah Rawalpindi 165 MW
Atlas Power, Sheikhpura 225 MW
Engro Energy Ltd, Karachi ----- MW
Kot Addu Power Company Limited (Privitized) 1638 MW

Total (IPPs) => 6365 MW

4). Pakistan Atomic Energy Commission
KANUPP 137 MW
CHASNUPP-1 325 MW
Total (Nuclear) ===> 462 MW

Hydal Electricity generated by WAPDA varies between two extremities i.e. between minimum of 2414 MW and maximum of 6761 MW depending upon the river flow through the whole year.

Total Power Generation Capacity of Pakistan (including all sources) is 19855 MW and the electricity demand (as of today 20-04-2010) is 14500 MW and PEPCO is merely generating 10000 MW.

Due to aging of the generator equipment , generating capacity of equipment is much less than iinstalled capacity

So it is obvious that these 15-20 hrs power shutdowns in most parts of the country are not because of the lack of generation capacity but only because of IMF / World Bank policies imposed on our nation by Govt. The Power Generation companies are not buying Furnace Oil from PSO by saying they donโ€�t have money to do that but we are all paying for Electricity that is generated from Furnace Oil. This is the reason that top refineries like PRL are operating at 40% capacities. IMF / World bank has imposed to reduce budget deficit by importing less crude oil. But due to this fact all our industries are under severe crisis. None of our political party who are in Assembly is ready to speak on it because every one is blessed by US / IMF / World Bank.


Electricity now is @11 Rs. per unit, and it will increase after every two months as directed by (American) IMF policies.

Only "IMF policy" your govt is following is...increase in electricity tariff
by 6% + 12 % + 6% in last one year..this is to remove the subsidy being offered on electricity.

Electricity production was down due to circular debt..hence elec. company does not have enough money to pay for oil.


Also CHINA offers to Pakistan Electricity for just Rs.300 Monthly Bill and Unlimited Usage of Electricity but our government is not taking the offer seriously. This is because there will be neither kick backs nor any commissions to be pocketed by the strong mafia of politicians and bureaucrats.
These people are there because of your votes. Let them serve you rather than rule youโ€ฆโ€ฆ
NOW THIS IS OUR TIME TO SHOW THE GOVERNMENT YOUR STRENGTH.

300 Rs unlimited usage.. Kya Boss.. electricity connection dey rahein ya Internet connection??
going to need some sources.

 

[Capt.Popeye]

Electricity produced in Pakistan is from three main sources.


Also CHINA offers to Pakistan Electricity for just Rs.300 Monthly Bill and Unlimited Usage of Electricity but our government is not taking the offer seriously. This is because there will be neither kick backs nor any commissions to be pocketed by the strong mafia of politicians and bureaucrats.

Sounds too good! Better watch out, Indians may want to migrate.

 

[Evil Flare]

Lolz Internet Connection Rs 300 per month

 

[Ras]

Yahya! It's been a long time. Nice to see you!

If the IMF and World Bank are giving trouble with financing oil purchases, why not ask some of the Saudis is Madina for assistance? They have oodles of dough AND oil!

That is a good idea!

 

[waraich66]

Ever heard of the terms circular debt and bankruptcy? Perhaps you still thinks that companies operate by paying each other in cash through their wallets. Every sane person knows the reasons. Eliminate subsidies and only then will IPPs generate at full capacity. Stop your pointless blabbering.



Visible sign of mental retardation and peanut brain syndrome.

I don't mean to be offensive but this was may too much BS and illiteracy to tolerate.

Do you know the terms and conditions on which PPP government did agreement with IPP(HUBCO etc)?????

Please read below article before starting baseless personal attackes

By critically examining all the so called "causes" of high cost of electricity, this article establishes that it is the escalation in fuel costs due to GoP’s petroleum taxes, increase in debt costs due to depreciation and increase in all other costs due to inflation is the reason d’être for higher electricity prices in Pakistan. Top that off with WAPDA’s ever increasing surcharges levied to recoup losses from production inefficiencies and we have the reason for expensive electricity in Pakistan. None of these factors are caused by or are under the control of IPPs and consequently blaming them for high electricity prices is incorrect and results only in diverting blame from the real contributory forces, namely, GoP & WAPDA.

