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Haha probably not. China has a huge talent pool and a more sophisticated software industry.
Well See This. It doesnt go well with ur statement.
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Haha probably not. China has a huge talent pool and a more sophisticated software industry.
some very simple things, google (i used it often) does not have the power nor wealth to demand the chinese government to do anything, by announcing they could pull out publicly its basically over for them in china, the CCP will never bow to such external pressure when it has very little to lose in keeping the censors. though google maket right now is small in china a few million profit a year vs billions globally, this incident will make it extremely hard should they would to go back to china in the future.
Someone finally said it.
A security consulting firm that Google brought in to investigate an attack last month the one that compromised the Gmail accounts of two Chinese political activists told Computerworld today that they believe the attack code was designed and launched with support from Chinese authorities.
Yahoo was also a target of the same attack, the Wall Street Journal reported on Friday afternoon.
This explains the involvement of the U.S. State Department, which met with Chinese diplomats this week. The department is drafting a formal denouncement which will put the heat directly on Premier Wen Jiabao to conduct an investigation.
Mandiant, a security incident response and forensics firm based in Washington, D.C., worked with Google to reverse-engineer the attack. Carlos Carrillo, a principal consultant with the firm, spoke to Computerworlds Gregg Keizer on Friday:
Carrillo was the project manager for the Google investigation. During an interview Friday, he frequently chose his words carefully, saying that there was much he couldnt discuss because the work was ongoing.
The malware was unique, Carrillo said. It had unique characteristics it was lets just say it was unique.
When asked if the code quality pointed toward Chinese state support, Carrillo answered, I would say so.
It now appears that for some weeks, Google may have had ample evidence that the Chinese government was behind the break-ins, and that the State Department confronted Chinese authorities with that evidence.
The US state department says it will make a formal protest to China over alleged cyber-attacks on the internet search giant, Google.
A spokesman said the US would demand an explanation in the coming days.
Google this week threatened to pull out of China because of what it said were hacking attacks and censorship; Beijing has tried to play down the threat.
Another US internet giant, Yahoo, is also reported to have been targeted by hackers in China.
"We will be issuing a formal demarche to the Chinese government in Beijing on this issue in the coming days," said state department spokesperson PJ Crowley.
"It will express our concern for this incident and request information from China as to an explanation of how it happened and what they plan to do about it."
There are also reports that Yahoo, another US search engine, had noticed it had been a target of Chinese hacking attacks, prior to Google's public acknowledgment of its own fears.
However, Yahoo has not given any official confirmation of this.
'Open' internet
In response to Google's concerns, China has said that foreign internet firms are welcome to do business there "according to the law".
Google had stated that cyber-attacks originating in China aimed at rights activists, and increased web censorship, might force it to end its China operations.
Jiang Yu, a Chinese foreign ministry spokeswoman, insisted the internet was "open" in China.
Google announced late on Tuesday that it was no longer willing to censor its Chinese search engine - google.cn.
China's internet is open and the Chinese government encourages development of the internet Jiang Yu, Chinese foreign ministry spokeswoman
The search engine said it would hold talks with the government in the coming weeks to look at operating an unfiltered search engine within the law in the country, though no changes to filtering have yet been made.
When Google launched google.cn in 2006, it agreed to censor some search results - such as the 1989 Tiananmen Square protests, Tibetan independence or Falun Gong - as required by the Chinese government.
Google currently holds about one-third of the Chinese search market, far behind Chinese rival Baidu, which has more than 60%.
China has more internet users - about 350 million - than any other country and provides a lucrative search engine market worth an estimated $1bn (£614m) last year.
The CEO of Microsoft has said that the software giant had no plans to pull out of China, and played down Google's fears.
"I don't understand how that helps anything. I don't understand how that helps us and I don't understand how that helps China," said Steve Ballmer.
"There are attacks every day. I don't think there was anything unusual," Mr Ballmer added.
By Wesley Pruden
OPINION/ANALYSIS:
Once upon a time the city desk at the morning newspaper was the place to call to settle bets. A city desk could expect a flurry of calls just before the bars closed. Who was Ruth Roman's first husband? Who won the 1937 Rose Bowl? What was the real name of the last Curley of the Three Stooges?
Nobody much calls city desks any longer -- desk men, like everyone else, hide behind voice mail -- and now it's Google that usually tells the curious minds who want to know that Miss Roman's first husband was Mortimer Hall, that Pittsburgh defeated Washington 21 to 0 in the 1937 Rose Bowl and the last of three actors who played Curley was Joe Besser.
But Google is important for other things, too, as China learned when the popular search engine told Beijing that it would no longer participate as a censor and would, if need be, leave the Middle Kingdom altogether. No more lies by omission.
Shortly after it officially told the Chinese to buzz off, the Google Web site answered questions about the infamous massacre at Tiananmen Square and other "sensitive" events the Chinese government pretends never happened and tries to punish anyone who doesn't play its game. Google even got an assist from Hillary Clinton, the secretary of state, who is said to be throwing her weight, such as it is, behind the campaign against China's suppression of speech (and thought). She has already met with executives of Google and its rival, Microsoft, and Cisco Systems, one of the designers of the Chinese Internet technology to talk about how to deal with China's war on free inquiry.
The Google decision is remarkable because big corporations rarely put principle above profit, or even appear to, and indeed Google's decision is probably good business in the long run. Google's business in China lags far behind the Beijing government's own search engine, which it keeps on a short leash. In China, no news is good news.
Nevertheless, after Google's announcement a steady stream of Chinese Internet users appeared at the Google headquarters in Beijing to lay flowers on the company's colorful logo arrayed on the front lawn.
Wei Jing-sheng, the Chinese dissident who lives in exile in the United States after spending 18 years in a Chinese prison cell for speaking against his government's abuse of human rights, applauded Google for taking "an important step" to protect such rights online. "Through international pressure," he said, "finally a big business in the West has come realize its own conscience. Some Western businesses thought that by making compromises with the Chinese communists' regime, they could do business as they wished. However, this is impossible because the Chinese government would not be satisfied."
In fact, Google first tried to play the fool's game. It did Beijing's work for it, keeping "embarrassing" facts off its China service, explaining in artless argle-bargle that "the benefits of increased access to information for people in China outweighed our discomfort in agreeing to censor some results." But some gratitude. Google says that beginning in September "highly sophisticated" hackers systematically stole certain company intellectual property, and 20 other financial, technology, media and chemical companies were similarly targeted.
The London Daily Telegraph reports that British intelligence agencies warned the British government three years ago that China was one of several nations trying to wriggle through firewalls guarding sensitive British government databases. Last year, the Telegraph revealed, researchers in Toronto discovered a large cyber-espionage network called GhostNet which had prowled the Internet databases of embassies and agencies of more than a hundred nations, looking for sensitive information. A month later, hackers believed to be working for the Beijing government broke into Pentagon computers and filched details of the new Joint Strike Fighter.
Pulling the chain of Chinese officials is not difficult. Computers at the French embassy in Beijing were hacked last month after President Nicolas Sarkozy entertained the Dalai Lama in Paris, according the exiled leader of Tibet the high honor that American presidents have sometimes been too timid to do. But after the Chinese objected to the French objecting to the theft of its intellectual property, France apologized for having noticed. Curley and his brother stooges would have given someone a poke in the eye.
Wesley Pruden is editor emeritus of The Washington Times.
Microsoft has admitted that its Internet Explorer was a weak link in the recent attacks on Google's systems that originated in China.
The firm said in a blog post on Thursday that a vulnerability in the browser could allow hackers to remotely run programs on infected machines.
Following the attack, Google threatened to end its operations in China.
Microsoft has released preliminary guidance to mitigate the problem and is working on a formal software update.
So far, Microsoft "has not seen widespread customer impact, rather only targeted and limited attacks exploiting Internet Explorer 6".
"Based upon our investigations, we have determined that Internet Explorer was one of the vectors used in targeted and sophisticated attacks against Google and possibly other corporate networks," said Microsoft's director of security response Mike Reavey in the post.
'Unfortunate'
Security firm McAfee told news agency AFP that the attacks on Google, which targeted Chinese human rights activists worldwide, showed a level of sophistication above that of typical, isolated cyber criminal efforts.
McAfee's vice-president of threat research Dmitri Alperovitch told AFP that although the firm had "no proof that the Chinese are behind this particular attack, I think there are indications though that a nation-state is behind it".
The recent spate of attacks was alleged to have hit more than 30 companies including Google and Adobe, but security firms have since said that such invasions are routine.
Mr Reavey echoed this in the post.
"Unfortunately cyber crime and cyber attacks are daily occurrences in the online world. Obviously, it is unfortunate that our product is being used in the pursuit of criminal activity. We will continue to work with Google, industry leaders and the appropriate authorities to investigate this situation."