DR. ANJUM SIDDIQUI
http://www.pakistaneconomist.com/issue1999/issue38/cover.htm

For you i can only say "Little knowledge is dangrous "

 

[waraich66]

Lolz Internet Connection Rs 300 per month

It is possible if Pakistan build new Dams,Nuke power stations and solar and wind power projects

http://www.tbl.com.pk/the-feasibility-of-renewable-energy-in-pakistan/

 

[apophenia]

It is possible if Pakistan build new Dams,Nuke power stations and solar and wind power projects

The Feasibility of Renewable Energy in Pakistan | Triple Bottom Line Magazine

By any stretch of imagination that’s not possible. Building dams, nuclear reactors and use of renewable energy doesn’t come cheap and will only accumulate in expanding the circular debt. Unless GoP deals with the economics of power generation by addresses the core issue of growing circular debt, it is impossible to imagine the IPPs’ fully utilizing their existing installed capacity.

 

[sparklingway]

By any stretch of imagination that’s not possible. Building dams, nuclear reactors and use of renewable energy doesn’t come cheap and will only accumulate in expanding the circular debt. Unless GoP deals with the economics of power generation by addresses the core issue of growing circular debt, it is impossible to imagine the IPPs’ fully utilizing their existing installed capacity.

Most people cannot understand, even now, that solar costs a gajillion dollars per MW, Wind is being installed at a slow pace as it also requires very heavy investment and the nuclear is the best option but it has many hurdles and takes a lot of time. For many, electricity generation for country is like buying a 5KW generator from the a hardware store.

Until and unless you treat this "jahiliya", there is no hope for a public understanding.

The only way to eliminate the ciruclar debt (which has been reduced significantly) si to eliminate the subsidies. It is time that the media starts portraying the escalation in electricity prices as "reduction of subsidies" rather than "bijli mahengi kar di". A major problem with removing subsidies is the actual perception of their removal. Rather than being portrayed as "removal" of an "assistance", it is always portrayed as an "increase". While in actuality, it is an increased burden on the consumer's wallet but the perception is that somehow the government has added to the price while in actuality it only removes its assistance. The media's portrayal of removal of subsidies is a very big factor and can be used to eliminate the largely negative public opinion in the wake of the removal of subsidies. While we can most definitely argue that removal of subsidies on electricity effect the poor and lower income groups adversely, for we do not provide subsidies according to usage rather it is provided uniformly (through GENCOs). This uniform subsidy allocation is itself a very serious problem but the larger question is whether we can continue to dole out subsidies to reduce economic pressure on the consumers.

Providing enormous subsidies is not only is a strain on the government but it does not make the consumer realize the actual cost of the commodity. For example, electricity subsidy paid out last year stood at a colossal Rs. 179.526 Billion. Subsidies stood at 1.5% of GDP last year, after being revised from an earlier figure of 0.9% of GDP, the reason being that the proposed removals of subsidies are delayed/canceled owing to public pressure.

 

[apophenia]

speculating on topics riddle with dynamic consideration always ends with something incoherent and misleading. Media and bloggers shouldn’t go shooting their mouths off and pretending like it’s so freaking easy. We would all be better off if we just ignored these clowns.

 

[Fracker]

So far China 300/meter from China concern, i heard alot about this.. but i don't think this can be true.

Ok let we say Government is removing subsidy for increase the cost of the electricity. I have a question, which government actually introduces these IPPs on the top, when one Unit was for 5 Rupee (in 1996) and government made agreement with these IPP for 7 rupees? Also when Only wapda, KESC and PAEC generate around 95% of all people needs i.e. 13490. Then why these IPPs are effecting so much on the power tariff?

This is only because our corrupt leader done some agreements with Some big giants in IPPS. Wapda is backng this because they also have their own intrest in this.

 

[maithil]

Rs. 300 for a no limit connection...hahahahaha

Another dreamer...